is this Anti-Semitic?

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Keyno
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

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BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense
Kvetch
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense


I'm not defending the individual. If he is guilty of what he is accused of, he should hang. Just like every pedophile, whether Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, or atheist.

If your whole point was what you just claimed, you would've made one post to that effect and left it at that. But given that the only posts you make are anti-Israel, anti-Jew screeds, it's not hard to read between the lines. Your reputation precedes you.
Keyno
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense


I'm not defending the individual. If he is guilty of what he is accused of, he should hang. Just like every pedophile, whether Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, or atheist.

If your whole point was what you just claimed, you would've made one post to that effect and left it at that. But given that the only posts you make are anti-Israel, anti-Jew screeds, it's not hard to read between the lines. Your reputation precedes you.

Nah dude I just understand Israeli extradition policy and have a problem with child predators. Sadly, this man will not face justice
Phatbob
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense

Funny, you've managed to make sure you include "Jewish" in every one of your posts, even when it isn't necessary. Doesn't seem relevant, here, but you keep doing it. Odd given the argument is supposed to be that it's a critique of a nation, not of the people.
Kvetch
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense


I'm not defending the individual. If he is guilty of what he is accused of, he should hang. Just like every pedophile, whether Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, or atheist.

If your whole point was what you just claimed, you would've made one post to that effect and left it at that. But given that the only posts you make are anti-Israel, anti-Jew screeds, it's not hard to read between the lines. Your reputation precedes you.

Nah dude I just understand Israeli extradition policy and have a problem with child predators. Sadly, this man will not face justice


Yes, it is sad if he evades justice. Guess we can agree upon that.
Keyno
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Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense

Funny, you've managed to make sure you include "Jewish" in every one of your posts, even when it isn't necessary. Doesn't seem relevant, here, but you keep doing it. Odd given the argument is supposed to be that it's a critique of a nation, not of the people.

The jewish man fled to the jewish state, where he will escape justice. I consider that relevant. If you don't, disregard
Keyno
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

BlackGold said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

I'm sure he will not escape justice, but it does happen... all over the world. It's not an Israel thing, it happens sometimes when people go to different countries when they run afoul of the law in another. The usual lot of people here DO make it about Israel when it does happen though, so that part isn't shocking.

I don't understand why you are running cover so hard. Israel will not extradite. It is what it is. Its 2025, everyone except the GOP boomers know whats going on with israel.

I'm sure if you post enough, you'll eventually convince us all to be suspicious of the Jews, too.

You keep conflating Jews with Israel. No one is saying Jews are bad, but Israel... they are no saint. The state of Israel has done terrible things (just like most governments) and harboring Israeli pedophiles is something they continue to do. That is not anti-semitic sentiment. That is a fact.


If this thread existed in a vacuum, you'd have a point. Not a valid one, as I don't see Israel harboring pedophiles any more than any other country (it's sick, but it happens everywhere and it is a function, in part, of intergovernmental legal intricacies). But this is, apparently, the newest in the weekly "Israel bad" thread, where the same group, of Catholics for some reason which makes this thread ironic given the recent issues with that exact problem in the Vatican, decide to declare Israel the biggest Satan in the world.

There is no "enemy of my enemy" too icky to take the side of, whether it is Iran or Hamas, and there is no intellectual curiosity or basic skepticism needed to apply to any anti-Israel story. You can get a good sense of how posters come to their conclusions the more they post, and there is a theme for what a lot of posters here really care about. So no, Israel is no saint, but the same posters here that are "just pointing it out" are willing to ignore all alternatives and context, take some very questionable positions, and have lost any illusions of being "concerned about xxxx". The cards have already been played.

You are doing relativism and whataboutism. This thread is discussing a specific jewish individual who got arrested and charged for soliciting sex with a minor. He posted bail and fled to israel.

Israel is actually known for harboring jews escaping justice. They do not extradite. This is kind of a unique thing when you consider that they are our greatest ally


It's one thing to discuss the merits of Israel's general non-extradition policy, which has a legitimate historical basis for existence. There are definitely significant negative externalities to that policy like dual citizens evading arrest in foreign countries. It's another thing to say the Jews are intentionally harboring pedophiles, with the implication being that they support the pedophiles.

Israel is the self proclaimed jewish state, The Jewish man being discussed in this thread fled to Israel, where he will escape justice. We can dance around the wording all day long but thats the facts.


So why don't you just say what you want to say and stop dancing around it? You're implying that Israel's non-extradition policy is intended to harbor pedophiles, not that it is an evil abuse of a policy that exists because of historic animosity toward the Jews by foreign nations.

There are people that abuse the protections of every nation to escape justice. So again, if you wanted to have an honest debate about the pros and cons of their non-extradition policy, that would be an interesting discussion. The "point" your dancing around here is just another in your long line of vitriolic opinions about the Jews and Israel.

I have been saying what I want to say for this entire thread. I'm not implying anything. I am telling you factual information. Tom Alexandrovich, a jewish israeli, was arrested and charged with soliciting the child for sex. He made bail and fled to israel, where he will escape justice. I'm not interested in the pros and cons of extradition. I want child predators in jail. Not sure why you are doing defense


I'm not defending the individual. If he is guilty of what he is accused of, he should hang. Just like every pedophile, whether Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, or atheist.

If your whole point was what you just claimed, you would've made one post to that effect and left it at that. But given that the only posts you make are anti-Israel, anti-Jew screeds, it's not hard to read between the lines. Your reputation precedes you.

Nah dude I just understand Israeli extradition policy and have a problem with child predators. Sadly, this man will not face justice


Yes, it is sad if he evades justice. Guess we can agree upon that.

Finally. We agree
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Keyno said:



So several theories thrown on this thread based on him being Jewish have been debunked. Israel had nothing to do with it, and no one in charge pushed for him to be released based on their Israeli handlers.

This is my shocked face.
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Phatbob said:

Keyno said:



So several theories thrown on this thread based on him being Jewish have been debunked. Israel had nothing to do with it, and no one in charge pushed for him to be released based on their Israeli handlers.

This is my shocked face.

I don't think you're understanding the argument being made. The time for Israel to act is now. They need to send him back to us to face judgement.
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Quo Vadis? said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:



So several theories thrown on this thread based on him being Jewish have been debunked. Israel had nothing to do with it, and no one in charge pushed for him to be released based on their Israeli handlers.

This is my shocked face.

I don't think you're understanding the argument being made. The time for Israel to act is now. They need to send him back to us to face judgement.

I want him to face justice as much as anyone, but there's more than just that at stake. They never should have let him go, and that is on us. If Israel does a special case extradition, that sets up a precedent. They have a non-extradition policy as a state for a reason. This may look bad for them, but following through may have worse consequences long term. Unlike the US, Israel doesn't have the margin of error for poor tradeoffs when it comes to long term survival.
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Phatbob said:

Quo Vadis? said:

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So several theories thrown on this thread based on him being Jewish have been debunked. Israel had nothing to do with it, and no one in charge pushed for him to be released based on their Israeli handlers.

This is my shocked face.

I don't think you're understanding the argument being made. The time for Israel to act is now. They need to send him back to us to face judgement.

I want him to face justice as much as anyone, but there's more than just that at stake. They never should have let him go, and that is on us. If Israel does a special case extradition, that sets up a precedent. They have a non-extradition policy as a state for a reason. This may look bad for them, but following through may have worse consequences long term. Unlike the US, Israel doesn't have the margin of error for poor tradeoffs when it comes to long term survival.

What possible reason could they have not to extradite criminals to the United States, who has given them a quarter of a trillion dollars since their founding?
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Never will cease to amaze me how many of the GOP have become content with being Israel's lapdog
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Quo Vadis? said:

Phatbob said:

Quo Vadis? said:

Phatbob said:

Keyno said:



So several theories thrown on this thread based on him being Jewish have been debunked. Israel had nothing to do with it, and no one in charge pushed for him to be released based on their Israeli handlers.

This is my shocked face.

I don't think you're understanding the argument being made. The time for Israel to act is now. They need to send him back to us to face judgement.

I want him to face justice as much as anyone, but there's more than just that at stake. They never should have let him go, and that is on us. If Israel does a special case extradition, that sets up a precedent. They have a non-extradition policy as a state for a reason. This may look bad for them, but following through may have worse consequences long term. Unlike the US, Israel doesn't have the margin of error for poor tradeoffs when it comes to long term survival.

What possible reason could they have not to extradite criminals to the United States, who has given them a quarter of a trillion dollars since their founding?

Looking into the details, they aren't entirely non-extradition with the US. I don't know what the exact criteria is, it may be that he will get sent back. We'll see.
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Statement from the Nevada US Attorney:

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"Don't blame me for this guy leaving the country! I'm just a lowly United States Attorney!"

I'm Gipper
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In the replies of that tweet people are posting what appears to he her old burner which has since been deleted. Dunno who actually let the pedo leave.



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PaulsBunions said:



In the replies of that tweet people are posting what appears to he her old burner which has since been deleted. Dunno who actually let the pedo leave.





No man can serve two masters.
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You guys will buy anything. A person's biases are obvious by what they believe at face value with no critical thinking.
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Who is buying what exactly here? This seems like a vague "I am enlightened and you are sheep" type comment lol
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BlackGold said:

It's been an unknown-known for a while that Israel is so keen on protecting their own, they will harbor pedos with an Israeli passport, with no extradition and no punishment. So this is just par for the course.

To be fair France didn't care much about an actual conviction here for Polanski (sex with a 13 year old), so maybe it's not just an Israel thing.
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Do I have to spell out that an account called "Israel Exposed" pumping out straight up lies like "This person decided not to prosecute", when absolutely no one made that decision is biased?

If you can't look at that straight up propaganda dancing in your face and recognize it for what it is, then you need to stop looking at social media altogether.
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Why are you carrying so much water for these pedophiles?
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Why are you carrying so much water for these pedophiles?

Having the ability to see a local screwup for what it is and not going down a rabbit hole to find a way to blame the Jews is not "carrying water for pedophiles".
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Phatbob said:

Do I have to spell out that an account called "Israel Exposed" pumping out straight up lies like "This person decided not to prosecute", when absolutely no one made that decision is biased?

If you can't look at that straight up propaganda dancing in your face and recognize it for what it is, then you need to stop looking at social media altogether.


I'm posting the attorney's statement and the replies, the whole point of this thread is questioning why we let a pedophile flee to Israel, and it just so happens the US attorney for that state was born in Israel and allegedly made pro Israel statements on a burner account. The Attorney says an unnamed DA is responsible so we'll have to see who that DA is to find the culprit. No need to get upset about it.
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PaulsBunions said:

Phatbob said:

Do I have to spell out that an account called "Israel Exposed" pumping out straight up lies like "This person decided not to prosecute", when absolutely no one made that decision is biased?

If you can't look at that straight up propaganda dancing in your face and recognize it for what it is, then you need to stop looking at social media altogether.


I'm posting the attorney's statement and the replies, the whole point of this thread is questioning why we let a pedophile flee to Israel, and it just so happens the US attorney for that state was born in Israel and allegedly made pro Israel statements on a burner account. The Attorney says an unnamed DA is responsible so we'll have to see who that DA is to find the culprit. No need to get upset about it.

Again, you're posting this as evidence of those claims, which the only thing so far is "We found a Jew in the chain somewhere" and hiding behind "someone said it, let's see" as if it has any sort of merit. The internet is full of crap that will verify your biases, no matter what it is, and it's obvious which biases are looking to be confirmed here.
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Phatbob said:

PaulsBunions said:

Phatbob said:

Do I have to spell out that an account called "Israel Exposed" pumping out straight up lies like "This person decided not to prosecute", when absolutely no one made that decision is biased?

If you can't look at that straight up propaganda dancing in your face and recognize it for what it is, then you need to stop looking at social media altogether.


I'm posting the attorney's statement and the replies, the whole point of this thread is questioning why we let a pedophile flee to Israel, and it just so happens the US attorney for that state was born in Israel and allegedly made pro Israel statements on a burner account. The Attorney says an unnamed DA is responsible so we'll have to see who that DA is to find the culprit. No need to get upset about it.

Again, you're posting this as evidence of those claims, which the only thing so far is "We found a Jew in the chain somewhere" and hiding behind "someone said it, let's see" as if it has any sort of merit. The internet is full of crap that will verify your biases, no matter what it is, and it's obvious which biases are looking to be confirmed here.


It wasn't "some jew in the chain somewhere", it was the acting US Attorney in the District of Nevada. Seems more like you're leaping to the conclusion that I am simply biased for posting their statement and the replies. Did I not give her the benefit of the doubt by saying she should name the Liberal DA that let the pedophile leave?
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You chose those specific replies to post, maybe you could expound on the choice to do that. What purpose do those particular replies, of all the ones available, serve?
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Phatbob said:

You chose those specific replies to post, maybe you could expound on the choice to do that. What purpose do those particular replies, of all the ones available, serve?


Sure, I posted them to show her prior Pro-Israel statements and to show that she is an Israeli citizen. When an Israeli pedophile flees to Israel, and the US Attorney for that state is an Israeli, are we not allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? If some Somalian pedophile was allowed to flee back to Somalia, and the US attorney was Somalian, would we be allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? You aren't going to guilt trip me into not questioning the motives of somebody in the government.
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how many lies in one post are allowed?

let's see:

U.S. State Dept - Near Eastern Affairs

@StateDept_NEA

The Department of State is aware that Tom Artiom Alexandrovich, an Israeli citizen, was arrested in Las Vegas.

and given a court date for charges related to soliciting sex electronically from a minor.

He did not claim diplomatic immunity.

and WAS RELEASED BY A STATE JUDGE pending a court date.

Any claims that the U.S. government intervened are false.. He did not "flee" to Israel.

again- notice how anti-semites focus on ONE case of ONE arrest (not even a conviction) in a country of 330 million people-

with 1,230,100 million people in American prisons.
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PaulsBunions said:

Phatbob said:

You chose those specific replies to post, maybe you could expound on the choice to do that. What purpose do those particular replies, of all the ones available, serve?


Sure, I posted them to show her prior Pro-Israel statements and to show that she is an Israeli citizen. When an Israeli pedophile flees to Israel, and the US Attorney for that state is an Israeli, are we not allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? If some Somalian pedophile was allowed to flee back to Somalia, and the US attorney was Somalian, would we be allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? You aren't going to guilt trip me into not questioning the motives of somebody in the government.

You posted blatant propaganda replies from an obvious anti-Israel account. It's like posting a Democratic Underground reply to Trump. The only people who believe that they have any credibility are way down the chain of ideologues.
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LMCane said:

how many lies in one post are allowed?

let's see:

U.S. State Dept - Near Eastern Affairs

@StateDept_NEA

The Department of State is aware that Tom Artiom Alexandrovich, an Israeli citizen, was arrested in Las Vegas.

and given a court date for charges related to soliciting sex electronically from a minor.

He did not claim diplomatic immunity.

and WAS RELEASED BY A STATE JUDGE pending a court date.

Any claims that the U.S. government intervened are false.. He did not "flee" to Israel.

again- notice how anti-semites focus on ONE case of ONE arrest (not even a conviction) in a country of 330 million people-

with 1,230,100 million people in American prisons.




I hadn't seen this before, I wish they would name the judge when they make these kind of statements
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Phatbob said:

PaulsBunions said:

Phatbob said:

You chose those specific replies to post, maybe you could expound on the choice to do that. What purpose do those particular replies, of all the ones available, serve?


Sure, I posted them to show her prior Pro-Israel statements and to show that she is an Israeli citizen. When an Israeli pedophile flees to Israel, and the US Attorney for that state is an Israeli, are we not allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? If some Somalian pedophile was allowed to flee back to Somalia, and the US attorney was Somalian, would we be allowed to question why the pedophile was treated so leniently? You aren't going to guilt trip me into not questioning the motives of somebody in the government.

You posted blatant propaganda replies from an obvious anti-Israel account. It's like posting a Democratic Underground reply to Trump. The only people who believe that they have any credibility are way down the chain of ideologues.


Are you saying the screenshots are fake? I just posted the top ones from X to contribute to the point of the thread. Its hardly propaganda to post the judge's own prior statements.
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He did not "flee" to Israel


What would you call it?

I'm Gipper
 
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