How come every time a liberal does something terrible, the so called "moderates" show up spewing the "both sides" narrative, while wagging their fingers at conservatives about "toning down the rhetoric"? They always seem more worried about the conservatives' possible reaction than the lefts actual actions. I don't think moderates would annoy me so much if they actually held the left to some type of standard(they don't). They also never acknowledge that the left commits way more atrocities than the right.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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How come every time a liberal does something terrible, the so called "moderates" show up spewing the "both sides" narrative, while wagging their fingers at conservatives about "toning down the rhetoric"? They always seem more worried about the conservatives' possible reaction than the lefts actual actions. I don't think moderates would annoy me so much if they actually held the left to some type of standard(they don't). They also never acknowledge that the left commits way more atrocities than the right.

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A lot of them are part of or aligned with the Uniparty outlook. Someone with too much time on their hands should just compile a list of such `violations' and see what they see. See how many fake hoaxes there were, etc. Also, there is absolutely not comparison between the amount of times the MSM has stirred up a violent response or excused it, and the times Fox does (ironically, just today, you have one of those rare exceptions--but Brian statement is more like a too extreme view rather than a `calling for violence')

Because people have no sense of scale.

They believe it makes them appear smarter and above the fray.

They're wrong. It exposes them as ignorant and/or tolerant of the violence. I have some family like this. It's maddening that the J6 committee was "important and to be respected," but Charlie Kirk didn't deserve this "even though I didn't agree with him on everything."

He didn't deserve it. Period. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Speech does not warrant murder. No caveat needed.

Erika for VP? Erika / Vance ticket in 2028?

wait wait wait. In the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the New York Times is giving column space to this guy to have an imaginary debate with Charlie's ghost?https://t.co/CRILOIsLJb pic.twitter.com/smEAkwjjJW

— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) September 13, 2025

It is admittedly not 100-0 left v right. But I would bet in the last two years the violence is somewhere between 80-20 and 90-10.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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They believe it makes them appear smarter and above the fray.

They're wrong. It exposes them as ignorant and/or tolerant of the violence. I have some family like this. It's maddening that the J6 committee was "important and to be respected," but Charlie Kirk didn't deserve this "even though I didn't agree with him on everything."

He didn't deserve it. Period. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Speech does not warrant murder. No caveat needed.

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A lot of the responses I've seen online/Facebook start with, "I'm sorry for his wife and kids, but…"

Exactly like the "I'm not racist, but…."

You're not really sorry for his family, and you're a racist. Same deal.

I'm learning alot about some people last few days. And it makes me sad.

Example:

I can't stand the Squad. There's nothing in their vocabulary that is remotely close to my values. But, I'm certainly not in favor of anyone taking them out with a bolt action 30-06.

There's no way the left can pin this on the anyone but themselves. This is 100% the fault of the left and their media. They prey on the weak, and this time they found their huckleberry.

All the BS about racism, fascism and nationalism have exposed how deranged they have become.

After St. Floyd, among many other examples, and this assassination, we saw how "both sides" react to a significant, polarizing event.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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How come every time a liberal does something terrible, the so called "moderates" show up spewing the "both sides" narrative, while wagging their fingers at conservatives about "toning down the rhetoric"? They always seem more worried about the conservatives' possible reaction than the lefts actual actions. I don't think moderates would annoy me so much if they actually held the left to some type of standard(they don't). They also never acknowledge that the left commits way more atrocities than the right.

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My cousin, a prominent corporate attorney who once ran for congress for the Dems in their TX -10 primary and lost, tried that crap with me on Facebook.

The both sides do it narrative is their first go to.

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It is admittedly not 100-0 left v right. But I would bet in the last two years the violence is somewhere between 80-20 and 90-10.

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It gets really interesting if you break it down by anti-policy vs harming innocents. For example, one of the biggest on the right Jan6 is in the vogue of overdone riot against bad government. Some Founders wouldn't have even minded depending on what they believed took place under the now demonstrated falsehoods of 2020. Some of the left Portland riots would be in the same category--against a Fed building. But a school shooting is against innocents. Charlie Kirk was not a violence advocating activist--- he is in the innocent category or should be. The Floyd mess in Minneapolis cuts between -- its against perceived police misrule but innocents also involved. The drummed up violence in other cities not with such an incident was against innocents.

So let's say yes both sides have crazies that commit violent acts. Let's give them this. Follow up with them and ask which side celebrates it? I don't remember a single person on the right celebrate what happened in Minnesota. I don't remember anyone making excuses for people like the left does with trans violence.

Even if you give them the both sides commit violence how can they excuse the reaction from their leftist buddies

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wait wait wait. In the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the New York Times is giving column space to this guy to have an imaginary debate with Charlie's ghost?https://t.co/CRILOIsLJb pic.twitter.com/smEAkwjjJW

— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) September 13, 2025

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This individual believes that conservatives are just going to line up and allow the scum of the earth to eviscerate them.

They need to be careful for we do have the fortitude to fight back and when it happens, they are the ones that will be paying the price.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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How come every time a liberal does something terrible, the so called "moderates" show up spewing the "both sides" narrative, while wagging their fingers at conservatives about "toning down the rhetoric"? They always seem more worried about the conservatives' possible reaction than the lefts actual actions. I don't think moderates would annoy me so much if they actually held the left to some type of standard(they don't). They also never acknowledge that the left commits way more atrocities than the right.

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Think of the petulant child: Mom: No you can't have any ice cream until you take out the garbage! Lib child whose mom gave in and produced the spoiled adults: I want ice cream! You and Dad had some! Plus Bobby down the street never has to empty the trash! So I shouldn't either, plus I'll call CPS about you spanking me and washing my mouth with soap 6 years ago!

Indeed. The party didn't have any intestinal fortitude but that has finally been forcibly changed after years of impotent roll-over. Nothing is really off the table if they escalate violence.

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It is admittedly not 100-0 left v right. But I would bet in the last two years the violence is somewhere between 80-20 and 90-10.

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Let's see the data

Hint: they're not moderates...

I'm hoping somebody can find a meme for me that I saw on here this morning

Split screen still. Black comedian. On the left side he shoots a guy sitting in a chair. On the right side he tells the right they need to cool down their rhetoric.

I can't find it anywhere but I saw it on F16 this morning

We still have the Denny Hastert wing of the GOP.

This is a man who simply hates his voters. He hates their petty and provincial concerns over “not being slaughtered for their beliefs.” He hates that they don’t understand that the highest purpose of a statesman is preserving the carried interest loophole. He hates that they… https://t.co/e0nSKiOhro

— Pine Baron (@SpiritofPines) September 14, 2025

Fat Black Swan said:

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We still have the Denny Hastert wing of the GOP.

This is a man who simply hates his voters. He hates their petty and provincial concerns over “not being slaughtered for their beliefs.” He hates that they don’t understand that the highest purpose of a statesman is preserving the carried interest loophole. He hates that they… https://t.co/e0nSKiOhro

— Pine Baron (@SpiritofPines) September 14, 2025

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Lankford is garbage. He's the RINO that negotiated that worthless "bipartisan border bill" that got slapped down when the stupid republicans realized how pissed off their base was over that crap bill.

Fat Black Swan said:

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wait wait wait. In the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the New York Times is giving column space to this guy to have an imaginary debate with Charlie's ghost?https://t.co/CRILOIsLJb pic.twitter.com/smEAkwjjJW

— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) September 13, 2025

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Come at me bro. I'd love it

Hay Rocky see my post above. Was it one of yours?

Do you really want to go there, it exists, and is not pretty for the left in the last few decades.

It's basically McVeigh and Roof vs all comers in a leftist lasndslide. Edit. Forgot that Walmart immigration nut. That's 3 vs the field

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I'm hoping somebody can find a meme for me that I saw on here this morning

Split screen still. Black comedian. On the left side he shoots a guy sitting in a chair. On the right side he tells the right they need to cool down their rhetoric.

I can't find it anywhere but I saw it on F16 this morning

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I don't have that meme, but I do think that this other meme encapsulates the modern day, "above the fray", "moderate".

Dont take the bait in comparing those who commit the atrocities. Its about how ONLY the left demonizes the victims as "unsafe" or "violent extremist" etc leading up to their death.

You don't see GOP politicians, right leaning media, or conservatives in society labeling ANY victims on the left as "unsafe threats". Its ONLY the left that does that, not "both sides".

Its not ONLY the left that has destructive rhetoric towards victims, but it's ONLY the left that riots and destroys things when they feel their side has been unjustly wronged.

Its ONLY the left. Be prepared to make these points with your liberal friends and colleagues. Dont take the bait in comparing the shooters. Compare the stark differences in the rest of society, in the media and in DC leading up to the atrocities and their aftermath.

They would kill every single one of us. They have no moral bounds.

unimboti nkum said:

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agsalaska said:

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It is admittedly not 100-0 left v right. But I would bet in the last two years the violence is somewhere between 80-20 and 90-10.

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Let's see the data

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Will the data really sway you?

People on your team vehemently deny facts all of the time, and Im guessing you do as well.

FBI crime stats by race being one of the prime examples. And it has been that way for decades.
- This data should tell you that as a preventative action, that "restorative justice" just does not work. A majority of violent crimes are committed by a minority of actual people. Putting those people in jail, and not allowing them to interact with the public, is justice. The democrat method of repeatedly releasing violent crime committers is completely stupid. I want to hear a cogent argument as to why this is OK with most people who have a voice and vote for politicians. Spoiler alert: ITS NOT. NO ONE supports letting thugs out of jail to continue reigns of terror.

COVID is basically the flu, the data was clear, your brain was not, it kills old people, minimal impacts to kids.

The russian hoax was not true, there is data there that you will never believe, only one guy went to jail for editing a forward of an e-mail, but the entire thing was smoke and mirrors for mouthbreathing idiots. Someone like yourself, I suppose, but I could be wrong.

If you are open to reason, let's go there. But you aren't and never are.

Almost every position that leftists hold are completely fake and gay, just like the ****** that killed Charlie.

The date they're using doesn't count the multiple trans shooters as leftists. Some dbag was trying to claim Kirk's shooter was a right winger even after the trans stuff came out. They have fake data, compiled by the southern poverty law center (a marxist hate group) which is what that poster wants you to have to cite.

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The date they're using doesn't count the multiple trans shooters as leftists. Some dbag was trying to claim Kirk's shooter was a right winger even after the trans stuff came out. They have fake data, compiled by the southern poverty law center (a marxist hate group) which is what that poster wants you to have to cite.

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Yep. It's fake data like how those blue cities were classifying black criminals as "white" to try to hide how bad the black crime statistics actually were. Everything on the left is lies and BS, because their policies and ideology cannot stand on its own merits.

Both sides don't have trans, trans allies, or trans boyfriends.

One side doesn't assassinate. One side doesn't celebrate death. One side doesnt attempt to kill the president. One side doesnt judicially persecute their enemy. One side wants to discuss and engage in conversation of ideas. One side believes in God and Jesus. I could keep on for a long while but we know what the sides are and we know the one that is civil, good, religious and correct.

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I'm hoping somebody can find a meme for me that I saw on here this morning

Split screen still. Black comedian. On the left side he shoots a guy sitting in a chair. On the right side he tells the right they need to cool down their rhetoric.

I can't find it anywhere but I saw it on F16 this morning

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I dug into my sources and found what looks like what you are asking...



Is this the one?

There is not a single record of anyone on the right calling Hortman "unsafe" or an "extremist threat". There are tons of examples of people on the left claiming Kirk was "unsafe" and a "threat". The Biden admin even designated Kirk and TPUSA as a "domestic violent extremist". We arent just talking about random libs of tik tok, we are talking about elected Dems, Feds, and prominent news networks.

That's the data. Its not "both sides".