The author of this "true data" concedes in the article that the data is inherently flawed. I already pointed out above that he only included 1 of the Trans mass shooters and didn't include BLM riot related deaths. That is a lot of bodies conveniently missing….

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It doesn't matter if it's their next door neighbor, rightists want those of us with other viewpoints gone.

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You are desperately making up new words like "rightists" and citing anonymous internet trolls.

What we see on the left is a mainstream concerted effort to label those on the right as dangerous threats and unsafe extremists. ONLY the left has trigger warnings and safe space mandates. ONLY the left protests by standing in front of vehicles. ONLY the left thinks trans have no advantage in women's sports. The 2 sides are very different in many ways that you will never be capable of acknowledging.

Good luck trying to get your side to adopt the term "rightist". Its gonna flop worse than when yall tried "LatinX".

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TA-OP said:

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It doesn't matter if it's their next door neighbor, rightists want those of us with other viewpoints gone.

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You are desperately making up new words like "rightists" and citing anonymous internet trolls.

What we see on the left is a mainstream concerted effort to label those on the right as dangerous threats and unsafe extremists. ONLY the left has trigger warnings and safe space mandates. ONLY the left protests by standing in front of vehicles. ONLY the left thinks trans have no advantage in women's sports. The 2 sides are very different in many ways that you will never be capable of acknowledging.

Good luck trying to get your side to adopt the term "rightist". Its gonna flop worse than when yall tried "LatinX".

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They're having a really hard time with how left they've gone.

They've gone woke and think you can't go too woke. **insert kamala woke interview**

They simply don't understand that God gave us rules and he defined how to behave. They're godless or worse

Yep. Schools and businesses have gone as far as compelling people to act a certain way in order to prove they are safe. Its like the Seinfeld episode of "where's your ribbon!", except its not a sitcom. Its real life now and its rainbow flare and pronouns you need to adopt, or you are considered "unsafe".

The left is incapable of acknowledging they have gone too far, even when presented with direct proof.

This is what they actually believe and preach.


If youre not "woke" enough to their standards they will come after you

Is there any wonder how this term completely ****ing died but those acting on it still remain active?

Yeah, **** them. This is a war we must win and we will win. There can only be one winner. The hateful, perverted, violent Democrats must be eradicated.

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I'm honestly trying to figure out how and why you guys and gals think that all political violence right now is coming from the "left". Like ya'll are ready to go to war and kill all the liberals.

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Do you need glasses? Do you have cognitive issues? What in the blue **** are you talking about?

The violence IS all coming from the left. We're not advocating violence against liberals, we're decrying violence from liberals against normal Americans.

It is ALL coming from your side. Stop it.

Ok so how many of those would you say that there were?

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Democrats must be eradicated.

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Hey! Thanks for proving my point in another thread!

Ellis Wyatt said:

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The violence IS all coming from the left. We're not advocating violence against liberals, we're decrying violence from liberals against normal Americans.

It is ALL coming from your side. Stop it.

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LOL! Just a few posts after this one of "your team" called for eradicating Democrats. Eradicating. Sound like promoting violence against liberals. I eagerly await your condemnation of this language. See how stupid that sounds? You're not responsible for someone else's words any effing more than I am.

It’s been 4 days since Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

No riots.
No cities burned.

Conservatives mourn
The Left destroys

This is a reflection of what Charlie stood for:

Love over hate.
Faith over fear.

The future of 🇺🇸 looks bright if these values become popular again.

— Patrick Bet-David (@patrickbetdavid) September 14, 2025

From his bio:

Piker's content has been identified as a progressive, leftist, and socialist. He has advocated in favor of workplace democracy, universal health care, LGBTQ+ rights, anti-Zionism, and gun control. Andrew Marantz of The New Yorker describes Piker as anti-Trump but "hardly a loyal Democrat". Instead, Marantz classified Piker as an "old-school leftist", critical of the "American empire". In an interview with GQ magazine, Piker stated that his goal was to push the Democratic Party to be more progressive.

94DCAg said:

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TAMUallen-

I assume you are college educated. You know that to not be an absolute by a long shot. Saying stuff like that will get people killed. Snap out of it.

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The proportional number of mass shootings committed by trans identified individuals and the manifestos they write makes it clear that this population is a far greater threat than any other demographic. Among the small numbers of non-gang related spree shooters, even on trans identified spree shooter would be an over representation but considered and anomaly. The number of trans identified spree shooters means that this is a category of individual that is a danger that needs to be recognized as a special threat. The mental instability, reinforced victim mentality, sense of entitlement, and rage at society for not accepting their deviant behavior is a lethal combination. Treating them like they are not a significantly different threat level is like ignoring the difference in mortality rates between hantavirus and the seasonal flu.

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How come every time a liberal does something terrible, the so called "moderates" show up spewing the "both sides" narrative, while wagging their fingers at conservatives about "toning down the rhetoric"? They always seem more worried about the conservatives' possible reaction than the lefts actual actions. I don't think moderates would annoy me so much if they actually held the left to some type of standard(they don't). They also never acknowledge that the left commits way more atrocities than the right.

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It is a defense mechanism for their delicate political sensibilities.

At the same time, the "both sides" canard gives a slap on the wrist to the perpetrator of violence and yet is also a soothing balm for an individual's feelings of guilt that they supported causes that created fertile grounds for something horrible.

If someone constructed an honest ledger of body count from political violence, the left would own that score board, easily.

Infuriates me when I hear this from conservatives. I think we've been so driven by fear of offending the left that we always deflect to "we'll both sides are just as bad as each other." But it's not even close. One side stumbles and bumbles through things and certainly doesn't have enough courage. But the other side is pure evil.
They've proven this by literally murdering people who they disagree with and then mocking them in their death.
There's nothing on the other side that even remotely compares to that.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They believe it makes them appear smarter and above the fray.

They're wrong. It exposes them as ignorant and/or tolerant of the violence. I have some family like this. It's maddening that the J6 committee was "important and to be respected," but Charlie Kirk didn't deserve this "even though I didn't agree with him on everything."

He didn't deserve it. Period. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Speech does not warrant murder. No caveat needed.

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A lot of the responses I've seen online/Facebook start with, "I'm sorry for his wife and kids, but…"

Exactly like the "I'm not racist, but…."

You're not really sorry for his family, and you're a racist. Same deal.

I'm learning alot about some people last few days. And it makes me sad.

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Trying to qualify their reaction by those statements like "Even though I hated what he stood for he didn't deserve to die" is reprehensible. Have some humanity above all else.

Even after last week, the left is still trying to intimidate conservatives at their homes.

To the “Tolerant Left” who spent their day trying to intimidate us in the house where we have three young children:

We will not back down.

We will not cower in fear.

We will double down.

Always, For Charlie. pic.twitter.com/zPc6jIRf1A

— Katie Miller (@KatieMiller) September 14, 2025

Aust Ag said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They believe it makes them appear smarter and above the fray.

They're wrong. It exposes them as ignorant and/or tolerant of the violence. I have some family like this. It's maddening that the J6 committee was "important and to be respected," but Charlie Kirk didn't deserve this "even though I didn't agree with him on everything."

He didn't deserve it. Period. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Speech does not warrant murder. No caveat needed.

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A lot of the responses I've seen online/Facebook start with, "I'm sorry for his wife and kids, but…"

Exactly like the "I'm not racist, but…."

You're not really sorry for his family, and you're a racist. Same deal.

I'm learning alot about some people last few days. And it makes me sad.

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I'm learning nothing about these people I didn't already know. Covid and their willingness to want to throw half the country into reeducation camps showed me that. Never forget.

"Both sides", huh? Who's been pulling the f%ckIng trigger for the past year???

The Charlie Kirk tribute at the Kennedy Center.

What you see:

People dressed up, waiting in line patiently, showing grace and respect.

What you don't see:

Rioting, looting, yelling, violence.pic.twitter.com/7OoROQFlA1

— John LeFevre (@JohnLeFevre) September 14, 2025

94DCAg said:

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I'm honestly trying to figure out how and why you guys and gals think that all political violence right now is coming from the "left". Like ya'll are ready to go to war and kill all the liberals. So you want to kill me or neighbor down the street?

Some on here have listed "mean" things folks have said about Trump and the right-- e.g., facist, hilter, racist, etc. I get it, no one likes to be called those things.

But, the left get called just as many and sometimes the same things by the right. Often by Trump himself. To not even nod to that is terrifying as it shows a blind rage to a degree that no other facts penetrate.

You dismiss the Minnesota legislator who was killed because she wasn't personally vilified like Kirk? Or because the shooter was mad at Waltz? Just trying to figure this out. It makes zero sense to me.

Do ya'll really want to start a war with maybe 30% of your fellow aggie fans at the games on Saturday?

I used to post a lot on TexAgs 25+ years ago. Life, kids, job, other things got in the way. I no longer pay premium--so I don't know if the premium boards are so "let's do away with all the liberals".

Following 2016, I'd come and lurk here to try and figure out was the very conservative, pro-Trump people think. Ya'll have me gobsmacked and downright sad.

Is this your venting page or would ya'll really say all this to me and others at a tail gate?

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Words aren't violence. Violence is violence. One side has an ideology that has advocated it as a fundamental means for 170 years.

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94DCAg said:

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I'm honestly trying to figure out how and why you guys and gals think that all political violence right now is coming from the "left". Like ya'll are ready to go to war and kill all the liberals. So you want to kill me or neighbor down the street?

Some on here have listed "mean" things folks have said about Trump and the right-- e.g., facist, hilter, racist, etc. I get it, no one likes to be called those things.

But, the left get called just as many and sometimes the same things by the right. Often by Trump himself. To not even nod to that is terrifying as it shows a blind rage to a degree that no other facts penetrate.

You dismiss the Minnesota legislator who was killed because she wasn't personally vilified like Kirk? Or because the shooter was mad at Waltz? Just trying to figure this out. It makes zero sense to me.

Do ya'll really want to start a war with maybe 30% of your fellow aggie fans at the games on Saturday?

I used to post a lot on TexAgs 25+ years ago. Life, kids, job, other things got in the way. I no longer pay premium--so I don't know if the premium boards are so "let's do away with all the liberals".

Following 2016, I'd come and lurk here to try and figure out was the very conservative, pro-Trump people think. Ya'll have me gobsmacked and downright sad.

Is this your venting page or would ya'll really say all this to me and others at a tail gate?

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Words aren't violence. Violence is violence. One side has an ideology that has advocated it as a fundamental means for 170 years.

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Which brings to mind the other big distinction. Its one side in particular whose political party leadership and press actively stokes violent notions and imagery, knowing how it will be taken, and then even rewards it with bail paid (Kamala) after the fact.

Some of the hot right wing talk heard is more about dealing with politicians and press doing this and the Left has its brand of that. Controversial as it may be, judge that a different category. Ruling class are accountable to their kingdom. The Left hatred extends to non officials and people. The whole coercion was extended through all of society and they wanted even more. There is a block of the right that pushes against coercion and censorship by their own. There doesn't seem to be one on the Left.

I'm getting into this thread late, but the reason this happens is entirely to protect themselves from having any moment of self reflection that could make them uncomfortable. Nobody wants to blame themselves. Not only that, but it avoids potentially hard conversations with other ideological fellow travelers. Many people build their personal, social, and professional lives around like-minded people, and divergence could mean ostracization.

Nobody wants accountability.

94DCAg said:

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I'm honestly trying to figure out how and why you guys and gals think that all political violence right now is coming from the "left". Like ya'll are ready to go to war and kill all the liberals. So you want to kill me or neighbor down the street?

Some on here have listed "mean" things folks have said about Trump and the right-- e.g., facist, hilter, racist, etc. I get it, no one likes to be called those things.

But, the left get called just as many and sometimes the same things by the right. Often by Trump himself. To not even nod to that is terrifying as it shows a blind rage to a degree that no other facts penetrate.

You dismiss the Minnesota legislator who was killed because she wasn't personally vilified like Kirk? Or because the shooter was mad at Waltz? Just trying to figure this out. It makes zero sense to me.

Do ya'll really want to start a war with maybe 30% of your fellow aggie fans at the games on Saturday?

I used to post a lot on TexAgs 25+ years ago. Life, kids, job, other things got in the way. I no longer pay premium--so I don't know if the premium boards are so "let's do away with all the liberals".

Following 2016, I'd come and lurk here to try and figure out was the very conservative, pro-Trump people think. Ya'll have me gobsmacked and downright sad.

Is this your venting page or would ya'll really say all this to me and others at a tail gate?

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I wouldn't discuss politics at a tailgate. But as a liberal I'm confident you would make your positions known immediately. Libs are like Vegans, Lawyers, and Cross Fitters. They can't help but tell you what the do so they can smugly look down on you.

So now I wouldn't say anything to you at all tailgate, because I really don't have any interest in talking to liberals.

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No one wants to kill liberals. How on earth did you come to that conclusion.

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Because Liberals are the most violent and intolerant people on the planet. They accuse the others side of what they themselves are doing.

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94DCAg said:

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I'm honestly trying to figure out how and why you guys and gals think that all political violence right now is coming from the "left". Like ya'll are ready to go to war and kill all the liberals. So you want to kill me or neighbor down the street?

Some on here have listed "mean" things folks have said about Trump and the right-- e.g., facist, hilter, racist, etc. I get it, no one likes to be called those things.

But, the left get called just as many and sometimes the same things by the right. Often by Trump himself. To not even nod to that is terrifying as it shows a blind rage to a degree that no other facts penetrate.

You dismiss the Minnesota legislator who was killed because she wasn't personally vilified like Kirk? Or because the shooter was mad at Waltz? Just trying to figure this out. It makes zero sense to me.

Do ya'll really want to start a war with maybe 30% of your fellow aggie fans at the games on Saturday?

I used to post a lot on TexAgs 25+ years ago. Life, kids, job, other things got in the way. I no longer pay premium--so I don't know if the premium boards are so "let's do away with all the liberals".

Following 2016, I'd come and lurk here to try and figure out was the very conservative, pro-Trump people think. Ya'll have me gobsmacked and downright sad.

Is this your venting page or would ya'll really say all this to me and others at a tail gate?

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I think you've summed it up nicely. Anyone with a differing opinion is labeled leftist like it's some radical word. It's only "radical" because years of conservative media brain washing. It started with radical Islamic terrorist to associate "radical" with evil. Then it was the radical left… now they've convinced the rightists that just left is evil. It doesn't matter if it's their next door neighbor, rightists want those of us with other viewpoints gone.

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He hasn't summed up anything but his complete lack of reading comprehension.

The quotes I put above are the LEFT vilifying the right and telling their supports to get in our faces and confront and punch us. They are actually encouraging violence against the right. These are elected politicians, not some left wing blogger or YouTuber, not some rando on Twitter/X, but elected politicians and the MSN is giving them the medium to repeat these things.

The MSM prints more lies about Trump and the right than at any time in history. They call use Hitler and Fascists and what does everyone want to do to Hitler? Oh, remove him from the population.

Is it really that hard to see that some crazy person is going to convince themselves it's OK to kill people on the right. Politicians on their side are actively encouraging it.

I just love how democrats keep bringing up the MN legislator, also shot by a leftist.

It’s hilarious that Dems’ response to the Leftist assassination of Charlie Kirk is to point out that Dem politicians also get attacked by Leftists. https://t.co/jh1boCmoP0

— Coddled Affluent Professional (@feelsdesperate) September 15, 2025

And it's not a fringe element that is celebrating his assassination, it's something like 15% of the country. All hardcore Democrats; their base.

So just a small fringe. . . pic.twitter.com/FjFfnHJp8w

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) September 15, 2025

Just so we’re clear. pic.twitter.com/hMb7c9HP88

— Jamie Kennedy (@JamieKennedy) September 14, 2025

As it is written, 'you will know them by their fruits.'