Urban Ag said:

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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ts5641 said:

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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Take away the drugs and they will all just drink alcohol. Until a complete overhaul of the addiction recovery system takes place, addiction will continue to be an issue.

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Doesn't mean these POS's shouldn't die for what they're doing.

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Are the friends in your circle that are closet alcoholics POS too worthy of death?

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He meant the cretins floating their trash in to the US. Keep up.

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I apologize. Everything is so well written on this thread, so clear. Dumb of me not to be able to keep up.

I want them to set up bleachers on the border and put on a drone show.

It would be awesome to see them light up the cartels. This is much watch TV.

If they threw in artillery!!!! (insert Vince McMahon gif)

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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I just had some fentanyl yesterday...

I had sinus surgery (F-ESS to be specific) and apparently that's one of the things that was in my anesthesia cocktail...

BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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Unfortunately, I think is correct.

For one, it takes the criminal element out of it. Why buy some sketchy **** from the cartels (which may be laced with who knows what) when you just buy it at the store or get it from the doctor?

Ag with kids said:

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BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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I just had some fentanyl yesterday...

I had sinus surgery (F-ESS to be specific) and apparently that's one of the things that was in my anesthesia cocktail...

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It is in epidurals also. At least it was 2.5 years ago when my wife had our son.

I wonder if they really get into just blasting drug smuggler boats, what the verification process is to guarantee the target is indeed a bunch of drug smugglers. Because drug smugglers will likely disguise their boats to look like something else. Not to mention the other variety of tricks they use such as using container ships while bribing crews and inspectors.

Several decades of experience show that as long as demand stays high in North America for illegal drugs, the suppliers will find a way. It is an almost impossible war to 'win' without addressing the demand side problem somehow.

Gandalf the Maroon said:

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People need Jesus. Until everyone finds him, the addiction problem won't stop. They're trying to fill a hole

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Amen, brother.

Gandalf the Maroon said:

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People need Jesus. Until everyone finds him, the addiction problem won't stop. They're trying to fill a hole

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Man, I know where Jesus be.

He be over on Beck St.

You see him tell him he still owe me $20.

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Makes me think of the movie The Deep.

Anyone up for scuba diving with me?

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are you Jacqueline Bisset? If so, then the answer is a resounding yes!

Y'all still think this is about the war on drugs? It's not. That's just the excuse.

This is about securing valuable natural resources closer to home during a time of global decoupling. For example, why go to the Middle East for oil when we can just force a US friendly regime change in Venezuela under the guise of fighting drugs and cartels?

And don't tell me that doesn't work due to the differences in their crude vs our refining capabilities. That can be overcome.

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Y'all still think this is about the war on drugs? It's not. That's just the excuse.

This is about securing valuable natural resources closer to home during a time of global decoupling. For example, why go to the Middle East for oil when we can just force a US friendly regime change in Venezuela under the guise of fighting drugs and cartels?

And don't tell me that doesn't work due to the differences in their crude vs our refining capabilities. That can be overcome.

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Yes - follow the money.

In the last 4 years - Some powerful folks in the U.S. very high up were making a TON of money off of drugs and human trafficking. All of this "democrats won't admit there is a problem Biden is so stupid" was misguided because there WASN'T a problem if you were one of these folks making the money. If the pockets in power were not being lined...it would have stopped.

Like USAID, Trump is shutting down their money train.

This is classic. Wonder how much USAID the ol boy was pulling in ?

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Until a complete overhaul of the addiction recovery system takes place, addiction will continue to be an issue.

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Overhauled until it looks like what? Or where?

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

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Take away the drugs and they will all just drink alcohol. Until a complete overhaul of the addiction recovery system takes place, addiction will continue to be an issue.

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Humans have been using substances that alter their state of mind/reality for millennia. Nothing is going to change that, it's literally wired in our DNA that when something makes you feel good you want more of it.

A lot of substances fall into that category, and even if you found a way to eliminate stripper dust completely from the earth, something else will take its place and fill the void.

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BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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Unfortunately, I think is correct.

For one, it takes the criminal element out of it. Why buy some sketchy **** from the cartels (which may be laced with who knows what) when you just buy it at the store or get it from the doctor?

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Dan Patrick will be coming for you now after saying this.

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carl spacklers hat said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Psycho Bunny said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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I would love nothing better than to stop all illegal drug use in this country but as others have pointed out, it won't happen from cutting off the supply. We have been fighting the war on drugs since Reagan and it hasn't ever resulted in a shortage of drugs. According to some people I know who work in the prison systems, we can't even come close to keeping it out of there.

If you up the street price, the addicts will still do whatever it takes to get their fix even if that means increasing their illegal activities. The best way to fight drugs is to try to reduce the number of addicts and I don't have any idea how to really do that on a mass scale.

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War drugs is a farce. PCP was used on our military guys in the 50s and 60s. CIA brought in cocaine by the tons in the 80s. Opium was non existent till the CIA went in Afghanistan in the early 2000s. It's a billion dollar industry that even Susan Bake oven makes a couple of thousand being a drug mule while taking little Johnny to soccer practice. Todays drug is fentanyl. One little pill and your world will change for ever. That crap is being put into everything to maximize profit. Like I said in my post above. Drug dealers can't sell if all their customers are dead.

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Ummm....

Heroin is made from opium and it's been around a LONG time...

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Yep. OSS got into it during WWII and the CIA kicked it up a notch during Nam. People don't know how involved US elements are in the drug trade.

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You're about 10,000 years off.
Opium has been around since before the pyramids were built. LONG before then.

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I'm talking about domestic (US) involvement in the opium trade.

BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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How well has that worked with pot?

BREAKING: Biden-appointed federal judge Tsotetsi Pipinyana Pampoen has ordered the Trump administration to retrieve all pieces of the drone-striked narcoterrorists from the sea and perform the ancient ritual of T’apwitemombasi to bring them back to life, and buy them a new boat pic.twitter.com/OicoQzE6Nz

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 3, 2025

https://t.co/m1W7nfiJQw pic.twitter.com/k1Y6ZyPfPG

— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) September 3, 2025

Blow up their boats, shoot down their planes, drone the cartel leadership and members. Over and over again.

When will cartels come after illegal growers ?

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BBRex said:

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Fdsa said:

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fullback44 said:

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I was talking about Narcos that see this video of their buddy's getting smoked - future boat drivers

But yeah those on that boat never saw that coming

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agree, lots of narcos evaluating their career choice right now.

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No they aren't. The brutal torture and mass graves full of mutilated bodies hasn't slowed the number of men willing to join Mexico's cartels. Why would a relatively painless death out of nowhere be a deterrent?

Fentanyl is fine example of what happens when you tighten the enforcement of drugs. Our pharmaceutical industry hooked so many people on opioids. Those addicts were bounced from prescriptions and turned to heroin. This led to law enforcement targeting heroin, which reduced supply. Fentanyl becomes a major issues as it becomes a replacement for heroin. It's cheap and quickly finds other uses. And the fentanyl problem is likely worse than the heroin problem it replaced.

I know it's unpopular, but legalizing drugs and funding treatment centers is a much better solution to this problem.

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How well has that worked with pot?

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They can't keep a lid on it?

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When will cartels come after illegal growers ?

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They will and also legal growers. If it hurts their supply and money they will off them like they do with everyone else.

Should've done the same thing to Purdue Pharma execs.

I'm on Team Gus Fring and Heisenberg on this one... get rid of the cartels and make it in America Baby (with the help of big business)!

Another.

🚨 BREAKING: The US Coast Guard has just BLOWN UP a boat carrying drugs bound for the United States

The Trump admin is NOT playing nice with narcoterrorists

It’s about time! 🔥

This will save COUNTLESS American lives. pic.twitter.com/LlNkBtFdYq

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) September 9, 2025

Update: coast guard takes down another one, after seizing the cocaine and arresting the occupants. Operation Pacific Viper.

ASMR: @USCG captures, burns, and sinks a drug boat.

Over the weekend, as part of Operation Pacific Viper, the @USCG Cutter Stone conducted three interdictions in a single night—seizing nearly 13,000 pounds of cocaine and apprehending seven suspected drug smugglers. pic.twitter.com/wHRGUGYtTw

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) September 9, 2025

If this doesn't warm your heart, you must be a democrat.

nortex97 said:

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Update: coast guard takes down another one, after seizing the cocaine and arresting the occupants. Operation Pacific Viper.

ASMR: @USCG captures, burns, and sinks a drug boat.

Over the weekend, as part of Operation Pacific Viper, the @USCG Cutter Stone conducted three interdictions in a single night—seizing nearly 13,000 pounds of cocaine and apprehending seven suspected drug smugglers. pic.twitter.com/wHRGUGYtTw

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) September 9, 2025

If this doesn't warm your heart, you must be a democrat.

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I hope no fish were harmed.

Cocaine Shark coming soon.

Keep pounding the hell out of them. Make life miserable for the Maduran drug cartels

Another...

pic.twitter.com/gqH4MHjbg2

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) September 15, 2025

What a waste of a perfectly good Panga

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Update: coast guard takes down another one, after seizing the cocaine and arresting the occupants

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Damn.













I was hoping the Coast Guard would let the sharks take care of 'em.