Henriques said:

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Root cause: Secular Humanism and the destruction of morality and values in favor of leftist nihilism.

Iryna one day. Charlie the next.

The good murdered. The evil celebrated and worshiped.

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Nailed it. Globalist atheism is the core religion that is funding and leading all of these institutions that is entrenching ideology into the minds of millions that there is no morality no human value and no purpose other than immediate self gratification.

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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How did the right turn a blind eye to this?

No doubt you hated him but Charlie Kirk was very well known and loved by millions. A state senator from MN is just not going to get the same outpouring. Sorry.

No Spin Ag said:

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The root cause being the two main issues that are always talked about, the mentally ill and guns? Or something else?

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The people that blame guns ARE mentally ill.

DrEvazanPhD said:

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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Bless your heart...

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I believe that is supposed to be "Bless your little pea picking heart"

N/M.

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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Killed by a Tim Walz political appointee

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Yep. A Tim Walz groupie convinced he was doing what Full Metal Tampon wanted him to do.

That is some Republican there.

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This was known, yet we still have libs here spouting the lie that it was a conservative. You see it all the time. A liberal lie is debunked and yet the libs continue spouting it as fact. A bunch of "my truth" crap.

They also say that Trump ignored that case when he clearly didn't. The left is truly delusional.

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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What blind eye was turned? I seem to recall plenty of folks upset about it. You are a liar.

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Cool, remove the context from what I was replying to (the OP's claim it's the 'left'), and replace it with your strawman to attack. "Let me see what I can pick out... AHA! He's a liar because some posters talked about it!!"

Like that was the damn point. Try to be honest in your replies before calling me a liar. You know what I'm discussing and chose to strawman it. Have a good one.

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Are you talking about the dem state senator in Minnesota that was killed BECAUSE he voted with the Republicans…. Hmmmm….

Not the same. And not the dig you think it is. And definitely not making the point you even remotely think it makes.

And you, complaining about context….

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Henriques said:

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Root cause: Secular Humanism and the destruction of morality and values in favor of leftist nihilism.

Iryna one day. Charlie the next.

The good murdered. The evil celebrated and worshiped.

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Nailed it. Globalist atheism is the core religion that is funding and leading all of these institutions that is entrenching ideology into the minds of millions that there is no morality no human value and no purpose other than immediate self gratification.

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All the more striking when learned in January that Washington D.C. till then was actively exporting it via USA ID.

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Henriques said:

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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Killed by a Tim Walz political appointee

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Yep. A Tim Walz groupie convinced he was doing what Full Metal Tampon wanted him to do.

That is some Republican there.

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This was known, yet we still have libs here spouting the lie that it was a conservative. You see it all the time. A liberal lie is debunked and yet the libs continue spouting it as fact. A bunch of "my truth" crap.

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The attempt to tie the Minnesota killings to a Republican is a sign the Democrats' party over Kirk's murder isn't playing too well around the nation.

Unfortunately, the "Republican" they chose was a fanboy of Tim Walz working in Coach Strap-On's Administration.

They tried earlier to tie this to conservatives. That ended when they discovered the killer believed he was acting on behalf of Walz.

Unbridled celebrations lead to desperate prevarications when the orgy of blood fails to impress those outside the Democrat Party's death cult.

The Democrat Party is a party of blood lust, hatred and filth. Heaven help us opposed to them if we fail to hold them accountable for the crime and death they have unleashed on this nation.

I'm ready to have the conversation…

Satan is the creator of all this evil and chaos…
It's why he exists…

He always will be the root cause… Like it or not…

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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What blind eye was turned? I seem to recall plenty of folks upset about it. You are a liar.

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Cool, remove the context from what I was replying to (the OP's claim it's the 'left'), and replace it with your strawman to attack. "Let me see what I can pick out... AHA! He's a liar because some posters talked about it!!"

Like that was the damn point. Try to be honest in your replies before calling me a liar. You know what I'm discussing and chose to strawman it. Have a good one.

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Are you talking about the dem state senator in Minnesota that was killed BECAUSE he voted with the Republicans…. Hmmmm….

Not the same. And not the dig you think it is. And definitely not making the point you even remotely think it makes.

And you, complaining about context….

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It should also be asked -- Was it *really* turned a blind eye to, even? `Right wing media' did report it--- it wasn't like the subway matter that Ted Cruz drew attention to. All murders should be confirmed as the culprit to make sure not innocent, but then executed. What reaction was really lacking? It is probably left that would fight most to avoid the culprit being dealt with.

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This board isn't ready for that conversation yet

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YET

Colonel Kurtz said:

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This board isn't ready for that conversation yet

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This board is filled with boomers who watch Fox News slop daily. They've been too brainwashed to think outside the framework of lib/conservative and to identify which perpetuators fund and promote the ongoing culture war. Good thing Gen-Z is there to pick up the slack. Hint for the board: y'all aren't right wing enough. And don't call me a leftist/moderate, I can guarantee that us young folk are way further right than any of y'all will ever be.

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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This board isn't ready for that conversation yet

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This board is filled with boomers who watch Fox News slop daily. They've been too brainwashed to think outside the framework of lib/conservative and to identify which perpetuators fund and promote the ongoing culture war. Good thing Gen-Z is there to pick up the slack. Hint for the board: y'all aren't right wing enough. And don't call me a leftist/moderate, I can guarantee that us young folk are way further right than any of y'all will ever be.

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I long for the day when you youngsters call us out for not being right wing enough

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Only one side is getting shot. I wonder about folks like the OP

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Do you believe that or like is that what you'd like to believe? I'M genuinely curious

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Yea, I do. You trying to pin Tampon Tim's guy on the republicans? I'm genuinely curious

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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MattAg84 said:

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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F the left, 99% of it is them

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ETFan said:

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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F the left, 99% of it is them

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Ok. Just know whatever this reaction is you're having, isn't normal or safe. Screaming made up stats to live in some belligerent haze.

This **** was awful. The reaction from the right when we don't even know who shot him is just... wtf.

Dont look at me…I was calling for mental asylums and (humane but bare bones) re-education camps way before it was cool.

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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F the left, 99% of it is them

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Ok. Just know whatever this reaction is you're having, isn't normal or safe. Screaming made up stats to live in some belligerent haze.

This **** was awful. The reaction from the right when we don't even know who shot him is just... wtf.

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30% of yall wanted my children taken away for refusing the stupid vaccine ("But we wanted to give them back once you complied!" - read in a gay voice)
50% wanted me forced into quarantine
90% of you wanted me to lose my job and for my family to suffer immensely

Take it up with Rasmussen. You are the wackjobs.

Peruse this profile on Bluesky for clues.....

https://bsky.app/profile/thenewthinker.bsky.social

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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Crocodile tears.

Care to explain what this was doing in Vance Boelter's vehicle in Minnesota?



Care to explain this?

Your Republican was a Walz Groupie.

Quote:

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Recently I was approached about a project that Tim Walz wanted done,

and _____ and Keith ___ was also aware of the project. Tim wanted

me to kill Amy Klobushar and Tina Tim wants to be a senator

and he doesn't trust ________ to retire as planned and thinks she is

going to stay on at the last minute.

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There was a reason Democrats dropped this lie back in July.

Now you lie about Boelter's motivations after your death cult was caught in party mode after the news broke regarding Kirk.

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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F the left, 99% of it is them

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Ok. Just know whatever this reaction is you're having, isn't normal or safe. Screaming made up stats to live in some belligerent haze.

This **** was awful. The reaction from the right when we don't even know who shot him is just... wtf.

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You whole movement is awful and evil and the young men in this country are fed up.

You support murdering babies. When your ilk wont protect the most innocent..... everyone who is an inconvenience to what your ilk wants and thinks is a target.

There can be NO REAL PEACE with the left......

Leftists are now leaving cruel commenting on Charlie Kirk’s wife latest post

These people are demons

Pray for Erika and their children 🙏 pic.twitter.com/noykQ7yt3d

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) September 10, 2025

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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I knew Melissa Hortman (despite political differences) and CONDEMNED her killing and her killer.

Find me the prominent Conservative who also didn't condemn the killing as well. Meanwhile Destiny and a plethora of well known Leftist online personalities are openly celebrating.

You have no ground to stand on..... I believe that innocent life is valuable from womb to tomb. You do not... your view on whether of not life is precious and should be protected is completely subjective rather than objective. That's why you support abortion/infanticide.

I am enraged at the entirety of your ilk. Stop with your ffffing whataboutisms too.

Henriques said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Henriques said:

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ETFan said:

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Ah yes, blind eye, like the blind eye the right turned on the democrat Minnesota state senators who were murdered along with their families? But whatabouting isn't my goal. All murders or attempts, for political views, any views, is abhorrent and unamerican, full stop.

But maybe, instead of being belligerent towards all democrats, your neighbors, your coworkers, maybe we have a sickness that goes deeper than ****ing politics?

EDIT: 1 R and 1 D senator, not 2 D

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Killed by a Tim Walz political appointee

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Yep. A Tim Walz groupie convinced he was doing what Full Metal Tampon wanted him to do.

That is some Republican there.

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This was known, yet we still have libs here spouting the lie that it was a conservative. You see it all the time. A liberal lie is debunked and yet the libs continue spouting it as fact. A bunch of "my truth" crap.

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The attempt to tie the Minnesota killings to a Republican is a sign the Democrats' party over Kirk's murder isn't playing too well around the nation.

Unfortunately, the "Republican" they chose was a fanboy of Tim Walz working in Coach Strap-On's Administration.

They tried earlier to tie this to conservatives. That ended when they discovered the killer believed he was acting on behalf of Walz.

Unbridled celebrations lead to desperate prevarications when the orgy of blood fails to impress those outside the Democrat Party's death cult.

The Democrat Party is a party of blood lust, hatred and filth. Heaven help us opposed to them if we fail to hold them accountable for the crime and death they have unleashed on this nation.

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Where did you read or hear this stuff about the Minnesota shooter? I'm asking because I watched a live interview with a guy who was his lifelong friend and roommate. The roommate said that the shooter was a Trump supporter and Trump voter. Maybe he used to he a Democrat until Trump came into politics.

Also, I looked into the shooter's involvement with the Walz administration not long after the shooting. The shooter was appointed to the community volunteer board by the governor prior to Walz. Walz has never met the shooter. I've been on volunteer community boards before in towns I've lived in. These groups are generally made up of volunteers. These people aren't movers and shakers in politics. Quite the opposite.

I replied to your comment because one of the problems I see in our country Is that nobody trusts the tv news on either side of the political spectrum. I generally have to read the Wall Street Journal, my local paper, watch the local news, listen to news radio on WBAP and KRLD. I used to watch Tucker when he was on Fox, but now just try to catch Laura Ingraham's show or Hannity when I have time. I also sometines watch NBC or ABC nightly newscasts. I feel like I have to read and watch and listen to all of these different news sources just to be sure I have somewhat of an understanding of what is going on. I want balanced news and it is impossible to get that from one place.

I think we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and an additional type of law/regulation that will fine news outlets for knowingly sharing fake news when it is easy to prove it is fake. That is the only way that our country will be able to get all of the agendas out of the news. Otherwise our country will continue down the toilet.

I also think we have to find a way to get all of the dark money out of politics. I've drifted towards being an independent/libertarian because my beliefs don't currently fit 100% with either GOP or Dems.

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MattAg84 said:

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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You are the liar. The Minnesota couple were killed because they were dems and voted with the R's. Why are you ignoring this…..

And please show me how the Conservatives/Republicans ignored anything. Or were cheering their deaths.

These are not the same.

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ETFan said:

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MattAg84 said:

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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You are the liar. The Minnesota couple were killed because they were dems and voted with the R's. Why are you ignoring this…..

And please show me how the Conservatives/Republicans ignored anything. Or were cheering their deaths.

These are not the same.

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Yeah, they're not the same. The Minnesota shooter has been caught.

Why did you all wait for a shooting to start banging the war drum? It's clear you don't need a reason, just pretext of one.

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I watched a live interview with a guy who was his lifelong friend and roommate. The roommate said that the shooter was a Trump supporter and Trump voter.

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that fat sweaty guy in the papa john's shirt that was interviewed right after the shooting claiming to be his roommate - that was fake news. he didnt know him.

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MattAg84 said:

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It ain't "both sides" doing the shooting here. And his body isn't even cold and we have one side celebrating someone's death so excuse me for not thinking we should all just talk

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It is though, but you keep being a liar to push a harmful narrative!

Rip to Charlie Kirk, Melissa Hortman, John Hoffman and their spouses and Gilbert the golden retriever.

Can't stand a liar.

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I knew Melissa Hortman (despite political differences) and CONDEMNED her killing and her killer.

Find me the prominent Conservative who also didn't condemn the killing as well. Meanwhile Destiny and a plethora of well known Leftist online personalities are openly celebrating.

You have no ground to stand on..... I believe that innocent life is valuable from womb to tomb. You do not... your view on whether of not life is precious and should be protected is completely subjective rather than objective. That's why you support abortion/infanticide.

I am enraged at the entirety of your ilk. Stop with your ffffing whataboutisms too.

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Oh, oh pick me I'll go first!

- President Trump

"I've been briefed, violence is not the answer." Then not another word. That's no condemnation, that's a ****ing email signature, it's pathetic compared to Kirk's response. No flags. No calls to Governers. No mentions of political assassination. No calls to the families.

And oddly, no calls from the left for WAR and violence. This forum is literally drowning in violent rhetoric right now.

I really don't give two damns what some celebrity said. I do care what the top officials in the country do. You're being dupped and used. You'll never see it. And no, I won't stop sharing the stark contrast in the two responses so long as maga is losing its collective minds over this.

The President announced his death. The President went on TV to blame the left before they had a shooter. Tells you everything you need to know.

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No Spin Ag said:

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The root cause being the two main issues that are always talked about, the mentally ill and guns? Or something else?

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The people that blame guns ARE mentally ill.

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A knife, hammer, ice pick, baseball bat, brick, etc can also do the job. It's the person and mental illness, not the tool.

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mslags97 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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The root cause being the two main issues that are always talked about, the mentally ill and guns? Or something else?

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The people that blame guns ARE mentally ill.

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A knife, hammer, ice pick, baseball bat, brick, etc can also do the job. It's the person and mental illness, not the tool.

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Some people are mentally ill so you shouldn't have nice things or rights.


Kidding of course but that's what I a lot of the left's arguments seem to be.

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I watched a live interview with a guy who was his lifelong friend and roommate. The roommate said that the shooter was a Trump supporter and Trump voter.

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that fat sweaty guy in the papa john's shirt that was interviewed right after the shooting claiming to be his roommate - that was fake news. he didnt know him.

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Would you mind sharing where you got that information so I could go take a look at it? That wasn't what I found over the summer when reading about the murders. I looked online again after I read your comment and I still haven't been able to find any newspaper articles or tv news clips that say anything different than what I read after the murders occurred.