Family legacy vs corporate greed........11 herbs and spices edition

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TexasAggie73
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I remember as a kid my dad going out and bringing back a big bucket of fried chicken with rolls, mash potatoes and gravy. Best eating ever. This was in the early 60's.
OldArmy71
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Lord, no, but it comes with the meal.
Buck Turgidson
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KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.
Apollo79
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Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.



Bad employees in a fast food restaurant u dont say$
infinity ag
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Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Found this fried chicken recipe last year and it is legit - my family raves about it and want me to make it all the time. Takes about 2 hours to make 12 legs. Time for dry brining, letting it sit with the spices and then post dredging too. But worth it.

https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-crispy-juicy-fried-chicken-that-s-better-than-kfc-242602

These are the spices:

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infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


Nah. Subway is still really good actually - but I will admit it is location dependent.

I've seen some bad locations run into the ground and they don't do well. Other ones do very well and still make a great sandwich. Seems to be very much related to the demographic of the neighborhood it is in.


Apollo79
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I prefer which which
Jenhon
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It sounds more like a recipe for garam masala or maybe even an Indian dessert.
ABattJudd
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How in the hell did we get this far in the thread without this being posted? I'm disappointed in all of you.

"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
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Quo Vadis? said:

I tell you guys what, KFC is elite here in the UAE. Actually having employees that give a damn make all the difference. The chicken is perfectly cooked and delivered hot and crispy.

Yep, if you want to taste what fast food used to taste like in the USA go to UAE, S. Korea, Japan and even some of the European countries. Employees there are GRATEFUL for the opportunity to make money so they follow policies to a T.
infinity ag
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


Nah. Subway is still really good actually - but I will admit it is location dependent.

I've seen some bad locations run into the ground and they don't do well. Other ones do very well and still make a great sandwich. Seems to be very much related to the demographic of the neighborhood it is in.





Hmm.
Maybe it is just the ones run by Indians that have gone to hell. The one near my house was bought by a Patel and it went bad and they closed down.

Maybe others are okay
Zombie Jon Snow
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infinity ag said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


Nah. Subway is still really good actually - but I will admit it is location dependent.

I've seen some bad locations run into the ground and they don't do well. Other ones do very well and still make a great sandwich. Seems to be very much related to the demographic of the neighborhood it is in.





Hmm.
Maybe it is just the ones run by Indians that have gone to hell. The one near my house was bought by a Patel and it went bad and they closed down.

Maybe others are okay


Yeah the one in Valley Ranch went downhill and that's a primarily Indian area.

The two I know in Carrollton are fine.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


Nah. Subway is still really good actually - but I will admit it is location dependent.

I've seen some bad locations run into the ground and they don't do well. Other ones do very well and still make a great sandwich. Seems to be very much related to the demographic of the neighborhood it is in.





You have to be kidding. Subway has been dog **** for as long as I can remember. Sure, when I was a teenager I thought it was so awesome, but as an adult with refined tastes, I put Subway at the bottom of the list of chain sandwich restaurants. It feels like decades since I've had subway or KFC.
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Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.



KFC, if prepared the way the Colonel intended, is pretty damn good chicken. The seasoning and the pressure cooker is the way to go. The problem today is what you just posted. Not to mention the pieces are so small they look like they came from a morning dove. They leave the chicken sitting under a heat lamp so it is gooey and soggy by the time it is served. The corporate ruination of a once fine American product began back when PepsiCo bought them, not just last week .

Once upon a time their gravy was also top notch. I think they put the spices in that too. Now it is pretty generic.
samurai_science
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Todays KFC is not the KFC of old, let it die.

I remember going to the old KFC in Georgetown Tx, and they had a buffet. It was glorious.
Hank the Grifter
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ABattJudd said:

How in the hell did we get this far in the thread without this being posted? I'm disappointed in all of you.




It was subtlety and very tastefully mentioned on page 1.
Hank the Grifter
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Modern fast food is a disgusting shell of what it used to be.

Chipotle's "claim to fame" or "Hallmark" is that they prep their food fresh in the store. That's a LOW bar to clear. But what it means is that everything else at every other store is trucked in prepared, frozen, and ready for the fryer or the microwave.

In the 70s French fry ingredients were potatoes, flour, beef tallow, and salt... Today? Even the oil has a laundry list of ingredients.

The Colonel's 11 herbs and spices are the LEAST of KFCs or fast food's as a whole problems


Spot on. And huge player in the obesity epidemic in this country. We are being poisoned by corporate food giants.
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Quote:

As for recipe reveals, I sure wish Pepsi would swallow their corporate pride and reverse engineer the Coke formula. They could call it 'Pepsi Sharp' or something like that and sell it alongside their 18-million flavor variations of Mountain Dew to those of us who groan when we hear the phrase "No Coke, Just Pepsi."

Pespi has had Coke's recipe for 100+ years. It's very interesting history.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Thunderstruck xx said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


Nah. Subway is still really good actually - but I will admit it is location dependent.

I've seen some bad locations run into the ground and they don't do well. Other ones do very well and still make a great sandwich. Seems to be very much related to the demographic of the neighborhood it is in.





You have to be kidding. Subway has been dog **** for as long as I can remember. Sure, when I was a teenager I thought it was so awesome, but as an adult with refined tastes, I put Subway at the bottom of the list of chain sandwich restaurants. It feels like decades since I've had subway or KFC.


sounds like you don't now how to make a good sub. since you can customize it how you want it's pretty much as good as any sub you would make at home.

now i like Jimmy Johns too and Jersey Mike's for a decent Philly but they aren't that much better than subway really. Pot Belly is ok too.

they are all just sandwich places though so let's be serious. you get what you get none of them are mind blowing. but any of them are better than a fast food burger really. KFC is what it is. I don't seek it out but occasionally my son wants to go there.

the campus i am at has 2 places to eat - subway or a pizza place - so I have subway at most once a week when I did not have anything to bring and don't have time to leave campus..


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Bill Miller fried chicken for the win.
Greater love hath no man than this....
Burdizzo
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rwtxag83 said:

Bill Miller fried chicken for the win.


The chicken is pretty much the only thing I will eat at Bill Miller. The BBQ kind of sucks.
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GAC06 said:

Bob Knights Liver said:

White pepper???


Are you surprised they use white pepper or that white pepper exists?

The colonel was the OG for inclusiveness.
rab79
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Brookshire Brothers for fried chicken, and try Simple Simons hot sandwich.
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Apollo79 said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.



Bad employees in a fast food restaurant u dont say$
fast food had good employees when the model was mostly high school kids working there to make money in 70s and early 80s. Once folks started acting like those jobs were careers, and parents stopped demanding that their kids work , the model failed.
Slicer97
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Burdizzo said:

HTownAg98 said:

MSG.


Well, I don't crave Chinese food fortnightly.


It's the fat and salt. When combined, it's chemically addictive. It's the reason people crave fried foods, especially the various forms of fried tater.
Slicer97
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1 tbsp plus 1 1/2 tsp?

Why not just say 1 1/2 tbsp like a normal person?
Zombie Jon Snow
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Slicer97 said:

1 tbsp plus 1 1/2 tsp?

Why not just say 1 1/2 tbsp like a normal person?

I didn't write it. But I agree.

Funny enough I read it as 1 tbsp + 1/2 tbsp which is the same thing so it worked out.
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doubledog said:

Some secret. My grandmother used that recipe. You don't think....


Colonel Sanders was your granddaddy.
txags92
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infinity ag said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

People eat KFC?


My wife doesn't let me bring KFC home because she says it is GMO chicken full of hormones and other crap.

She doesn't want an arm growing out of my forehead.

She probably prefers CFA with their 55 ingredient chicken sandwich?
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cecil77 said:

Quote:

As for recipe reveals, I sure wish Pepsi would swallow their corporate pride and reverse engineer the Coke formula. They could call it 'Pepsi Sharp' or something like that and sell it alongside their 18-million flavor variations of Mountain Dew to those of us who groan when we hear the phrase "No Coke, Just Pepsi."

Pespi has had Coke's recipe for 100+ years. It's very interesting history.

I got so tired of answering "No" to "Is Pepsi ok?" when I was in Oregon the week before last. Seemed like every place we ate was Pepsi only, though a few had Dr Pepper.
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txags92 said:

cecil77 said:

Quote:

As for recipe reveals, I sure wish Pepsi would swallow their corporate pride and reverse engineer the Coke formula. They could call it 'Pepsi Sharp' or something like that and sell it alongside their 18-million flavor variations of Mountain Dew to those of us who groan when we hear the phrase "No Coke, Just Pepsi."

Pespi has had Coke's recipe for 100+ years. It's very interesting history.

I got so tired of answering "No" to "Is Pepsi ok?" when I was in Oregon the week before last. Seemed like every place we ate was Pepsi only, though a few had Dr Pepper.


prefer Pepsi products. and despise dr. pepper. to each his own.

my ranking - so i don't care if they have pepsi or coke i can get one of my top two

diet pepsi
coke zero
diet coke
coke
pepsi
RC cola
diet RC
----------------------
everything else (pass)
dr. pepper (vomit)

Ryan the Temp
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Slicer97 said:

1 tbsp plus 1 1/2 tsp?

Why not just say 1 1/2 tbsp like a normal person?

Because 1/2 TBS is not a common measuring unit and you'd be hard pressed to find a 1/2 TBS measure in most kitchens.
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infinity ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

KFC original recipe, when made properly by competent staff, is fantastic. The problem most critics today have stems from the crappy employees at too many KFC locations in the US.


Have they devolved into an Indian run franchise?

Like what happened to Subway.

Subway used to be good until the Patels began to take over the franchises. Then quality fell as they started to skimp on veggies and meet and get grumpy when asked to put on some more. Rude to customers. Last time I visited a Subway was 15 years ago. I prefer other places like Jersey Mike and Potbelly which are American run.

Now you don't hear about Subway anymore, another good restaurant destroyed by foreign influence.


I like Jerseyy Mike's, but I can take the family to Saltgrass for the same cost...
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

txags92 said:

cecil77 said:

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As for recipe reveals, I sure wish Pepsi would swallow their corporate pride and reverse engineer the Coke formula. They could call it 'Pepsi Sharp' or something like that and sell it alongside their 18-million flavor variations of Mountain Dew to those of us who groan when we hear the phrase "No Coke, Just Pepsi."

Pespi has had Coke's recipe for 100+ years. It's very interesting history.

I got so tired of answering "No" to "Is Pepsi ok?" when I was in Oregon the week before last. Seemed like every place we ate was Pepsi only, though a few had Dr Pepper.


prefer Pepsi products. and despise dr. pepper. to each his own.

my ranking - so i don't care if they have pepsi or coke i can get one of my top two

diet pepsi
coke zero
diet coke
coke
pepsi
RC cola
diet RC
----------------------
everything else (pass)
dr. pepper (vomit)



I would put everything on your list including Dr P, Dr P Zero, and Diet Dr P ahead of Diet Pepsi. Diet Pepsi is literally the worst soft drink on the planet. I can stomach Pepsi from time to time if I absolutely have to, but I would drink Mt Dew (which is horrible) before I would pay anybody for Diet Pepsi.
 
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