Faulkner Focus 'round table' this morning....

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pdc093
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Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....
Texas 8&4
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

One is true, one is not
JWinTX
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

Calling someone a socialist is just a smidge different than calling someone a fascist/Nazi/Hitler...if we start calling them Communists/Stalin maybe he would have a point that matters.
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Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....


ok, but the right is not killing people. HTH
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

It is the left that labels itself socialists.
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JWinTX said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

Calling someone a socialist is just a smidge different than calling someone a fascist/Nazi/Hitler...if we start calling them Communists/Stalin maybe he would have a point that matters.

It's even better than that. They admit being associated with Socialists is the same as being called a Nazi... Think of the implications of that statement. They are actively calling for Socialism and equate that to being a Nazi.
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They are communists. And ALL the violence is coming from the left.
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doubledog said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

It is the left that labels itself socialists.


Exactly. They are about to elect a full blown commie to the largest city in the US.

Bernie might very well have won the Prez nom twice if not for the Dem party. He and AOC are the leaders of the Dem party now!
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

Harris should have condemned Fascism and Nazis and then asked Murphy to condemn socialism and state unequivocably that capitalism is the best economic system on the planet. I bet he would choke on his tongue before he would do that.

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Texas 8&4 said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

One is true, one is not


I'm sorry the socialist terrorist running for Mayor in New York? High level Democrats jumping on board there why is that all of a sudden a bad word? Bernie Sanders and AOC are pushing it constantly.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
Pookers
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Stop watching fox
oh no
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they are actually socialists. Momdami, Bernie, etc. are proud of it and they're getting endorsements from across the democrat party. the most popular democrats are openly socialist. but communism is not far off from socialism- it's a precursor for communism, and the democrats are using all the marxist tactics in the book to get there.


...whereas the fascist accusations towards the right are just down right wrong. Both Mussolini and Hitler's fascist parties were also socialist. They were just more nationalist socialist instead of leftist globalist socialist. Right wing wants smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes--- the opposite of socialism. the fascist accusations are only to motivate their low IQ useful idiots in the masses and antifa footsoldiers to get to work (another Marxist tactic). Because nazi fascists killed 6 million jews and our grandfathers went to europe to kill them, calling your political opposition nazi fascists makes it ok to kill us. they're doing that on purpose. the right is not rounding up and attacking jews or LEGAL immigrants or minorities. the right has no concentration camps. ICE agents are not SS. the right is not invading Poland. We are not like Hitler's fascist party at all. Only commonality is pride in our country instead of being ashamed of it so they equate nationalism to fascism.
AGinHI
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pdc093 said:

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

TheEternalOptimist
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JWinTX said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

Calling someone a socialist is just a smidge different than calling someone a fascist/Nazi/Hitler...if we start calling them Communists/Stalin maybe he would have a point that matters.

I can call them Communists when they act like Communists.

AOC and Sanders are Communists. By policy advocation and their alignment with DSA (who merged with American Communists).

It's not the same thing to call them Communists as it is to call people Hitler/Nazi. Why? Because the trauma of World War 2 and the Holocaust is pushed and pushed and pushed on the populace in the education system while the horrors of the 100 million people killed by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chin Minh, Castro, Ceacescue, Guvera, Chavez, and Maduro under the banner of Communism is IGNORED or EVEN CELEBRATED.
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oh no said:

they are actually socialists. Momdami, Bernie, etc. are proud of it and they're getting endorsements from across the democrat party. the most popular democrats are openly socialist. but communism is not far off from socialism- it's a precursor for communism, and the democrats are using all the marxist tactics in the book to get there.


...whereas the fascist accusations towards the right are just down right wrong. Both Mussolini and Hitler's fascist parties were also socialist. They were just more nationalist socialist instead of leftist globalist socialist. Right wing wants smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes--- the opposite of socialism. the fascist accusations are only to motivate their low IQ useful idiots in the masses and antifa footsoldiers to get to work (another Marxist tactic). Because nazi fascists killed 6 million jews and our grandfathers went to europe to kill them, calling your political opposition nazi fascists makes it ok to kill us. they're doing that on purpose. the right is not rounding up and attacking jews or LEGAL immigrants or minorities. the right has no concentration camps. ICE agents are not SS. the right is not invading Poland. We are not like Hitler's fascist party at all. Only commonality is pride in our country instead of being ashamed of it so they equate nationalism to fascism.

Correct. As said on faculty thread, peculiarly, the left version of tyranny is given a complete mulligan, even platformed, while almost no real in-office examples exist on the right and fascism some super boogie-man. Why both are not condemned and kept on the sides is a mystery. Free Enterprise is the enemy of both, so is individual liberty.
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

If the shoe fits ...
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JWinTX said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

Calling someone a socialist is just a smidge different than calling someone a fascist/Nazi/Hitler...if we start calling them Communists/Stalin maybe he would have a point that matters.


Fascist, leftist, socialist…it's all the same
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Whataboutism makes you look stupid..
Silent For Too Long
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In defense of the use of political violence I've seen college educated people quote "Chairman Mao."

I'm not even joking.

You don't see anyone on the right proudly wearing equivalents the Che shirts.

The right might have their village idiots and extremists, but at least we keep ours in check.
A is A
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There's no such thing as hate speech
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Fightin_Aggie
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....


They call themselves communists and socialists and they are

The right does not call themselves Nazis, which actually stood for the national socialist party


These are not comparable
Fightin_Aggie
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A is A said:

There's no such thing as hate speech


Sure there is. That does not make it illegal

The correct solution for hate speech is more speech
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Silent For Too Long said:

In defense of the use of political violence I've seen college educated people quote "Chairman Mao."

I'm not even joking.

You don't see anyone on the right proudly wearing equivalents the Che shirts.

The right might have their village idiots and extremists, but at least we keep ours in check.

That's exactly what was saying on faculty perception thread-- there is this incredible and inexplicable giving a pass to Marxism that does'n exist for fascism. They have made a boogie-man of one side while entirely exempting the other. Both are antithetical to the values of Independence Day.
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titan said:

That's exactly what was saying on faculty perception thread-- there is this incredible and inexplicable giving a pass to Marxism that does'n exist for fascism. They have made a boogie-man of one side while entirely exempting the other. Both are antithetical to the values of Independence Day.

It's because they honestly believe that Marxism works, it just has not been implemented/executed correctly. This is why it is increasingly difficult to have conversations in good faith because they believe that their Marxism ideas will work, if only they are implemented correctly (regardless of how awful the consequences have been whenever it is implemented throughout history).
pdc093
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doubledog said:

pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

It is the left that labels itself socialists.

Harris reminded him of the 'Democrat Socialist Party'....it's a thing.
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....


The fact that the leaders of their party calls themselves socialists gives the label merit. Bernie, AOC, all of the squad, the soon to be mayor of New York. Murphy can GFH
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pdc093
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Pookers said:

Stop watching fox

Why?
JWinTX
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TexasAggiesWin said:

titan said:

That's exactly what was saying on faculty perception thread-- there is this incredible and inexplicable giving a pass to Marxism that does'n exist for fascism. They have made a boogie-man of one side while entirely exempting the other. Both are antithetical to the values of Independence Day.

It's because they honestly believe that Marxism works, it just has not been implemented/executed correctly. This is why it is increasingly difficult to have conversations in good faith because they believe that their Marxism ideas will work, if only they are implemented correctly (regardless of how awful the consequences have been whenever it is implemented throughout history).


It really is amazing to have so many examples of communism killing and jailing its own people and yet the overwhelming educator/useful idiot view is that "it just hasn't been done right yet."" They're always teachers and media members and entertainers who don't like competition. They don't want to achieve. They want equal outcome, not realizing that equal work and equal effort are never happening in almost every industry of service. And this isn't even talking a word about removing God and faith from their society.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

titan said:

That's exactly what was saying on faculty perception thread-- there is this incredible and inexplicable giving a pass to Marxism that does'n exist for fascism. They have made a boogie-man of one side while entirely exempting the other. Both are antithetical to the values of Independence Day.

It's because they honestly believe that Marxism works, it just has not been implemented/executed correctly. This is why it is increasingly difficult to have conversations in good faith because they believe that their Marxism ideas will work, if only they are implemented correctly (regardless of how awful the consequences have been whenever it is implemented throughout history).

Another factor as said on that perceptions post is their view is never challenged. It doesn't even have to debate its suppose boogie-man opposite. It (socialism / communism) is given carte-blance to attack capitalism and democracy without even having to confront its strong counter-argument.The suppression is one sided in favor of Leftism.
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There seems to also be a big difference in who is calling who a fascist vs socialist. Dem politicians, MSM/ corporate news people, celebrities, and all the social media mobs aren't just saying Trump is fascist or Ted Cruz is fascist.. they have been calling all of us - half of the entire citizenry and all +77 million Americans who didn't vote for their regime- "fascists". Biden rant with red background comes to mind. In reality, the people they are vilifying are just what's left of normalcy. The normies they call fascists are basically democrats from the 1990s.

.. whereas the right, that does not control media or social media, calls Dem political leaders and their pravda media arm socialists, many of which call themselves that. Many of the people who vote for them are entirely brainwashed with TDS, can't see that this is not their father's democrat party, or single issue (baby killing, climate crisis) crazies. And look, tax money recipients vs tax payers - the government-dependent welfare addicted people - of course they should want to vote for socialism: they want free stuff. Few of the people voting for the socialist regime are actual socialists or really realize what they're voting for.
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The Democrats are running a self described socialist for mayor of the largest city in the USA. They own it.
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pdc093 said:

Harris: The 'hate speech' coming from the left calling conservatives fascists and nazis....

Patrick Murphy: Well, the right-wing calls us socialists, so.....

The socialists call themselves socialists.
Harris left out the Democratic Party leadership has called conservatives
  • an existential threat to democracy
  • deplorable
  • racists
  • President Biden told donors in a private call that the media isn't doing enough to scrutinize Trump and that it was "time to put Trump in the bulls-eye.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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We need to come together and that can only happen when the side that continues to get slapped around will not have it my longer.

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The right doesn't just call us socialists, they call us "unhumans"
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The right doesn't just call us socialists, they call us "unhumans"


When your side locks people up for January 6th without due process, yet allow a months worth of looting and burning to take place, and nothing happens to those people. When your side tried to kill a president twice, when your side tried to kill a congressman, when your side actually did murder a God fearing man who was willing to talk to both sides of the aisle. Yeah... your side gets to be labeled "unhuman."
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
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