Your relativism is disgusting.

We know we're not normies. Normies don't spend time on politics forums. But you know what anverage people ALSO don't do? They don't use the term "sub" - which betrays that you yourself spend tons of time in an equally uncommon but far worse leftist Petri dish.

The godless left ascribes to murderous ideologies and appeasement (to include goaltending with whataboutisms) will only ever bring ratcheting destruction.

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AgLA06 said:

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The vast majority of Americans are disturbed that a public execution would happen. Especially over politics like a third world county, but not because of who it was.

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Shooting and killing an innocent person is not politics, it is murder.

If executed, it would be because he murdered an innocent person, not because of politics.

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This doesn't happen without the influence of politics. It's literally the reason his event existed. And the reason some sick, demented person justified killing him.

I'm 100% with you on the imoral position of any murder, including this one. However, you're kidding yourself if this isn't due to the continued polarization of politics. Just look at other thread on F16 right now. There's threads with 100s of posts of those aligned with far right demanding the doxing, firing, and destroying of business on the other end of the spectrum based on social media posts of far left with questionable sanity and their view of this.

maroonthrunthru said:

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"Do you remember where you were when"…

JFK was murdered ?? Yep…

9/11 happened ?? Yep…

Charlie Kirk was murdered ?? Yep…

This event has that much impact for this 71 year old Ag…

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79 yrs here and I also remember where I was:

Word of RFK assassination (Having breakfast in AZ, on my way to NAS Lemoore, Ca.)

When US ordered troops into Viet Nam (Freshman in College, American History class)

When N. Korea captured the USS San Pueblo (Serving in USN, Republic of the Philippines)

Get Off My Lawn said:

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Your relativism is disgusting.

We know we're not normies. Normies don't spend time on politics forums. But you know what anverage people ALSO don't do? They don't use the term "sub" - which betrays that you yourself spend tons of time in an equally uncommon but far worse leftist Petri dish.

The godless left ascribes to murderous ideologies and appeasement (to include goaltending with whataboutisms) will only ever bring ratcheting destruction.

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I have no idea what your rant is supposed to mean. TexAgs has been an internet message boards with sub boards since I joined in the early 2000s. My posting history is public. It's generally the various sports subs, Houston, and the outdoors sub.

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I told my wife that I don't think anything similar to this has happened in my lifetime.

Lord have mercy.

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The large majority of America might know the name because of shock politics and the media, but couldn't tell you much about him otherwise.

This is a big deal to the 10% on the far right. The 10% on the far left are probably not upset and the mentally ill are probably celebrating.

The vast majority of Americans are disturbed that a public execution would happen. Especially over politics like a third world county, but not because of who it was. The polarization of politics in this country is leading it down a dark path. TexAgs F16 is just as responsible for that as the far left on other internet sites.

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Sorry but you pissed me off. This is so vapid, non critical thinking it makes me want to puke. As does moral relativism which you post reeks of.

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Doc, I like and appreciate you. But if that is true, I'd suggest taking a step back and maybe even talking to someone.

A lot of people on here don't realize it, but F16 (both sides that argue on here) is largely detached from the norms and majority of Republicans and Democrats in America. Things that have been posted and justified as morally right on this sub (especially the last 24 hours) from both sides is truly disturbing.

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With all due respect, I am not the one who needs to step back.
I feel your post was ill timed. This whole deal about how both sides are equally at fault is moral relativism which I hate. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
BTHO Notre Dame!

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one safe place said:

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AgLA06 said:

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The vast majority of Americans are disturbed that a public execution would happen. Especially over politics like a third world county, but not because of who it was.

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Shooting and killing an innocent person is not politics, it is murder.

If executed, it would be because he murdered an innocent person, not because of politics.

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This doesn't happen without the influence of politics. It's literally the reason his event existed. And the reason some sick, demented person justified killing him.

I'm 100% with you on the imoral position of any murder, including this one. However, you're kidding yourself if this isn't due to the continued polarization of politics. Just look at other thread on F16 right now. There's threads with 100s of posts of those aligned with far right demanding the doxing, firing, and destroying of business on the other end of the spectrum based on social media posts of far left with questionable sanity and their view of this.

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Destroy them before they destroy you. Good luck with your appeasement of progressives who will line you up to be shot

AgLA06 said:

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The polarization of politics in this country is leading it down a dark path. TexAgs F16 is just as responsible for that as the far left on other internet sites.

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GTFO of here with this crap.

Threatening language towards anyone on this site is not tolerated by the Mods or posters.

Civil disagreement on any subject is welcome, but if you want to see the power of the TexAgs ban hammer, and how swift it is swung, threatening someone or throwing personal insults at someone comes with swift retribution.

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I wouldn't say "far right." I think "Christian right" would be more accurate. But most people are probably really finding out about him now.

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Agree to disagree. I'm a Christian Republican as are most in my circle social. Outside of family who watches Fox News every night, none could have told you much about Charlie Kirk until yesterday. Most of the conversations I've heard today at work have been the same.

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maroonthrunthru said:

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"Do you remember where you were when"…

JFK was murdered ?? Yep…

9/11 happened ?? Yep…

Charlie Kirk was murdered ?? Yep…

This event has that much impact for this 71 year old Ag…

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I'm a little too young for the JFK assassination.
As a solid Gen Xer, I think our first "JFK" moment was the Challenger explosion.
My list includes that and a few others that may or not have been mentioned already…Tiananamen Square, fall of The Wall, etc.
But yeah, as a 51 year old, this one makes the list.
Yesterday's tears have turned into fury and resolve.

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Before 9/11, the two biggest ones for me were Challenger and Reagan being shot.

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BBRex said:

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I wouldn't say "far right." I think "Christian right" would be more accurate. But most people are probably really finding out about him now.

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Agree to disagree. I'm a Christian Republican as are most in my circle social. Outside of family who watches Fox News every night, none could have told you much about Charlie Kirk until yesterday. Most of the conversations I've heard today at work have been the same.

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Sometimes it is better to keep one's thoughts to their self. Trust me, I know. This is not the time to make moral relativism posts like this.

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He was everything libs CLAIM they want…

Caring, compassionate, willing to listen and debate, yet steadfast in his beliefs…

They hated him and killed him because today's libs don't want debate, they don't want disagreement…. They want UNWAVERING AUTHORITY over you and me..

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Matthew 10:22

And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

People have been moving to the right as the liberals keep spouting their rhetoric of nonsense and obvious lies, along with a myriad of other reasons. Yesterday's tragedy in Utah will move the needle further to the right. Those unwilling to budge are unwilling to realistically look at both themselves and those they hold in esteem regardless of political or religious beliefs or positions.

Hank the Grifter said:

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maroonthrunthru said:

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"Do you remember where you were when"…

JFK was murdered ?? Yep…

9/11 happened ?? Yep…

Charlie Kirk was murdered ?? Yep…

This event has that much impact for this 71 year old Ag…

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I'm a little too young for the JFK assassination.
As a solid Gen Xer, I think our first "JFK" moment was the Challenger explosion.
My list includes that and a few others that may or not have been mentioned already…Tiananamen Square, fall of The Wall, etc.
But yeah, as a 51 year old, this one makes the list.
Yesterday's tears have turned into fury and resolve.

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I am 75 and remember all of those. The Challenger was when we lived in Florida on the west coast but we alway made sure we checked for launch times and got to where we could observe. I was pregnant with my second Aggie to be and on my way to a ob appointment across town . We pulled over on the side of the road to watch the launch. I will never forget that . A local thing I will not forget was when the boat hit the Sunshine Skyway bridge at the mouth of Tampa Bay. It was the worst weather I have ever seen. It looked like midnight at 9:00a in the morning.

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I wouldn't say "far right." I think "Christian right" would be more accurate. But most people are probably really finding out about him now.

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Agree to disagree. I'm a Christian Republican

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Clearly you are not

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The above is the most accurate depiction of what has been going on for decades. The left has become increasingly fringe and radical. The left has established no guardrails for what defines as "too far". The right is constantly having to denounce and reject perceived wrongs and associations of far-right individuals (i.e every Republican having to denounce David Duke). Where is an example of someone on the left doing the same? Who is denouncing the communist? Who is denouncing the jihadist? Who is denouncing the 14-time felon? The prior debate has been completely asymmetrical. It is illogical to claim "the right" bears an equal amount of blame to the current climate. Now we find ourselves in a situation where the average leftist has moved so far left that every average conservative looks like Hilter. Think I am wrong, listen to old clips of Clinton on abortion, immigration, crime reform. Leftist then used this warped reality as a justification for violence.

I would agree that this is a seminal event because a line has been drawn and it's time to choose what side you want to be on. The current response of "the right" is not a cause but rather a response to the asymmetric injustice, ostracization, censorship, and now violence that has been waged against them. If you can't see that, you are delusional. I truly wish it wasn't true, but payback is coming and it's going to be a *****.

This is only a seminal moment if Kirk's followers lift up his speakings and life their life in a conservative manner. Get married. Have kids. Attend church. Tithe. Volunteer. Run for local public office. Support Conservative politicians. Be kind but set firm boundaries with people who disagree with you.

If they just all blindly move onto the next influencer that enters the void, no one will think much of this in a few years other then a footnote on Wikipedia.

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one safe place said:

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AgLA06 said:

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The vast majority of Americans are disturbed that a public execution would happen. Especially over politics like a third world county, but not because of who it was.

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Shooting and killing an innocent person is not politics, it is murder.

If executed, it would be because he murdered an innocent person, not because of politics.

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This doesn't happen without the influence of politics. It's literally the reason his event existed. And the reason some sick, demented person justified killing him.

I'm 100% with you on the imoral position of any murder, including this one. However, you're kidding yourself if this isn't due to the continued polarization of politics. Just look at other thread on F16 right now. There's threads with 100s of posts of those aligned with far right demanding the doxing, firing, and destroying of business on the other end of the spectrum based on social media posts of far left with questionable sanity and their view of this.

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Stop labeling everyone here as "far right". The definition of what constitutes "far right" has gotten entirely too broad.

When I was in college I was told I was liberal. My own father said he dreaded the day I started voting because I would cancel out his vote.

25 years later my views & beliefs haven't changed, but suddenly I'm considered "far right / MAGA".