No sugary sweets with food stamps

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Jugstore Cowboy
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I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks
Fightin_Aggie
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Waffledynamics said:

My God some of the replies are dumb.







They can with their own damn money. Food stamps are to keep you from going hungry and healthy to work and do a productive job


Anything else is a luxury you pay for
Fall92
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Yep, the government should just stop overreaching altogether. Save $400M/day.
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Quito
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Ask anyone who has ever worked as a sacker (back when they actually took bags to your car) or a cashier, how much those paying with food stamps really needed them.

Countless folks paying with food stamps and putting groceries in their Cadillac. I got yelled at in the early '90's when I tried to manually shut this food stamp ladies trunk. It had electric close, something I had never hear of, yet she paid with food stamps.

Had a lady paying for baby formula with WIC laughing about how expensive it is and thank God she doesn't have to pay for it. She bought a carton of cigs with check.

Happened all the time.
ts5641
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Another in the file of "should've happened a LONG time ago."
ts5641
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TxSquarebody said:

"Women and minorities most impacted."

Maybe that's part of women and minorities problems then. There's not much worse stuff you can put in your bodies and for your brains than sodas.
P.U.T.U
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If someone is being rude about something not being covered by WIC when they are checking out I'll say something which pisses them off. Oh well, don't complain about me paying for your groceries through my tax dollars
Emotional Support Cobra
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On one hand Trump is Satan for drinking diet Coke and on the other hand Coke is healthy in moderation despite low income Americans being the fattest and most diabetes prone population.

I'm dizzy....
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Waffledynamics said:




If your dad wants a Coke then you go buy him one. Taxpayers should be under no obligation to do so.
techno-ag
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Quito said:

Ask anyone who has ever worked as a slacker (back when they actually took bags to your car) or a cashier, how much those paying with food stamps really needed them.

Countless folks paying with food stamps and putting groceries in their Cadillac. I got yelled at in the early '90's when I tried to manually shut this food stamp ladies trunk. It had electric close, something I had never hear of, yet she paid with food stamps.

Had a lady paying for baby formula with WIC laughing about how expensive it is and thank God she doesn't have to pay for it. She bought a carton of cigs with check.

Happened all the time.

Yup. Food programs allow the poor to divert money they would have spent on necessities and spend it on luxuries or other frivolous pursuits like liquor and cigarettes.

This is one reason "money for nothing" is so insidious. Charity should be handled by churches or other private organizations within people's communities, not by the government.
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CardiffGiant
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That's funny right there.
KidDoc
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A bill like this has come up nearly every session in Texas but it always gets buried and lost in committee. The junk food lobbies are MUCH richer than people interested in child health.

This is very much overdue. The poor kids I see on medicaid have a much higher rate of morbid obesity than the well off families. The reason those convience stores stock only junk is that they only sell junk and at a large percent to food stamps. If that well dries up they will stock up with foods that are covered in no time. And with food delivery easily available now I don't want to hear about food deserts.


Aggie Jurist
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A bill like this has come up nearly every session in Texas but it always gets buried and lost in committee. The junk food lobbies are MUCH richer than people interested in child health.

As are grocery and C-store lobbies.

I see it all the time - family comes in to a C-store and buys $50 worth of sodas, candy and chips - and whips out the SNAP card. Makes me ill every time.
sleepybeagle
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We're helping people to death.
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agracer
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And you can likely triple that for the Medicare/Medicaid costs that are a direct result of SNAP.
Ryan the Temp
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KidDoc said:

A bill like this has come up nearly every session in Texas but it always gets buried and lost in committee. The junk food lobbies are MUCH richer than people interested in child health.

This is very much overdue. The poor kids I see on medicaid have a much higher rate of morbid obesity than the well off families. The reason those convience stores stock only junk is that they only sell junk and at a large percent to food stamps. If that well dries up they will stock up with foods that are covered in no time. And with food delivery easily available now I don't want to hear about food deserts.

Just tell Dan Patrick that transgender people are using food stamps to buy soda and candy in bathrooms at THC stores and the issue will get top priority.
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torrid said:

And why isn't it already that way? I know WIC is policed pretty closely. Can only buy regular Cheerios with it, not honey nut.

Because a lot of time and money is spent lobbying to make it where you can buy anything with food stamps, by both food manufacturers and retailers alike.

7-11 will take that food stamp money just like HEB will.
AggieT
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On that note, stop allowing SNAP to be used in convenience stores, or at least cap the amount they can charge for eligible items. It's ridiculous that they allow people to pay 2x the price on stuff vs a grocery store.
Champion of Fireball
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I'd love to hear from any liberal doctors on this board.
rausr
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Did Philadelphia's soda tax have an impact on people's health?

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In 2017, Philadelphia implemented a tax on sweetened beverages, also called the soda tax. The idea was that it would pay for early childhood education. Health advocates also supported it, arguing that sugary drinks are tied to obesity and that a tax would help.


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She and a group of researchers went deeper to look at electronic health records to compare the body mass index of thousands of patients in Philadelphia, versus people who live outside the city. They found that BMI increased over time in both areas, but the rate at which BMI went up was slower for people in Philadelphia. The new article, which was published this month in the Lancet Regional Health Americas, concludes that there was "limited evidence" of reduced BMI and obesity prevalence in Philadelphia, due to the tax.

IIIHorn
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?


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Ryan the Temp
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SNAP theft is a HUGE problem and most of it involves skimming benefit cards and selling the info to be used in other states. A friend of mine works in SNAP administration in CA and he called me up to help him figure out an address in Houston that turned out to be a big HEB store where ~400 of his benefit recipient's stolen benefits were being used.

I wish there were a way to geofence these benefits. That might help cut down on some of the fraud. Further, using the same type of fraud detection banks use to detect credit card fraud could be beneficial and more cost-effective than just replacing the stolen benefits, which is the standard practice. Ultimately, this will probably save taxpayers more money than limiting which foods can be purchased.
KidDoc
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Ryan the Temp said:

SNAP theft is a HUGE problem and most of it involves skimming benefit cards and selling the info to be used in other states. A friend of mine works in SNAP administration in CA and he called me up to help him figure out an address in Houston that turned out to be a big HEB store where ~400 of his benefit recipient's stolen benefits were being used.

I wish there were a way to geofence these benefits. That might help cut down on some of the fraud. Further, using the same type of fraud detection banks use to detect credit card fraud could be beneficial and more cost-effective than just replacing the stolen benefits, which is the standard practice. Ultimately, this will probably save taxpayers more money than limiting which foods can be purchased.

Since EVERYONE has a smartphone you can geolocate and tie it to a digital SNAP card. Would be very easy.
techno-ag
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IIIHorn said:

Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?


The doctor.











Dr. Pepper.
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No Spin Ag
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jamey said:

I think this is a good idea






This is one hell of a start.

More.
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I am glad Human Health and Services Secretary Robert Kenndy Jr. is taking action to fully ban food stamps from being used to obtain sugary sweets because food stamps are intended to keep you from starving. If they want to consume sugary food and drinks, they should pay for these items themselves.
BonfireNerd04
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IIIHorn said:

Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?

I can't give you a tab unless you order something.

Coca-Cola discontinued Tab in 2020, so this joke may be lost on younger people.
BonfireNerd04
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

I am glad Human Health and Services Secretary Robert Kenndy Jr. is taking action to fully ban food stamps from being used to obtain sugary sweets because food stamps are intended to keep you from starving. If they want to consume deserts and soda occasionally, they should pay for it themselves.

Food stamps are intended to subsidize Big Agriculture and Big Groceries by incentivizing the poors to buy more food than they need. Nutritional effects are secondary to that.
IIIHorn
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techno-ag said:

IIIHorn said:

Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?


The doctor.











Dr. Pepper.


Whatever ales you.


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IIIHorn
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BonfireNerd04 said:

IIIHorn said:

Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?

I can't give you a tab unless you order something.

Coca-Cola discontinued Tab in 2020, so this joke may be lost on younger people.



Doh!


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JB!98
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Aggie Jurist said:

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A bill like this has come up nearly every session in Texas but it always gets buried and lost in committee. The junk food lobbies are MUCH richer than people interested in child health.

As are grocery and C-store lobbies.

I see it all the time - family comes in to a C-store and buys $50 worth of sodas, candy and chips - and whips out the SNAP card. Makes me ill every time.

They are generally driving a better vehicle than I am driving. They then whip out cash to pay for lottery tickets, and make me wait in line while they decide on the $50 worth of tickets that they want. All the while, I am paying for all of it in some way or another.

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B-1 83
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What does the "S" stand for in "SNAP"? Buy your own sodas.
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torrid
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BonfireNerd04 said:

IIIHorn said:

Jugstore Cowboy said:

I hope this pushes convenience stores in the sticks or in ghettos to start carrying diet soft drinks


Who will pick up the Tab?

I can't give you a tab unless you order something.

Coca-Cola discontinued Tab in 2020, so this joke may be lost on younger people.

OK, I'll have a Pepsi Free instead.
No Spin Ag
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schmellba99 said:

torrid said:

And why isn't it already that way? I know WIC is policed pretty closely. Can only buy regular Cheerios with it, not honey nut.

Because a lot of time and money is spent lobbying to make it where you can buy anything with food stamps, by both food manufacturers and retailers alike.

7-11 will take that food stamp money just like HEB will.


Lobbyists are the true pox on our government money. They pay millions to make sure our tax dollars get slush funded through the poor to go right into their pockets.

It's good seeing them get their due in Texas. Hopefully MAHA can make these private companies "REEEEE!" In all 50 states.
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B-1 83 said:

What does the "S" stand for in "SNAP"? Buy your own sodas.


It stands for "Sho".

Sho Nuff Ain't Payin
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