For whatever reason you've got a real hard on for the price and what happens after a revaluation.

Govt is going to do whatever it can get away with to keep the ponzi going and keep the people from discovering the truth via narratives and propaganda.

IMO ALL of our markets are fake and gay. There is no real price discovery in any market because of computer trading derivatives. If there are regulators watching, they've been bought off or are part of the scam.

Revaluation of gold is just another Fugazi.



Edit: Forgot to add. We are ruled over by morons, criminals, blackmailed individuals, and pedos....

Krombopulos Michael said:

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For whatever reason you've got a real hard on for the price and what happens after a revaluation.

Govt is going to do whatever it can get away with to keep the ponzi going and keep the people from discovering the truth via narratives and propaganda.

IMO ALL of our markets are fake and gay. There is no real price discovery in any market because of computer trading derivatives. If there are regulators watching, they've been bought off or are part of the scam.

Revaluation of gold is just another Fugazi.



Edit: Forgot to add. We are ruled over by morons, criminals, blackmailed individuals, and pedos....

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It's called reality.

There's a bid. And there's an ask.

If we step in with a bid at $20k to purchase $5T worth of gold, that becomes the price until we fulfill our allotment. Once we are done, who in the world do you think will still be buying at $20k with the US not there to backstop them? Moreover, where in the world is the money going to come from for the market to maintain a $20k or higher bid? Please, cite your sources if you think you can answer. Global conspiracy to keep price high is not an answer. Because real funds to trade hands.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Krombopulos Michael said:

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For whatever reason you've got a real hard on for the price and what happens after a revaluation.

Govt is going to do whatever it can get away with to keep the ponzi going and keep the people from discovering the truth via narratives and propaganda.

IMO ALL of our markets are fake and gay. There is no real price discovery in any market because of computer trading derivatives. If there are regulators watching, they've been bought off or are part of the scam.

Revaluation of gold is just another Fugazi.



Edit: Forgot to add. We are ruled over by morons, criminals, blackmailed individuals, and pedos....

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It's called reality.

There's a bid. And there's an ask.

If we step in with a bid at $20k to purchase $5T worth of gold, that becomes the price until we fulfill our allotment. Once we are done, who in the world do you think will still be buying at $20k with the US not there to backstop them? Moreover, where in the world is the money going to come from for the market to maintain a $20k or higher bid? Please, cite your sources if you think you can answer. Global conspiracy to keep price high is not an answer. Because real funds to trade hands.

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Have a listen to Clive start at around 26:50.



What I get from this...

• The Fed currently holds US Treasury issued gold certificates at a gold value of $42.22 per certificate
• The US Treasury could buy those gold certificates back at their current value of $11Bn.
• Trump could re-value gold to $15K
• Bessent could then re-issue gold certificates to the Fed at the new $15K gold value
• The Fed would provide roughly $4-5 trillion in reserve notes to the Treasury in exchange for the gold certificates
• The Treasury is now flush with cash liquidity

Tell us what happens with the gold paper market if this all comes to pass.

TTUArmy said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Krombopulos Michael said:

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For whatever reason you've got a real hard on for the price and what happens after a revaluation.

Govt is going to do whatever it can get away with to keep the ponzi going and keep the people from discovering the truth via narratives and propaganda.

IMO ALL of our markets are fake and gay. There is no real price discovery in any market because of computer trading derivatives. If there are regulators watching, they've been bought off or are part of the scam.

Revaluation of gold is just another Fugazi.



Edit: Forgot to add. We are ruled over by morons, criminals, blackmailed individuals, and pedos....

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It's called reality.

There's a bid. And there's an ask.

If we step in with a bid at $20k to purchase $5T worth of gold, that becomes the price until we fulfill our allotment. Once we are done, who in the world do you think will still be buying at $20k with the US not there to backstop them? Moreover, where in the world is the money going to come from for the market to maintain a $20k or higher bid? Please, cite your sources if you think you can answer. Global conspiracy to keep price high is not an answer. Because real funds to trade hands.

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Have a listen to Clive start at around 26:50.



What I get from this...

• The Fed currently holds US Treasury issued gold certificates at a gold value of $42.22 per certificate
• The US Treasury could buy those gold certificates back at their current value of $11Bn.
• Trump could re-value gold to $15K
• Bessent could then re-issue gold certificates to the Fed at the new $15K gold value
• The Fed would provide roughly $4-5 trillion in reserve notes to the Treasury in exchange for the gold certificates
• The Treasury is now flush with cash liquidity

Tell us what happens with the gold paper market if this all comes to pass.

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I'm not doubting what would happen should they do this. I'm talking about what happens after. It won't be a permanent paradigm. Just a last gasp magic trick by a government literally out of options.

This also goes back to my multi-year point I've been making that there is no QE coming to save the day. The "print for forever people" don't understand that they literally can't. Any they know this. Which is why this absurd gold revaluation plan is even being considered. It's the only option on the table without accepting reality that we are over our skis in debt and the only solution is deflation. This gold scheme would be a can kick to the edge of the cliff. All it would take is a whisp of wind to send it over.

And I say all this as someone with a lot to gain from gold being significantly higher in price.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Krombopulos Michael said:

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For whatever reason you've got a real hard on for the price and what happens after a revaluation.

Govt is going to do whatever it can get away with to keep the ponzi going and keep the people from discovering the truth via narratives and propaganda.

IMO ALL of our markets are fake and gay. There is no real price discovery in any market because of computer trading derivatives. If there are regulators watching, they've been bought off or are part of the scam.

Revaluation of gold is just another Fugazi.

Edit: Forgot to add. We are ruled over by morons, criminals, blackmailed individuals, and pedos....

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It's called reality.

There's a bid. And there's an ask.

If we step in with a bid at $20k to purchase $5T worth of gold, that becomes the price until we fulfill our allotment. Once we are done, who in the world do you think will still be buying at $20k with the US not there to backstop them? Moreover, where in the world is the money going to come from for the market to maintain a $20k or higher bid? Please, cite your sources if you think you can answer. Global conspiracy to keep price high is not an answer. Because real funds to trade hands.

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Have a listen to Clive start at around 26:50.



What I get from this...

• The Fed currently holds US Treasury issued gold certificates at a gold value of $42.22 per certificate
• The US Treasury could buy those gold certificates back at their current value of $11Bn.
• Trump could re-value gold to $15K
• Bessent could then re-issue gold certificates to the Fed at the new $15K gold value
• The Fed would provide roughly $4-5 trillion in reserve notes to the Treasury in exchange for the gold certificates
• The Treasury is now flush with cash liquidity

Tell us what happens with the gold paper market if this all comes to pass.

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I'm not doubting what would happen should they do this. I'm talking about what happens after. It won't be a permanent paradigm. Just a last gasp magic trick by a government literally out of options.

This also goes back to my multi-year point I've been making that there is no QE coming to save the day. The "print for forever people" don't understand that they literally can't. Any they know this. Which is why this absurd gold revaluation plan is even being considered. It's the only option on the table without accepting reality that we are over our skis in debt and the only solution is deflation. This gold scheme would be a can kick to the edge of the cliff. All it would take is a whisp of wind to send it over.

And I say all this as someone with a lot to gain from gold being significantly higher in price.

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Well said, H-A...as always. Government would be flush with cash...for awhile. Which stocks are closest to the money spigot if government is flush with cash? MIC? Energy? AI? If this is happening, just keep an eye on the charts and let us know when you see something about to make it rain.

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This also goes back to my multi-year point I've been making that there is no QE coming to save the day. The "print for forever people" don't understand that they literally can't. Any they know this. Which is why this absurd gold revaluation plan is even being considered. It's the only option on the table without accepting reality that we are over our skis in debt and the only solution is deflation. This gold scheme would be a can kick to the edge of the cliff. All it would take is a whisp of wind to send it over.

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The FED "expanded their balance sheet" in 2008 to save the system (i.e -took on the toxic stuff so banks could survive).

That's what they are going to try to do again with this revaluation.

There's really no point in trying to call them out on it. You are just screaming into a hurricane.

Just position yourself for the inevitable, grab a chair, and watch the chaos when it unfolds.


It is what it is.......

Remember this article? Why would Trump impose a 39% tariff on gold which could push the price of physical sharply higher: Well, if at $2800 (gold $ at the time) gold revaluation would inject $800BN in Treasury cash, at $4726 ($3400*1.39) it would mean $1.235 trillion! https://t.co/qDHU4YGxCB

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) August 8, 2025

Tariffs on #Gold is a MUST if the U.S. is planning a potential higher than market price physical #Gold revaluation at the U.S. Treasury.

Trolls, come and fight me you idiots.😆🙈 pic.twitter.com/2y7B4SaRz6

— Eric Yeung 👍🚀🌕 (@KingKong9888) August 8, 2025

🚨 TRUMP SLAPS 39% TARIFF ON 1KG AND 100 OUNCE #GOLD BARS. #GOLDSQUEEZE pic.twitter.com/EKKCNsssJH

— Make Gold Great (@MakeGoldGreat) August 8, 2025

javajaws said:

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I'm having a hard time understanding how this would fix anything. Even if we re-evaluated the price, we still have the debt. So you would have to sell all of that gold off to clear the debt, right?

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Which would crash the price of gold.

More importantly, does anyone trust the US government to take the cash proceeds from that sale and actually pay down the debt with it?

Hell no. The second that money hits their little hands, it's going to be spent on something.

2008 and now have absolutely nothing in common. It's clear you are in the "governments will always print" camp, without understanding the exact mechanisms that enable the money suppl expansion and how the plumbing in the system has to work for it to become reality.

And there's really no point in arguing further. I wish you luck on your endeavors. I will certainly benefit greatly if gold is revalued artificially at a number that doesn't reflect reality.

Ok big time.

Never said I did know the exact mechanisms and really don't care.

The thread was started to show that the winds of change are starting for a gold revaluation.

And after the tariff on gold today, looks like I'm correct.

Enjoy the rest of your day......

The tariffed gold is exactly the size and type of gold bar that Gold shorts use in the futures market. Trump is doing two things, and both are net + for gold: he's squeezing shorts that may have to scramble for cheaper gold, and he's setting the USA up to be a major player in gold pricing in a world where gold, as a Tier I asset, is held by banks and central banks the world over.

Can BRICS make their counter moves? Of course. But this is the USA re-establishing itself in the gold arena after (arguably) either looking the other way or encouraging naked shorting of the yellow metal for decades.

jagvocate said:

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The tariffed gold is exactly the size and type of gold bar that Gold shorts use in the futures market. Trump is doing two things, and both are net + for gold: he's squeezing shorts that may have to scramble for cheaper gold, and he's setting the USA up to be a major player in gold pricing in a world where gold, as a Tier I asset, is held by banks and central banks the world over.

Can BRICS make their counter moves? Of course. But this is the USA re-establishing itself in the gold arena after (arguably) either looking the other way or encouraging naked shorting of the yellow metal for decades.

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Yes, on its face its great. I would prefer they avoid revaluing gold in an debt crisis can kick manuever for reasons I've expounded on in previous pages here. But I also have to mention, BRICS has been making their move. They have been buying up gold for well over a year now. Do they have enough? I don't know. Do they have actual gold, or paper? Again, I don't know.

I think we are going to find out though.

Gold revaluation is just a container for dollar hyperinflation and ending the USD petro reserve system.

If silver happens to follow gold after a re-valuation, at even a 100:1 ratio, the price of goods manufactured with silver is going to be freakin' eye-watering. You think cars and iPhones are expensive now? Whew...

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The Trump administration suggested it would issue a new policy clarifying that imports of gold bars should not face tariffs, after the US government stunned traders by ruling that they would be subject to duties.

The White House intends to post an executive order in the near future to clarify what an official called misinformation about the tariffing of gold and other specialty products. The official detailed the plans Friday on condition of anonymity.

Spot gold and futures prices on New York's Comex fell after the White House statement.

Industry figures had previously understood that bars would be exempt from President Donald Trump's so-called reciprocal tariffs, including a 39% on goods from Switzerland, a major exporter of the precious metal. But when a Swiss gold refiner asked about it, US Customs and Border Protection ruled that one-kilogram and 100-ounce gold bars are subject to the levies, according to an agency letter.

The order could calm a market that was rocked by the prospect of a tariff on gold imports.

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Trump Tariffs: White House to Clarify Misinformation on Gold (GC1) Duties - Bloomberg

Government isn't used to doing things and it shows