Will we ever really know or believe what the tell us about Kirk's killer?

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schmellba99
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El Gallo Blanco said:

schmellba99 said:

This was the work of a deranged unhinged leftist lunatic, nothing more.

The shot wasn't some super awesome Delta Force sniper shot. It was a 140 yard shot with a bolt action .30-06 from a fixed position at a relatively static target. Kirk wasn't wearing a vest, and odds are the shooter was aiming at his chest and missed high due to not taking into account the elevation delta, cheap scope, run of the mill gun that was probably only marginally sighted in and a shooter that wasn't some trained hardened killer.

The fact that it hit Charlie in the neck was nothing more than a combination of a bunch of factors that were highly unfortunate for Mr. Kirk.

What about everything outside of the shot? Most ordinary deranged leftists could not have pulled that off imo. If not professional, this kid if pretty good. To get in and out and scale building up and down, undetected, and get away scot free....to me that is pretty impressive.

I doubt it was all that hard to gain access to the roof of a building like that, and anybody that has the brain cells to plan something out up to the point of the shot also likely is smart enough to plan an egress route.

This isn't rocket science, it really isn't. It isn't like this is some Mission Impossible **** where he had to scale walls and avoid lasers and all kinds of other stuff. He walked upstairs and through a door to the roof then crawled to the edge, took a shot, then used the crowd dispersing as good enough cover to get away from the area. Even dumb criminals do things like this.

And if he hasn't offed himself yet, he's not scott free for too much longer. He left way too much evidence behind. My guess is we find out he's either dead or captured within a few days.
Silent For Too Long
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Horse with No Name said:

I agree with the sentiment of your post. I can't remember who it was attributed to, but something like, "people believe in conspiracies because they don't want to let themselves believe that one lone wolf with opportunity can change the course of history."

Conspiracies are actually comforting because feeling like there is some bigger group, no matter how evil, in control is better than acknowledging that we have no one in control.


Yeah. But there IS also grand conspiracies. The Reichstag Fire, for instance.

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schmellba99 said:

This was the work of a deranged unhinged leftist lunatic, nothing more.

The shot wasn't some super awesome Delta Force sniper shot. It was a 140 yard shot with a bolt action .30-06 from a fixed position at a relatively static target. Kirk wasn't wearing a vest, and odds are the shooter was aiming at his chest and missed high due to not taking into account the elevation delta, cheap scope, run of the mill gun that was probably only marginally sighted in and a shooter that wasn't some trained hardened killer.

The fact that it hit Charlie in the neck was nothing more than a combination of a bunch of factors that were highly unfortunate for Mr. Kirk.

How would the shooter know he wasn't wearing a vest? Maybe he wanted a head shot just in case but Charlie's head was obscured by the tent and the shot he took was perfect. Odds are you're correct but I don't think conclusions can be drawn until they actually catch the assailant. Until they do, nothing is certain. The fact that he's still at large while "experts" on Fox News are saying that with all the surveillance capabilities the FBI is right on top of him and it's just a matter of time leaves the door open for speculation.
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That video is not very definitive in the least. He has a theory, but it's full of holes and issues.

Give. What Kirk was dressed in, a plate just hanging out just doesn't work.

And he has a very light shirt on, pulled up by the passing bullet. The spot on the shirt is the blood.

You would have to have very high speed video to make the determinations this guy is making.
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Rapier108 said:

And people would still claim it is all a lie because some people are so broken they literally believe that reality itself isn't real.

I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist but this statement is so detached from the reality of 2025. Reality truly isn't real today.

Unless you see the event happen in person, with your own two eyes, how can you believe anything you see is reality? This is a major problem AI is bringing to humanity.
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Rapier108 said:

They could have 500 people ID the guy.

They could have thousands of images and tons of videos clearly IDing him.

They could catch him with the gun.

They could have fingerprints, DNA, etc. etc. etc.

He could openly and proudly admit it to everyone.

And people would still claim it is all a lie because some people are so broken they literally believe that reality itself isn't real.
The government has lied to us about COVID.

The government has lied to us about our involvement in foreign conflicts.

The government has lied to us about other vaccinations.

The government has lied to us about how addictive opioids are.

Why should any of us just accept anything the government says at face value? Do people question things like this because THEY are broken or because our government is broken? Surely a mix of both.
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Epstein was killed by professionals.

All of Hilary's victims were killed by professionals.

JFK was killed by professionals.

The open AI guy was killed by professionals.

None of the pics released is the guy carrying that rifle. Which means it was already on sight.

I don't know why he would leave it in the woods vs on the roof. It was going to be found either way.

That either means the gun was planted and the paper wrapped bullet lesson from the movie the shooter is true, or he didn't plan his escape well.

A amateur could pull this off.

A pro would have help.

I won't believe any version outside of the gov saying it was the CIA.

But a look for as much info out of this as we got from trumps 2 shooters.

itsyourboypookie
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Now there's video of him limping on his way to the event. Likely with gun in pants.

Which isn't a pro move and is an elaborate patsy.

Will he be found dead or alive?

If alive do you think he talks to the media?


TA-OP
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Frankly, we're at a point where rightists won't believe it no matter what.
bobbranco
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TA-OP said:

Frankly, we're at a point where rightists won't believe it no matter what.

Profound.
DE4D
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Well since you asked

How about Antonin Scalia
Hoyt Ag
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Scalia and Jamal Khashoggi
Horse with No Name
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That certainly seemed out of left field at the time, as I d never heard of any health problems with him. I guess Occam's razor softened my viewguys die around 80 years old all the time.
Ridin' 'cross the desert. . .
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Horse with No Name said:



TL/DR--This is going to be another JFK where won't ever know in our heart of hearts who did this.

It wasn't Oswald acting alone.
DE4D
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I'd agree if there had been an autopsy for the sitting supreme Court justice, instead of a quick burial.
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