94DCAg said:
I'd vote for him.
You must like losers
94DCAg said:
I'd vote for him.
Big fan of Marxism?94DCAg said:
I'd vote for him.
AgDotCom said:Martin Cash said:murphyag said:Sid Farkas said:Who?mikejones! said:
Just fired up Joe's podcast to listen.
First section is about the ten commandants. I agree I don't really want the government requiring the ten commands to be posted in schools.....
However, I find his religious dogma misguided
I gave up right after that. The ten commandments is a foundation of our culture. He treated it as purely a religious document, then preened about being a devout Christian and that's why he doesn't want them posted in classrooms. Completely idiotic. Sad to hear Joe lap it up.
His views on the Ten Commandments poster in the classroom comes from his time working as a public school teacher. I have cousins and friends from church who are teachers. They all feel the same way that he does. They all predict it will cause students to feel left out/ashamed/unworthy if they are Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, etc. They also think it is going to bring up discussions that aren't appropriate for school and will be a distraction in the classroom.
Why on earth would a Jew be ashamed of the Ten Commandments?
LOL, I read the same thing and started to load the same response, but luckily scrolled to make sure someone else hadn't responded already.
Bible literacy in here sometimes seems like it's at the 2/10 level. Saying Jews would be ashamed of the 10 Commandments when a Jew actually received them on Mt. Sinai / Horeb, then delivered them to his people, is comical. At what kind of church do his cousins and friends attend.....and worse, how did they become teachers but whiff on this very rudimentary Biblical truth, even when viewed thru a secular lens?
Another reason to read the Bible yourself instead of being deceived by all the pencil-whipping from each group with their own agenda.
maybe just rename them as "Non-negotiables" then. Or do we disagree that murder and theft and idolatry and adultery are bad things?army01 said:AgDotCom said:Martin Cash said:murphyag said:Sid Farkas said:Who?mikejones! said:
Just fired up Joe's podcast to listen.
First section is about the ten commandants. I agree I don't really want the government requiring the ten commands to be posted in schools.....
However, I find his religious dogma misguided
I gave up right after that. The ten commandments is a foundation of our culture. He treated it as purely a religious document, then preened about being a devout Christian and that's why he doesn't want them posted in classrooms. Completely idiotic. Sad to hear Joe lap it up.
His views on the Ten Commandments poster in the classroom comes from his time working as a public school teacher. I have cousins and friends from church who are teachers. They all feel the same way that he does. They all predict it will cause students to feel left out/ashamed/unworthy if they are Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, etc. They also think it is going to bring up discussions that aren't appropriate for school and will be a distraction in the classroom.
Why on earth would a Jew be ashamed of the Ten Commandments?
LOL, I read the same thing and started to load the same response, but luckily scrolled to make sure someone else hadn't responded already.
Bible literacy in here sometimes seems like it's at the 2/10 level. Saying Jews would be ashamed of the 10 Commandments when a Jew actually received them on Mt. Sinai / Horeb, then delivered them to his people, is comical. At what kind of church do his cousins and friends attend.....and worse, how did they become teachers but whiff on this very rudimentary Biblical truth, even when viewed thru a secular lens?
Another reason to read the Bible yourself instead of being deceived by all the pencil-whipping from each group with their own agenda.
Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep its way into the classroom.
stallion6 said:Pantera said:
Conservatives need a good counter. People are getting pretty tired of the same ol same ol, especially with the influx of east and west coast 30-40 year olds in our urban areas.
He has an interesting background family wise, and he is very well spoken. He is everything Beto wishes he was. Like OP said, AOC but way more intelligent.
We have to stop looking for fakes like Dan Crenshaw, and people that only appeal to the MAGA crowd. A true fiscal conservative that could get suburban moms to come out and vote and one who would stop harping on weed, abortions, and trans would do wonders for the future of Texas.
We'll see if it happens...
Most suburban moms need to be better informed. They seldom care about policies. Also, never put Dan Crenshaw and MAGA in the same paragraph.
army01 said:AgDotCom said:Martin Cash said:murphyag said:Sid Farkas said:Who?mikejones! said:
Just fired up Joe's podcast to listen.
First section is about the ten commandants. I agree I don't really want the government requiring the ten commands to be posted in schools.....
However, I find his religious dogma misguided
I gave up right after that. The ten commandments is a foundation of our culture. He treated it as purely a religious document, then preened about being a devout Christian and that's why he doesn't want them posted in classrooms. Completely idiotic. Sad to hear Joe lap it up.
His views on the Ten Commandments poster in the classroom comes from his time working as a public school teacher. I have cousins and friends from church who are teachers. They all feel the same way that he does. They all predict it will cause students to feel left out/ashamed/unworthy if they are Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, etc. They also think it is going to bring up discussions that aren't appropriate for school and will be a distraction in the classroom.
Why on earth would a Jew be ashamed of the Ten Commandments?
LOL, I read the same thing and started to load the same response, but luckily scrolled to make sure someone else hadn't responded already.
Bible literacy in here sometimes seems like it's at the 2/10 level. Saying Jews would be ashamed of the 10 Commandments when a Jew actually received them on Mt. Sinai / Horeb, then delivered them to his people, is comical. At what kind of church do his cousins and friends attend.....and worse, how did they become teachers but whiff on this very rudimentary Biblical truth, even when viewed thru a secular lens?
Another reason to read the Bible yourself instead of being deceived by all the pencil-whipping from each group with their own agenda.
Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep it's way into the classroom.
powerbelly said:
The guy is a snake and Rogan is dumb enough to fall for his bull*****
Ragoo said:army01 said:AgDotCom said:Martin Cash said:murphyag said:Sid Farkas said:Who?mikejones! said:
Just fired up Joe's podcast to listen.
First section is about the ten commandants. I agree I don't really want the government requiring the ten commands to be posted in schools.....
However, I find his religious dogma misguided
I gave up right after that. The ten commandments is a foundation of our culture. He treated it as purely a religious document, then preened about being a devout Christian and that's why he doesn't want them posted in classrooms. Completely idiotic. Sad to hear Joe lap it up.
His views on the Ten Commandments poster in the classroom comes from his time working as a public school teacher. I have cousins and friends from church who are teachers. They all feel the same way that he does. They all predict it will cause students to feel left out/ashamed/unworthy if they are Jewish, Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, etc. They also think it is going to bring up discussions that aren't appropriate for school and will be a distraction in the classroom.
Why on earth would a Jew be ashamed of the Ten Commandments?
LOL, I read the same thing and started to load the same response, but luckily scrolled to make sure someone else hadn't responded already.
Bible literacy in here sometimes seems like it's at the 2/10 level. Saying Jews would be ashamed of the 10 Commandments when a Jew actually received them on Mt. Sinai / Horeb, then delivered them to his people, is comical. At what kind of church do his cousins and friends attend.....and worse, how did they become teachers but whiff on this very rudimentary Biblical truth, even when viewed thru a secular lens?
Another reason to read the Bible yourself instead of being deceived by all the pencil-whipping from each group with their own agenda.
Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep its way into the classroom.
maybe just rename them as "Non-negotiables" then. Or do we disagree that murder and theft and idolatry and adultery are bad things?
1-4 you could just as easily tell kids to apply the same principles to their own diety.
5-10 should be universally applicable across all faiths, ethnicities, etc.
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Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep it's way into the classroom.
Saxsoon said:stallion6 said:Pantera said:
Conservatives need a good counter. People are getting pretty tired of the same ol same ol, especially with the influx of east and west coast 30-40 year olds in our urban areas.
He has an interesting background family wise, and he is very well spoken. He is everything Beto wishes he was. Like OP said, AOC but way more intelligent.
We have to stop looking for fakes like Dan Crenshaw, and people that only appeal to the MAGA crowd. A true fiscal conservative that could get suburban moms to come out and vote and one who would stop harping on weed, abortions, and trans would do wonders for the future of Texas.
We'll see if it happens...
Most suburban moms need to be better informed. They seldom care about policies. Also, never put Dan Crenshaw and MAGA in the same paragraph.
Then we need candidates who inform them
ABATTBQ87 said:Quote:
Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep it's way into the classroom.
Horace Mann (17961859), often called the "father of American education," championed the use of the Bible in his proposed common schools (the precursor to modern public schools) not for sectarian religious doctrine, but as the essential foundation for nonsectarian Christian moral values.
Mann argued that the common school "earnestly inculcates all Christian morals," and "welcomes the religion of the Bible." His solution was to have the King James Bible read in the classroom without comment or interpretation by the teacher. In his view, the Bible could be allowed to "speak for itself" and impart its universal moral lessons to all students, regardless of their specific Protestant affiliation
He saw the schools as the most effective tool for "molding society's most malleable members" into virtuous citizens. The moral habits taught using the Bible (honesty, diligence, respect for authority) would mitigate class conflict, reduce crime, and prepare children to be responsible voters and participants in a self-governing society. He believed it was better for society to intervene early and instill this virtue than to pay the "steep price" later in prisons and social disorder.
shiftyandquick said:ABATTBQ87 said:Quote:
Because it is a slippery slope. You bring in the 10 commandments, other religious talk starts to seep it's way into the classroom.
Horace Mann (17961859), often called the "father of American education," championed the use of the Bible in his proposed common schools (the precursor to modern public schools) not for sectarian religious doctrine, but as the essential foundation for nonsectarian Christian moral values.
Mann argued that the common school "earnestly inculcates all Christian morals," and "welcomes the religion of the Bible." His solution was to have the King James Bible read in the classroom without comment or interpretation by the teacher. In his view, the Bible could be allowed to "speak for itself" and impart its universal moral lessons to all students, regardless of their specific Protestant affiliation
He saw the schools as the most effective tool for "molding society's most malleable members" into virtuous citizens. The moral habits taught using the Bible (honesty, diligence, respect for authority) would mitigate class conflict, reduce crime, and prepare children to be responsible voters and participants in a self-governing society. He believed it was better for society to intervene early and instill this virtue than to pay the "steep price" later in prisons and social disorder.
what about the Book of Mormon as required reading as well? Very similar language style to KJV of the Bible.