Stars caution against going too woke on new Bond film

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G Martin 87
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ts5641 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

If the next Bond better be a heterosexual white male, or James Bond as we know it will be dead. And Daniel Craig will be known as the last "TRUE" James Bond.

You know they'll slip something in there to fuel their woke desire. One of the leads will be gay or a trans will be a part of it. They simply can't help themselves.
Already happened. Wint and Kidd were gay. Raoul Silva was gay. They turned Q gay.
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Aglaw97 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

If the next Bond better be a heterosexual white male, or James Bond as we know it will be dead. And Daniel Craig will be known as the last "TRUE" James Bond.

He doesn't have to be white but he has to be a heterosexual male. Idris Elba would be a great Bond although he's a little past his prime to play the role very long.
If Elba is past his prime and couldn't handle doing multiple movies, then he wouldn't be a "great" Bond, black or not.
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I don't mind if the next Bond is black.

What about Idris Elba?
Prosperdick
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IndividualFreedom said:

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I don't mind if the next Bond is black.

What about Idris Elba?

Stringer Bell era Elba would be great...but he's in his 50's now and he will quickly age out of the role.

Roger Moore was in his late 50's in View to a Kill and it definitely showed. After that they moved on to Timothy Dalton.
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IndividualFreedom said:

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I don't mind if the next Bond is black.

What about Idris Elba?


He would be perfect but he's too old at this point. It's my understanding they would want someone who can take on the role for 15 years and Elba would be in his 60's by then. It will be someone 30 or younger.
No Spin Ag
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James Bond is a white Englishman. End of Story.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
No Spin Ag
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

IndividualFreedom said:

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I don't mind if the next Bond is black.

What about Idris Elba?


He would be perfect but he's too old at this point. It's my understanding they would want someone who can take on the role for 15 years and Elba would be in his 60's by then. It will be someone 30 or younger.

Ditto with Idris being perfect in his prime, but unfortunately for the world, he's too old.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Gaeilge said:

Next Bond is likely going to be Aaron-Taylor Johnson. Young enough to carry the franchise for 20yrs and a pretty popular actor that can bring in a younger demographic.


He is an incredible actor. His work in Nocturnal Animals was nothing short of elite acting.
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I don't think it would bother me personally to have a black Bond. So long as the character is male. Even some of the sexual ambiguity (which they ever so deftly touched on in Sky Fall) doesn't bother me. Bond is a killer who would **** damn near anyone, men or women, to get what he wants/needs for the mission.

As mentioned above, it seems Aaron Taylor Johnson is the odds on favorite, but if they do go with a black actor, my vote goes to Rege-Jean Page. He's still 37, so young enough to carry the role for a decade plus, and some of his roles show he has an edge and isn't just a pretty face.

I read some people that wanted Damson Idris after F1 came out. He's a damn good actor and I like him a lot but don't think he's Bond.


And as mentioned repeatedly, Idris Elba is too old now. If he was the guy, they should have picked him when they selected Craig instead.
No Spin Ag
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Gaeilge said:

Next Bond is likely going to be Aaron-Taylor Johnson. Young enough to carry the franchise for 20yrs and a pretty popular actor that can bring in a younger demographic.


He is an incredible actor. His work in Nocturnal Animals was nothing short of elite acting.

He would be a great choice. They could take the franchise even further into a more aggressive Bond as well with him.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Why change Bond to a woman?
Why not just create a brand new female character?

Do you see the trend here? Women don't want to create anything new and take a chance of it being a failure (or a success). They see what men have created being a success, and demand a share of that as that makes them feel they can get the success without the struggle.

Why can't a rich female producer create a new female character and make a movie? If people like it, yay they make money. Else they lose money. I won't be surprised if the usual suspects (rich old white men) allow this nonsense and damage to the JB brand.
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Kozmozag said:

Bond should do a origin story next, a teen age bond and how he is raised by adopted dad. Probably could do two films to get back to new grown bond.
they already did this in the 90s

G Martin 87
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They did it in the 60s, right after the success of Goldfinger and a bunch of other Bond knockoffs. It didn't work then either.




There has never been and never will be a successful female spy movie franchise like Bond, and it's not for lack of trying. Dozens of spy/action movies introducing female leads have been produced for decades. Some have been very good. But the box office just isn't there. That's why making Bond female is a bad idea. It will be an expensive flop.
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Thonk that's something the militants are missing. Race/gender etc swapping a character is usually fine if the actor/actress significantly improves the movie or storytelling.

Its forcing it to be edgy that's the problem, especially when its a **** actress
SunrayAg
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One of the things that bothers me about the push to make every action movie have a female lead, is the believability of the action.

Sure. That 110 pound woman with a 24 inch waist just one punch knocked out that 250 pound dude, and kicked the other one through a brick wall. Mmm Kay. That's believable…
Prosperdick
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Ghostbusters was a perfect example. That movie was objectively AWFUL with an all-female cast and they cried "sexists hate it!"

No, it was a bad movie and it sucked. Many of the same actresses were in Bridesmaids and that movie was funny as s***. No sexists were criticizing that movie. Funny is funny, you can't fake it.
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Thought of this thread when I saw this. Thank you Glen Powell for an honest response on who should play Bond.

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Though Glen Powell has taken on many roles, there's one he's staying far away from.
During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, the 36-year-old actor who is currently promoting his upcoming sports comedy series "Chad Powers" explained why he "should not" be cast as the next James Bond.
"I'm Texan. A Texan should not play James Bond," he said. "My family and I joke around, I can play Jimmy Bond, but I should not be playing James Bond."
"Get an authentic Brit for that job," he added. "That's who belongs in that tuxedo."






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SunrayAg said:

They can all rot for what they did to Bond in the last movie.

James Bond doesn't die. He saves the world, kills the bad guy, makes a smartass quip about it, and sails away with one of the most beautiful women in the world… naked.

I've seen every Bond movie many multiple times. Except for the last one. Watched it once and never will again.

Still haven't seen the last one for this exact reason.
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Aglaw97 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

If the next Bond better be a heterosexual white male, or James Bond as we know it will be dead. And Daniel Craig will be known as the last "TRUE" James Bond.

He doesn't have to be white but he has to be a heterosexual male. Idris Elba would be a great Bond although he's a little past his prime to play the role very long.

Ah yes...MI6 is known to have the true native Brits: subsaharan africans
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No Spin Ag said:

James Bond is a white Englishman. End of Story.

agwrestler
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Henry Cavill





....and Sydney Sweeney as the next Bond Girl.
LMCane
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SunrayAg said:

They can all rot for what they did to Bond in the last movie.

James Bond doesn't die. He saves the world, kills the bad guy, makes a smartass quip about it, and sails away with one of the most beautiful women in the world… naked.

I've seen every Bond movie many multiple times. Except for the last one. Watched it once and never will again.


but that was because Daniel Craig wanted out of ever playing Bond again.


they had to pay him a motherlode just to get him to do "No Time to Die" and pretty sure in the contract it stipulated he would be killed off.
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Wish I had more stars to give.
I don't need your help or your pity. I already have a mother and a therapist. That's enough torture, even for me
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the most cool guy said:

If they want a spy franchise where the protagonist is something different than what he is by definition based on the source material, then they should make a new spy franchise, not ruin a good one that already exists.

Off topic, but I felt the exact same way when Tom Cruise purchased the Jack Reacher franchise and then insisted on playing Reacher.

I simply wasn't going to watch a Reacher movie where the original 6'5", 250 pound bruiser was actually a 50 year old, 5'7", 170 lb wannabe. I know some folks think they were good movies, but....



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Kozmozag said:

Bond should do a origin story next, a teen age bond and how he is raised by adopted dad. Probably could do two films to get back to new grown bond.

I would like to know more about his summers in Rangoon.
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agwrestler said:

Henry Cavill





....and Sydney Sweeney as the next Bond Girl.
How about Alicia Vikander instead? Because The Man From U.N.C.L.E. is actually pretty awesome for a non-Bond movie.
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Want a black Bond? Start another ******* franchise. It is not true to Fleming's vision. It drives me insane when the woke lefties in Hollyweird feel the need to insert black characters in historical movies, particularly if they are allegedly biographical and historically accurate. No, I do NOT believe Queen Elizabeth I's favourite lady-in-waiting was black, or that there were multiple black noblemen running around the halls of the Peterhof Palace n the 1700's.

I realize that Bond is fictional, but why completely upend the franchise to make a political statement?
Ferg
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He's from Scotland so he's actually Celtic.
Urban Ag
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Agree with you. If you want whoever being represented, come up with something new. People will watch if its good. Did Eddie Murphy not prove this in the 80's?
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I'm convinced after the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

dude was great in that.

and it would be perfect because in that he played the character Bond was based on.

i've just convinced myself. it's settled for me. Cavill for Bond
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