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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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I have to believe we already have something like this going on. But, you could have multiple high resolution, high altitude drones orbiting over areas taking video 24/7. Save the footage on the cloud. Then when something like the Charlie Kirk assassination takes place, they can go back and trace where the shooter came from and where they went after.

The EYE in the SKY.

Low cost, but highly useful for multiple things...

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This is a reaction, not a response...and it's not a good idea.

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Eliminatus said:

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Eliminatus said:

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Absolutely true. I'll go a step further. I'd hazard an educated guess, that if Trump called for increased surveillance like the OP, a healthy percentage of this forum would flip their position in a heartbeat, and argue why it was a good thing.

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redcrayon said:

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Eliminatus said:

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redcrayon said:

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Eliminatus said:

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Eliminatus said:

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Then your initial post made no sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Now go read Baseball's post so you can understand why saying "y'all" might annoy some regular posters here. ONE person posts something and a few of you start claiming it's "F16" when it's clearly not. There are a ton of great posters here and I don't like seeing a few people try and discredit the entire board.

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redcrayon said:

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Eliminatus said:

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Then your initial post made no sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Now go read Baseball's post so you can understand why saying "y'all" might annoy some regular posters here. ONE person posts something and a few of you start claiming it's "F16" when it's clearly not. There are a ton of great posters here and I don't like seeing a few people try and discredit the entire board.

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It made sense to quite a few people apparently. And it still does to me. And going to be honest, I am not going to be super distraught over your misunderstanding and to be frank, I don't know you and don't care what you think of this board. I truly do not and I cannot stress that enough. I am not even typing that in a snide tone or anything. That is a purely objective statement. Just like you should not care what I think about it. Or anyone else for that matter.

I cannot believe we have drug this out, this long, over an off hand statement. Chalk it up as a misunderstanding and move on. I know I have!

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Absolutely true. I'll go a step further. I'd hazard an educated guess, that if Trump called for increased surveillance like the OP, a healthy percentage of this forum would flip their position in a heartbeat, and argue why it was a good thing.

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I was surprised at the rather introspective and sober analysis that cropped up here after Trump's team floated gun bans for transgender folks. It was a big departure from the usual cold, dead hands response to any gun control proposal.

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redcrayon said:

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redcrayon said:

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Then your initial post made no sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Now go read Baseball's post so you can understand why saying "y'all" might annoy some regular posters here. ONE person posts something and a few of you start claiming it's "F16" when it's clearly not. There are a ton of great posters here and I don't like seeing a few people try and discredit the entire board.

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It made sense to quite a few people apparently. And it still does to me. And going to be honest, I am not going to be super distraught over your misunderstanding and to be frank, I don't know you and don't care what you think of this board. I truly do not and I cannot stress that enough. I am not even typing that in a snide tone or anything. That is a purely objective statement. Just like you should not care what I think about it. Or anyone else for that matter.

I cannot believe we have drug this out, this long, over an off hand statement. Chalk it up as a misunderstanding and move on. I know I have!

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I don't know you either. Maybe you're from the GB? I just get sick of the lazy people who crap on F16 but keep finding their way back here. You have plenty of company. And they usually have stars.

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I have to believe we already have something like this going on. But, you could have multiple high resolution, high altitude drones orbiting over areas taking video 24/7. Save the footage on the cloud. Then when something like the Charlie Kirk assassination takes place, they can go back and trace where the shooter came from and where they went after.

The EYE in the SKY.

Low cost, but highly useful for multiple things...

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I have a book I think you should read. It's by a guy named George Orwell

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It is interesting to read the responses to my OP. I am with you all on the fact that this is very Orwellian. I don't like it either. But, I am a practical person that deals with reality. The reality is that this surveillance is already happening in many ways. Just now the Authorities this morning are holding a press conference where it was announced that they have been able to "track" the suspect from before he arrived to afterwards going into a neighborhood.

How do you think they were able to do this?

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The reality is that we will almost invariably end up tracking towards a China like surveillance state in time. We just have to forestall it as long as we can. It's the best we can do. Just like gun rights I am sure. Fight for every inch because the pressure is constant and when you give for a second, you lose too much ground.

We shouldn't hasten it forward into our lives and our children's lives more than it already is.

And the most common methods of tracking nowadays are your cell phone and CCTVs, bar none. And witnesses for crimes. There is still a considerable jump from that level to constant drones watching us at every second. I truly hope you can see that.

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Absolutely true. I'll go a step further. I'd hazard an educated guess, that if Trump called for increased surveillance like the OP, a healthy percentage of this forum would flip their position in a heartbeat, and argue why it was a good thing.

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I was surprised at the rather introspective and sober analysis that cropped up here after Trump's team floated gun bans for transgender folks. It was a big departure from the usual cold, dead hands response to any gun control proposal.

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We prohibit guns from people for good reasons. Very few people, even the "cold, dead hands" responders you mischaracterize (maybe not intentionally, Im not taking a shot at you here) have any issues with restricting access and/or posession from violent felons or people with certain forms of mental illness, for example.

I think a debate over who is mentally ill and who is not is fair but the implied "gotcha" in your statement is not based in reality in my experience.

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Then your initial post made no sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Now go read Baseball's post so you can understand why saying "y'all" might annoy some regular posters here. ONE person posts something and a few of you start claiming it's "F16" when it's clearly not. There are a ton of great posters here and I don't like seeing a few people try and discredit the entire board.

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It made sense to quite a few people apparently. And it still does to me. And going to be honest, I am not going to be super distraught over your misunderstanding and to be frank, I don't know you and don't care what you think of this board. I truly do not and I cannot stress that enough. I am not even typing that in a snide tone or anything. That is a purely objective statement. Just like you should not care what I think about it. Or anyone else for that matter.

I cannot believe we have drug this out, this long, over an off hand statement. Chalk it up as a misunderstanding and move on. I know I have!

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I don't know you either. Maybe you're from the GB? I just get sick of the lazy people who crap on F16 but keep finding their way back here. You have plenty of company. And they usually have stars.

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Not a regular on TA anymore. Poke around maybe once a month or so. Had to yesterday, for obvious reasons. And yeah, mostly F16 over the years. Some OB.

I'll check in at the guard station next time, pinkie promise. Or wave to OP's drone.

But seriously, my initial post was NOT to denigrate the entire board. That truly is a misunderstanding by you. One I still don't get how you don't get but whatever.

GB is pretty lame but harmless but we are going to have problems if you think I am one of the premies who come in for the drivebys. Debate, talk ****, whatever. Dump a hot button and then disappear is garbage work. I would never!

Others have danced around it. I'll be blunt and to the point.

OP, what in the literal **** are you thinking?

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Then your initial post made no sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Now go read Baseball's post so you can understand why saying "y'all" might annoy some regular posters here. ONE person posts something and a few of you start claiming it's "F16" when it's clearly not. There are a ton of great posters here and I don't like seeing a few people try and discredit the entire board.

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It made sense to quite a few people apparently. And it still does to me. And going to be honest, I am not going to be super distraught over your misunderstanding and to be frank, I don't know you and don't care what you think of this board. I truly do not and I cannot stress that enough. I am not even typing that in a snide tone or anything. That is a purely objective statement. Just like you should not care what I think about it. Or anyone else for that matter.

I cannot believe we have drug this out, this long, over an off hand statement. Chalk it up as a misunderstanding and move on. I know I have!

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I don't know you either. Maybe you're from the GB? I just get sick of the lazy people who crap on F16 but keep finding their way back here. You have plenty of company. And they usually have stars.

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Not a regular on TA anymore. Poke around maybe once a month or so. Had to yesterday, for obvious reasons. And yeah, mostly F16 over the years. Some OB.

I'll check in at the guard station next time, pinkie promise. Or wave to OP's drone.

But seriously, my initial post was NOT to denigrate the entire board. That truly is a misunderstanding by you. One I still don't get how you don't get but whatever.

GB is pretty lame but harmless but we are going to have problems if you think I am one of the premies who come in for the drivebys. Debate, talk ****, whatever. Dump a hot button and then disappear is garbage work. I would never!

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Don't need more surveillance. What we need is a defense against prosecution for popping somebody in the mouth when the first start to run it. Good people will start doing what is necessary.

Nein, danke

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Others have danced around it. I'll be blunt and to the point.

OP, what in the literal **** are you thinking?

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I have made other comments on this thread besides the OP. Read them...

OP idea is obviously creepy, but at this point any public figure doing a speech or rally outdoors should at a minimum have a security detail flying a drone over the area, checking rooftops and obvious shooter locations.

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OP idea is obviously creepy, but at this point any public figure doing a speech or rally outdoors should at a minimum have a security detail flying a drone over the area, checking rooftops and obvious shooter locations.

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I don't think anyone here is objecting to the idea of using surveillance drones to cover security for an event. What the OP is proposing is 24/7 coverage of all populated areas. Screw that.

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OP idea is obviously creepy, but at this point any public figure doing a speech or rally outdoors should at a minimum have a security detail flying a drone over the area, checking rooftops and obvious shooter locations.

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I don't think anyone here is objecting to the idea of using surveillance drones to cover security for an event. What the OP is proposing is 24/7 coverage of all populated areas. Screw that.

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which is why I said OP was creepy. I don't understand why security detail flying camera drones over public speaking events is not more commonplace.

Houston, we have a problem

I feel like I'm Tom Cruise!

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The flip flop of the political ideology of some here on F16 is crazy to see happen in real time.

Yall are really welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now??

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Who's y'all? A guy makes a wrong post based on emotion of the minute. Nobody here is welcoming the surveillance state but the left. Look for constancy of message dude.

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And we are supposed to know it's an emotional wrong post....how again? I responded to what I read. Which is wanting a police state. No thanks. Which everyone seems to agrees with. I am not understanding your point?

Damn me for lack of Constancy of message though and yet you have to explain away the OP as a "wrong post"? Even when they themselves have not once backtracked anything they said and have in fact, doubled down repeatedly? Are you speaking for him now? Does he know this? Basically, what in the ever loving hell are you talking about in this whole thing?

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But you said "y'all" which implied it was more than just one guy. Words matter. Has anyone here agreed with him?

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I was referring to F16 in general, mate. Not the thread which was almost nonexistent at the time. Note the time stamps of the responses if you want. You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYY to f'ing hard into this. I promise.

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I know exactly what you were referring to which is why I called you out. I saw ONE person call for surveillance and everyone else call him out. So why do you think F16 is welcoming PATRIOT ACT x10 now?

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No, you do not know what I am referring to. That is abundantly clear now.

I am referring to SOME here on F16 over the years who have damn near flip flopped from strong conservative viewpoints to wanting government crackdowns on anything and anyone they don't agree with. Up to and including welcoming a strengthened surveillance state as espoused by the OP.

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Absolutely true. I'll go a step further. I'd hazard an educated guess, that if Trump called for increased surveillance like the OP, a healthy percentage of this forum would flip their position in a heartbeat, and argue why it was a good thing.

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One more step…. If Trump called for gun control a big chunk of his base would be all for it. (Probably not a majority of F16, but this place is a unique slice of MAGA)

How about event organizers allowed to fly these drones over their events? Seems the same result would be achieved without government interference.

Kirk could have done this himself and announce that the drone everyone is seeing is his for security surveillance. Thus letting a would-be criminal know he's on camera.

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I have a book I think you should read. It's by a guy named George Orwell

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The CIA already has a satellite network that can do what OP wants. Can track huge number of cars plains and ships in all weather conditions.

It is limited though by latitude.

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No, that seems even more intrusive than the Patriot Act

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OP, read this guy's signature.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin.

People freaked out about drones a few months ago, now someone wants them back

Let's clear this up. It's real simple.

The security of any high profile person should have a drone operator within the detail. Would have saved Charlie's life

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Exactly. Police departments in Texas could just call up cellphone companies and request cell phone locations without a warrant for quite a while. When this became common knowledge, it forced the cell phone companies into requiring a subpoena for the information.
How much freedom are we going to give up for a false sense of security.

Those FLOCK cameras are all over the place

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This might be the worst OP for 2025. God man, you want an orwellian future?

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We sadly already have it. Watch some youtube videos on Flock cameras and ALPRs that most towns have installed on every road in/out of town. Some bigger areas have hundreds of these cameras and can track a plate all over the country without a warrant.

I'm generally not a huge fan of the ACLU but they're right on the mark with this issue

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/how-to-pump-the-brakes-on-your-police-departments-use-of-flocks-mass-surveillance-license-plate-readers

Texas should, but will never, ban the use of these systems in state.

Edit: See I missed the post about this on page 1 somehow.

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I'll blue star you anyways. :-) Great minds...

The OP, Houston Lee, does not understand the difference between somewhat compartmentalized forensic, law-enforcement and Ring doorbell data collection, and the totalitarian, Chinese-style surveillance state for which he advocates. He should go visit China or Russia. Have fun!

The FBI would have Kirk's killer in handcuffs by now if they had drone eye in the sky video. Could have followed his progress from the time he jumped off that building…

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That's what is dangerous about these times. One party is actively trying to destroy the nation and the other side starts thinking they have to destroy it to save it.

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That's very sage observation. Problem is there may be some truth to it. Certainly the present crop of education and press occupants needs some real cleaning out and fresh outlooks.