US hits Drug boat off of Venezuela

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The Fall Guy
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-drug-boat-us-strike/
How efficient is this going to be. Are we hitting ships out of Columbia, Panama, Mexico, All of the Caribbean?

I am all for killing Narcos but there is
Supply and Demand. US is the number 1 demand of Drugs.

Only way to stop the flow is mass deaths of our drug addicts. Sorry it's the truth.
Deerdude
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Would not mass withdrawal accomplish the same thing.
American Hardwood
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Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
The Fall Guy
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American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.


Drugs are actually pretty cheap to make. It costs to send. I just want to see all ships that we find hit but that is virtually impossible.
The Fall Guy
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Deerdude said:

Would not mass withdrawal accomplish the same thing.


Who is paying for that?
VP at Pierce and Pierce
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Take away the drugs and they will all just drink alcohol. Until a complete overhaul of the addiction recovery system takes place, addiction will continue to be an issue.
flown-the-coop
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American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.

Bruh, you can make it expensive as you want and some dude if going to make the next alternative and get folks hooked for years before LEOs and the DEA catch up.

See the stories about the guys who made X, fentanyl, meth, etc. Friggin genius chemists who Heisenberg the stuff.

Researching the least harmful ways for people to get high is much more effective than anything else. Better drugs, not less drugs.
The Fall Guy
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Take away the drugs and they will all just drink alcohol. Until a complete overhaul of the addiction recovery system takes place, addiction will continue to be an issue.



Yep good point
Urban Ag
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The Fall Guy said:

American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.


Drugs are actually pretty cheap to make. It costs to send. I just want to see all ships that we find hit but that is virtually impossible.

Ah. Let's just give up. Gotcha.
bobbranco
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The Fall Guy said:

Only way to stop the flow is mass deaths of our drug addicts. Sorry it's the truth.


Unlimited flow of narcotics. You are too late. Biden already tried that.
tysker
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did you say it took a hit off a Venezuelan drug boat?

The Fall Guy
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Urban Ag said:

The Fall Guy said:

American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.


Drugs are actually pretty cheap to make. It costs to send. I just want to see all ships that we find hit but that is virtually impossible.

Ah. Let's just give up. Gotcha.


Who said give up? I said take away the demand.
bobbranco
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So kill the drug addicts?

Give me some of what you're smokin'.
The Fall Guy
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bobbranco said:

So kill the drug addicts?

Give me some of what you're smokin'.


Hey I am a realist. I can dream the only solution.
LouisvilleAg
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Legalize it and tax it. That debt will get paid off quick.
Tramp96
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I was this many years old when I first heard the term "narco-terrorist".
Gandalf the Maroon
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People need Jesus. Until everyone finds him, the addiction problem won't stop. They're trying to fill a hole
"I am going fishing" - John 21:3
Urban Ag
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so you're just trolling?

not a very good troll.
Deerdude
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The Fall Guy said:

Deerdude said:

Would not mass withdrawal accomplish the same thing.


Who is paying for that?


The usual same folks that would pay for funerals in your scenario, I guess.
FCBlitz
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The Fall Guy said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-drug-boat-us-strike/
How efficient is this going to be. Are we hitting ships out of Columbia, Panama, Mexico, All of the Caribbean?

I am all for killing Narcos but there is
Supply and Demand. US is the number 1 demand of Drugs.

Only way to stop the flow is mass deaths of our drug addicts. Sorry it's the truth.


There really is no way to say this…..except bluntly. You really aren't that smart are you?

Read what you wrote and see if your own writings can answer your question.
Apollo79
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LOL OP has an issue with this.
Apollo79
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Urban Ag said:

so you're just trolling?

not a very good troll.

Apollo79
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FCBlitz said:

The Fall Guy said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-drug-boat-us-strike/
How efficient is this going to be. Are we hitting ships out of Columbia, Panama, Mexico, All of the Caribbean?

I am all for killing Narcos but there is
Supply and Demand. US is the number 1 demand of Drugs.

Only way to stop the flow is mass deaths of our drug addicts. Sorry it's the truth.


There really is no way to say this…..except bluntly. You really aren't that smart are you?

Read what you wrote and see if your own writings can answer your question.

American Hardwood
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flown-the-coop said:

American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.

Bruh, you can make it expensive as you want and some dude if going to make the next alternative and get folks hooked for years before LEOs and the DEA catch up.

See the stories about the guys who made X, fentanyl, meth, etc. Friggin genius chemists who Heisenberg the stuff.

Researching the least harmful ways for people to get high is much more effective than anything else. Better drugs, not less drugs.

How much of that is produced locally vs. imported? The fentanyl is from China, no? Sink ships until there is none left to sink.

Don't sound like the guy that said you'll never stop illegal immigration or mass deport illegals, just to see it happen. It only takes the will to do it.
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
Ragoo
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LouisvilleAg said:

Legalize it and tax it. That debt will get paid off quick.
yes good sir. One marijuana joint. That will be 22.50 plus tax. Paying with card. Perfect.

Legalization and taxation isn't going to take drugs off of the street. It is too ingrained into culture to buy drugs off the street. You aren't going to get rid of the thug street level distributor.

Not sure how you pull an addict off the street without denying a right.
The Fall Guy
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Urban Ag said:

so you're just trolling?

not a very good troll.


You see that is where you and I differ. Its not trolling if that is the solution. We seem things in a different light
13B
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LouisvilleAg said:

Legalize it and tax it. That debt will get paid off quick.

How's that working out for MJ?
Actual Talking Thermos
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13B said:

LouisvilleAg said:

Legalize it and tax it. That debt will get paid off quick.

How's that working out for MJ?
Fantastic, despite alarmism
HollywoodBQ
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American Hardwood said:

Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.

Making the drug expensive only slows consumption or abuse a little bit.

I recently went to an all you can eat and all you can drink event at SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles.

The "price" per drink is now over $17 for a 12 ounce Stadium beer.

Did the price slow the demand? Not much if any.


But, the one thing that killed off my desire to abuse alcohol was the lack of servers and the processing time for the available servers.

I could get a $17 beer "for free" but, I had to wait in a 10-15 minute long line to get a "free" beer.

As a result, over the course of 3 quarters of a preseason NFL game, I was only able to manage about 5 drinks. If I was getting adequate service, I might have had 10 drinks - even at $17/beer.


Killing the supply is one part.
Decreasing demand is another part.

What I observed at SoFi was, if you severely limit the distribution, that can have a strong effect on killing off demand because people won't want to jump through all the hoops to get a "free" drug.
Ag_of_08
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It's not that much more expensive to produce local, it's just riskier to do it when you don't have govt run labs
Charpie
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Saw the chatter on twitter about US ships heading towards Venezuela over the weekend.

Take them all down. But they are like snakes, cut one head off and another one spawns up.
IndividualFreedom
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Making people not want drugs is very difficult. Making drugs very expensive to abuse is a lot easier to accomplish.

I agree with you but could an unintended consequence be increased crime/robbery/theft to help pay for the increased cost illegal drugs?
Urban Ag
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So the US military just took out a drug boat that sailed from Venezuela. It's not clear if the Navy took it out ship to ship or maybe the AF via a drove. Either way the boat is blown to bits in what is being described as a "lethal" and "precision" hit.

Anyone really think that is not a deterrent?

Trump declared the narcos are terrorist organizations and he's treating them as such.
AggieMac06
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I need video dangit!
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Apollo79
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Actual Talking Thermos said:

13B said:

LouisvilleAg said:

Legalize it and tax it. That debt will get paid off quick.

How's that working out for MJ?

Fantastic, despite alarmism

actually its not working out like they thought.
 
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