Christianity was the target…

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maroonthrunthru
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Charlie Kirk was a warrior…. A warrior for the values that have helped our nation grow and thrive.

Christian values… Christ-Like Values…

The Left has no redeemable soul…

May God have mercy on all of us… We've lost our way..
Pichael Thompson
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Free speech is the target


suburban cowboy
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I agree 100%.

People call this was a "political hit", which is true, but it was primarily an attack on Christianity sans Christian Nationalism
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Pichael Thompson said:

Free speech is the target





Free thought was the target. He saved so many kids from being sheep even if he didn't change their mind. He still opened their minds....that's what the liberals feared most about Charlie.
Queso1
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Common sense and decency were the target.
BonfireNerd04
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Do we even know the shooter's name yet?

He (or she) could have been anti-Republican, anti-White, anti-Christian, LGBTQ, or Communist. Certainly leftist, but we don't know the specific motivation. Don't jump to conclusions.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser
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Charlie's massive influence on young voters was the target.
maroonthrunthru
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I respectfully disagree on the Free speech angle of attack…
Watched a lot of his YouTube videos tonight…

Charlie Kirk's views were grounded in Christ-Centered beliefs…

Go watch a lot of the debates he had with college students…

Most of the students' beliefs were based on secular/agnostic//atheist rationale.

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.

You couldn't actually BE a Christian (not just call yourself one) and disagree with his theses…
TresPuertas
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anyone can argue how they want but the OP is right.

Anti abortion, free speech, biblical marriage, the Perfection of Gods creation. all of Kirk's points were all biblically based. and they hated him and killed him for it.

this was an attack on Christianity
Queso1
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No. They are at large.
AgFormerlyInIrving
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maroonthrunthru said:

Christianity was the target

It almost always is.
TexAgs91
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maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Anti-west Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

Here, here! (Applause) Shouldn't hold tongue so much. People need to hear the pro-western non-theists speak so they know they are there. Much of this is about cultural treason --- dismantling western civilization literally. The Left is pushing cultural treason and acting out constantly of late.
mjschiller
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Kirk's assassination was political and religious. Pure evil.
Jack Boyette
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TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.


You can not believe in God, and his statement can still be true. You probably have values that are similar to ours, but for some reason don't believe those emanate from God and Christianity. They still might.
Who?mikejones!
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No, it wasn't.
BusterAg
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Charlie was a Christian.

His Christianity was the primary driver of his political message.

Charlie's political message was very consistent with Christian ideas.

But his primary message wasn't "turn to Jesus" it was "talk to your neighbor, with love, even if you disagree with him, about the things with which you disagree".

While that is almost exactly what Jesus said, that message is the best way through life whether you believe that Jesus was the Son of God or not.

I would prefer that we don't muddy the water of the message by bringing religion into this.
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TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.


Amen.
AgDotCom
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TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

Fair enough. I acknowledge and respect your comments and belief.

Now, what if someone says Charlie Kirk's opinions were biblically based? Do you agree or disagree that the bible (uncapitalized out of respect to your beliefs) exists / has existed for millennia and advocates what Charlie Kirk stood for?

Additionally, can you name any secular literature of any epoch which does the same, to the same extent, and with the same influence as the bible?
BboroAg
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maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie Kirk was a warrior…. A warrior for the values that have helped our nation grow and thrive.

Christian values… Christ-Like Values…

The Left has no redeemable soul…

May God have mercy on all of us… We've lost our way..


Truth

All this left vs right and Democrats vs Republicans and black vs white talk is a distraction.

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
Ephesians 6:12 NKJV
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mjschiller said:

Kirk's assassination was political and religious. Pure evil.


I am a CM agnostic, and i would be very unlikely to attend a Charlie Kirk event. I am comfortable saying his assassination was politically motivated, was an attack on freedom of speech, and was an attack on religion.

Political violence like this is very bad for the country, regardless of your political stripe. Same if someone on the left is shot.
TexAgs91
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Jack Boyette said:

TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.


You can not believe in God, and his statement can still be true. You probably have values that are similar to ours, but for some reason don't believe those emanate from God and Christianity. They still might.

No, the statement is not true because I am at least one case where Christian faith is not required for Charlie's opinions to be compatible with my ideals.

I know it's crazy but yes, atheists can have values too.

I'd say this: Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with western civilization.

But I'm no expert on eastern civilizations.
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TexAgs91
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AgDotCom said:

TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

Fair enough. I acknowledge and respect your comments and belief.

Now, what if someone says Charlie Kirk's opinions were biblically based? Do you agree or disagree that the bible (uncapitalized out of respect to your beliefs) exists / has existed for millennia and advocates what Charlie Kirk stood for?

I agree that the bible heavily influenced Charlie's opinions.

AgDotCom said:

Additionally, can you name any secular literature of any epoch which does the same, to the same extent, and with the same influence as the bible?


The Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have others do to you covers a lot of our value system.
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AgDotCom
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TexAgs91 said:

AgDotCom said:

TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

Fair enough. I acknowledge and respect your comments and belief.

Now, what if someone says Charlie Kirk's opinions were biblically based? Do you agree or disagree that the bible (uncapitalized out of respect to your beliefs) exists / has existed for millennia and advocates what Charlie Kirk stood for?

I agree that the bible heavily influenced Charlie's opinions.

AgDotCom said:

Additionally, can you name any secular literature of any epoch which does the same, to the same extent, and with the same influence as the bible?


The Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have others do to you covers a lot of our value system.

And from where did the Golden Rule emanate? Exodus? Leviticus? Matthew? Socrates? Confucius?Hemingway? Or did it appear out of nowhere through a series of rolls of the dice?
Bulldog73
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Charlie's message was explicitly biblically based and reflective of his purposefully Christian values. He was killed because those values are being seen as expressions of hate (by whatever branch of antiChrist that the shooter embraced). That is where we are now- a significant portion of this nation considers the Bible and Christianity as hateful. If that portion of the nation prevails, as it was so close to just a year ago, then God help us.
ntxVol
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Christians, claiming victim status for over 2000 years.
TexAgs91
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AgDotCom said:

TexAgs91 said:

AgDotCom said:

TexAgs91 said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie's opinions about just about everything were only compatible with Christian faith ideals.



Bull***** I've seen crap like this on this board all over the place today and have held my tongue. I'm an atheist and fully supported what Charlie stood for and his right to say it. I don't have any issues with him being a Christian. I am pro America, pro freedom and pro western civilization so of course I'm on his side.

Democrats are an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

Fair enough. I acknowledge and respect your comments and belief.

Now, what if someone says Charlie Kirk's opinions were biblically based? Do you agree or disagree that the bible (uncapitalized out of respect to your beliefs) exists / has existed for millennia and advocates what Charlie Kirk stood for?

I agree that the bible heavily influenced Charlie's opinions.

AgDotCom said:

Additionally, can you name any secular literature of any epoch which does the same, to the same extent, and with the same influence as the bible?


The Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have others do to you covers a lot of our value system.

And from where did the Golden Rule emanate? Exodus? Leviticus? Matthew? Socrates? Confucius?Hemingway? Or did it appear out of nowhere through a series of rolls of the dice?

The golden rule is based on stable reciprocity - which is a situation where patterns of mutual exchange help, favors, goods, or cooperation are maintained over time, creating equilibrium and predictability in relationships or systems. In game theory and social science, it describes strategies or behaviors that, once widely adopted in a group, no individual has an incentive to deviate from because mutual cooperation remains the optimal and sustainable outcome for everyone involved.

The concept behind the golden rule has emerged in multiple cultures and even in other animals. The reason it's universal is because it's an efficient strategy for survival.


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maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie Kirk was a warrior…. A warrior for the values that have helped our nation grow and thrive.

Christian values… Christ-Like Values…

The Left has no redeemable soul…

May God have mercy on all of us… We've lost our way..

The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.

Charlie is more powerful now than ever before.

The enemies of God will understand that more clearly soon. Mark this down.
whatthehey78
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It's clear to me, everywhere you look..."hate" reigns.

"And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold." - Matthew 24:12

He is real and He WILL rule.

"that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." - Phillipians 2:10-11

AMEN!

whatthehey78
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TheEternalOptimist said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Charlie Kirk was a warrior…. A warrior for the values that have helped our nation grow and thrive.

Christian values… Christ-Like Values…

The Left has no redeemable soul…

May God have mercy on all of us… We've lost our way..

The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.

Charlie is more powerful now than ever before.

The enemies of God will understand that more clearly soon. Mark this down.


AMEN So be it!
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TresPuertas said:

anyone can argue how they want but the OP is right.

Anti abortion, free speech, biblical marriage, the Perfection of Gods creation. all of Kirk's points were all biblically based. and they hated him and killed him for it.

this was an attack on Christianity


Yup. And I saw Mark Driscoll share a conversation he'd had with Charlie in the last week or two where Charlie was excited to focus less on politics and more on the gospel. He definitely saw it as ministry work
Jason C.
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maroonthrunthru said:


The Left has no redeemable soul…


I think I know what you are trying to say, but this is pretty poor theology! Luke 15:7 says it best. The greater the sinner, the greater the rejoicing in heaven.
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