Hegseth's meeting of Generals….

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94chem
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The message from Hegseth sounded good. The problem is that he is a philandering, stumbling drunk who paid hush money to a stripper and was fast and loose with the finances while serving veterans, and all of these generals know it. They can't be loving his lecture on integrity and decorum.
94chem,
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jeremy
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Pumpkinhead said:

FriendlyAg said:

I think that's probably the point. Make some of them quit or not feel welcomed


If you are a career military person you can also just wait it out a few years until Trump and Hegseth are gone. Administrations come and go.


Doesn't sound like the fat pos leaders that want to wait it out are going to enjoy their time.

Those who want to do their job with excellence are going to start liking their job again!
jeremy
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tejas_ayanem said:

some of us are able to call out the BS on both sides, you should try taking off your maga pom poms


As a Marine, if I was in for the last 10 years my moral would have been crap.

Hearing this speech would have turned things around with me and my fellow Marines that were good Marines.

It was worth every penny.
sanangelo
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LMCane said:



live coverage of the meeting- Hegseth is a beast!

Hegseth is impressive. Did we memorize the entire speech?
San Angelo LIVE!
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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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For full effect, post a picture of you wearing your cammo bondage hood ("gimp mask").

Got any pictures with animal-inspired masks?

I'd bet you can strut with authority.

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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94chem said:

The message from Hegseth sounded good. The problem is that he is a philandering, stumbling drunk who paid hush money to a stripper and was fast and loose with the finances while serving veterans, and all of these generals know it. They can't be loving his lecture on integrity and decorum.

Some of the best preachers are those that experienced hell themselves.. They tend to relate well with most of their congregation.
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94chem said:

The message from Hegseth sounded good. The problem is that he is a philandering, stumbling drunk who paid hush money to a stripper and was fast and loose with the finances while serving veterans, and all of these generals know it. They can't be loving his lecture on integrity and decorum.


Are you saying that there are no stumbling drunks in leadership positions in the US military? Theres a thread here on Texags supporting many Aggies who are in AA as they try to get over that addiction.
LMCane
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pollo hermanos said:

bobbranco said:

On the other hand maybe we could maintain the status quo and continue with the wussification of America.

No reason to do that. I would love to hear the thoughts of senior military folks. Most of us on this thread don't really know what the hell we're talking about. Let's get the thoughts of folks that we're getting talked to. Would be fascinating to hear.

I was a Captain (resigned year before making Major) and love everything Hegseth said.

some of the things Trump talked about were frankly ridiculous, but that is Trump being Trump.
agAngeldad
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The military is responsible for providing protection to the country and citizens of the USA. They should be in shape physically and mentally to carry out the mission. Playing silly games to play political games makes us look weak.
HumbleAg04
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Look forward to this same philosophy being applied to law enforcement nationwide….

Mr. Awesome Time
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While no more fatties in the military is long overdue, Hegseth is neither inspiring nor intimidating in the slightest. Dude comes off like a huge p*ssy honestly.
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Mr. Awesome Time said:

While no more fatties in the military is long overdue, Hegseth is neither inspiring nor intimidating in the slightest. Dude comes off like a huge p*ssy honestly.

Like, that's just your opinion, bro.

It's nice to have a clear conservative thinker and communicator in the SecDef role.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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AgsMyDude
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Why are libs online telling me I, personally, should be scared by what happened at Quantico?
74OA
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Sorry, but worth a laugh: Trump and Hegseth bombed so badly the generals are subsequently calling them Fat Man and Little Boy.
RogerFurlong
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74OA said:

Sorry, but worth a laugh: Trump and Hegseth bombed so badly the generals are subsequently calling them Fat Man and Little Boy.

That's great coming from generals that can't even leave Afghanistan without getting their subordinates killed.
LMCane
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HumbleAg04 said:

Look forward to this same philosophy being applied to law enforcement nationwide….



it really SHOULD be applied to firefighters and police officers and all law enforcement!

it is pathetic to see morbidly obese troops or police!

will25u
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Because of yesterday?

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Jock 07
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74OA said:

Sorry, but worth a laugh: Trump and Hegseth bombed so badly the generals are subsequently calling them Fat Man and Little Boy.


That probably sounded a lot more funny in your head, didn't it?
Captain Pablo
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lol. Look at the pathetic, squealing liberals on this thread

Have any of them actually addressed the content of the speeches? What they agree with and disagree with?

Hell no

Surprising? Not in the least
Teslag
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Captain Pablo said:

lol. Look at the pathetic, squealing liberals on this thread

Have any of them actually addressed the content of the speeches? What they agree with and disagree with?

Hell no

Surprising? Not in the least


No, not a single one. And there's a reason for that. Every single policy issue Hegseth mentioned makes us stronger. It makes us more effective and lethal. They know this, that's why the liberals and concerned moderates can only attack superficial issues with Hegseth and Trump on this.
Teslag
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74OA said:

Sorry, but worth a laugh: Trump and Hegseth bombed so badly the generals are subsequently calling them Fat Man and Little Boy.


Any general that has an issue with Hegseth's vision for the military is weak and will get soldiers killed and lose wars.
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Pumpkinhead said:

FriendlyAg said:

I think that's probably the point. Make some of them quit or not feel welcomed


If you are a career military person you can also just wait it out a few years until Trump and Hegseth are gone. Administrations come and go.

Rs will win the next two elections, Vance/Rubio or DeSantis will be President
titan
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Teslag said:

Captain Pablo said:

lol. Look at the pathetic, squealing liberals on this thread

Have any of them actually addressed the content of the speeches? What they agree with and disagree with?

Hell no

Surprising? Not in the least


No, not a single one. And there's a reason for that. Every single policy issue Hegseth mentioned makes us stronger. It makes us more effective and lethal. They know this, that's why the liberals and concerned moderates can only attack superficial issues with Hegseth and Trump on this.

Many of them may be politicized brass like Milley.
Spotted Ag
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What's funny and pathetic is all the wackaloon liberals with the talking point of "They said generals can't be fat but Trump is fat." Intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy 101. Our country would be a hell of a lot better without liberals.
74OA
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Jock 07 said:

74OA said:

Sorry, but worth a laugh: Trump and Hegseth bombed so badly the generals are subsequently calling them Fat Man and Little Boy.


That probably sounded a lot more funny in your head, didn't it?

Not my line, but it did make me laugh when I saw it.

Just thought folks might like to unclench a bit.......
maverick2076
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If so, good for him for having the courage to back his convictions in an honorable manner. If not, congratulations on a full and successful career. Either way, thanks to him for his service. Deciding to retire and hang up the boots is a difficult and intensely personal decision.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Queso1
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I private letter would have sufficed. But these days everyone is the main character.
I will no longer discuss politics with you. I reject your premises and world view. I am finished trying to compromise with you.
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maverick2076 said:

The most important thing he talked about was empowering leaders to enforce standards, make decisions, and function as leaders without the fear of reprisal for upholding a standard or being so afraid of a single mistake torpedoing their career that they fail to make a decision, take action, or uphold a standard.

Thanks for this.

What is interesting is that this is the exact opposite message many other departments in the US government are getting.

At the FBI and CIA, everyone's arse is on the line, for good reason. USAID, everyone has already been fired.

So some reassurance to the military was probably really, really helpful.
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Captain Pablo said:

lol. Look at the pathetic, squealing liberals on this thread

Have any of them actually addressed the content of the speeches? What they agree with and disagree with?

Hell no

Surprising? Not in the least

Liberals want zero accountability and want America to lose. They just want us for our tax dollars so they can buy votes and power.
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pollo hermanos said:

I would love to hear the thoughts of senior military folks. Most of us on this thread don't really know what the hell we're talking about. Let's get the thoughts of folks that we're getting talked to. Would be fascinating to hear.

As an O-5 with an O-6 board coming soon, all I could think about during the speech was how much I wish that this level of vocal support for commanders/NCOs and policy-level enforcement of standards was in place when I was in squadron command.

We've strayed too far from setting and holding high standards - and it shows in how our troops carry themselves in and out of uniform. Not long ago, you'd likely be thrown under the bus by your leadership if you caught any flak from subordinates for being hard on beard waivers, uniform compliance, and the like. My squadron was an oasis of exceeding standards in my wing without being draconian - morale was high and even our climate assessments (typical anonymous annual venting session from the squadron) were glowing. Our unit culture was built around being solely focused on merit in recognition/promotion, celebrating excellence as a lodestar for others to follow, and empowering Airmen with opportunities and the tools they needed to be the best at what they do. The formula isn't cosmic - and it seems that's what Hegseth wants across the force.

If we really think things are only going to get worse over the next few years with China, Russia, and Iran aligning, the Department's culture around standards need to change fast. Otherwise, we're looking at a June 1950 problem of preparedness across the force (read the beginning of "This Kind of War" by T.R. Fehrenbach if you want to see how bad U.S. forces perform when you relax standards and let the culture be defined by the mood of your troops with a threat looming).
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Mr. Awesome Time said:

While no more fatties in the military is long overdue, Hegseth is neither inspiring nor intimidating in the slightest. Dude comes off like a huge p*ssy honestly.

I thought there were always weight requirements in the military. Did they get rid of those? Or not enforce them? Or make them laxer?

Philmont Scout ranch has weight requirements. You should hear the grown men sob and cry over those requirements. "I'm 5"10" 275lb but I've got more muscle than about anyone else and I go up and down those mountain in my spare time, no problem.".

maverick2076
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Queso1 said:

I private letter would have sufficed. But these days everyone is the main character.


That message had to be delivered in person. If anything, it should have been a broader audience, with more commanders and senior NCOs present to look him in the eye and see that he is dead serious about this part, and to then check their email and see that the policies implementing this have already been signed and distributed. Other leaders have paid lip service to this idea, but it's a bad cliche that no one believed. But this time it came from the CinC, and the SECWAR, and they stood in front of every senior leader and said it in plain English. "We've got your back." It wasn't a bs mission statement, or a commander's vision, something that comes out as an email, a mandatory poster, or a card that you have to carry around in your pocket as an inspectable item. Delivering that message in person was worth every penny it cost and every second of effort needed to make it happen.

Sure, it could've not been televised. But now the whole formation has seen it, heard it, and should know how serious SECWAR is about it. That has real value. And if it hadn't been televised, the liberal media could've lied and mischaracterized everything he said much easier than they probably will.
GAC06
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There are weight requirements but the Marines seem to be the only ones that have strict ones or enforce them
94chem
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ABATTBQ87 said:

94chem said:

The message from Hegseth sounded good. The problem is that he is a philandering, stumbling drunk who paid hush money to a stripper and was fast and loose with the finances while serving veterans, and all of these generals know it. They can't be loving his lecture on integrity and decorum.


Are you saying that there are no stumbling drunks in leadership positions in the US military? Theres a thread here on Texags supporting many Aggies who are in AA as they try to get over that addiction.


Yeah, people change. But read about this guy over the last 20 years. There is nothing to suggest that he is trustworthy or competent. He even blind-sided the Trump transition team with his lies about his sexual assault settlement and his lies about his accuser. This happened in 2021. There is no evidence that he has changed. The Signal mess was just par for the course.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
 
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