Federal judge blocks the Trump admin's plan to deport Hatians back home.

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Juan Lee Pettimore
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How in the absolute F did more than HALF AN EFFING MILLION illegal Haitians get into this country? What the F are we effing doing?
Cougar11
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

How in the absolute F did more than HALF AN EFFING MILLION illegal Haitians get into this country? What the F are we effing doing?
You can thank CMs and people who dont like mean tweets.
annie88
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DonHenley said:

Ignore the judge


No ***** I've seriously had enough of this crap. They do not have the jurisdiction for this. Just ignore them or get it overturned immediately.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
annie88
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

How in the absolute F did more than HALF AN EFFING MILLION illegal Haitians get into this country? What the F are we effing doing?


DEMOCRATS.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
annie88
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AtticusMatlock said:

The "T" in TPS stands for "temporary." It's 18 months. The judge didn't say Noem/HHS had no power to deport them, just didn't follow the process prescribed by Congress. Another example of something being on Congress, IMO not the judge. Unlike some other federal rulings, to me at least this doesn't seem like judicial overreach.


He should have no say on this. Why delay it? This is just for show "we hate Trump and will obstruct him every step of the way no matter how wrong it is."

Just get them out now, otherwise we're paying for them longer.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
AtticusMatlock
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Because Congress gets to pass laws. The executive has to follow those laws. Congress mandates how the people can be removed, not the executive branch. The judge didn't make up new law here, the administration did.

Complain to Congress.
nortex97
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aggiejayrod said:

nortex97 said:

I think poster above is in error. The judge referenced that when gov't gives a timeline and someone relies on it (detrimentally), the gov't can't just change it after they are enrolled in schools/jobs etc for the year. I don't agree with the examples/claims in this case, but that's what he said (paraphrasing). It's not a statutorily mandated 6 months.
The remedy for most of the things you just listed is cash not specific performance.
And he didn't order specific performance. Again, fwiw, I am not defending this decision, just scanned the first page/news article.
Get Off My Lawn
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Process them all to Guam. Then once things expire they can just load airplanes to fly them home. Or, if it tips over before that, they can get a head start on the swim.
ts5641
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Didn't the USSC just resolve this issue?
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Now let him enforce it
jrdaustin
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This judge is a nut. He's attempting to alter the law as he distorts the statute with his interpretation:

The Statue's Language:
Such termination is effective in accordance with subsection (d)(3), but shall not be effective earlier than 60 days after the date the notice is published or, if later, the expiration of the most recent previous extension under subparagraph (C).

The Judge's interpretation in his Order:
The Secretary of Homeland Security may not publish a termination of a TPS designation that becomes effective before 60 days after the publication of notice in the Federal Register, or "the expiration of the most recent previous extension," whichever is later. 8 U.S.C. 1254a(b)(3)(B). In other words, Secretary Noem cannot reconsider Haiti's TPS designation in a way that takes effect before February 3, 2026, the expiration of the most recent previous extension.

So the statute specifically lays out the timeline that the termination is not effective before 60 days after the date notice is published, OR the end of the initial extension (Feb of 26).

But this judge is twisting the words to replace "if later" with "whichever is later" to state that the initial 18 month extension is a guarantee that insulates any decision by the Secretary to AT LEAST the initial extension date. That's not at all what the statute says.

My reading of the statue clearly states that the Secretary cannot enforce termination of TPS designation BEFORE 60 days after publication of notice. But the Secretary has the OPTION to make termination effective all the way up to the expiration of the most recent previous extension. It's a window, not a guarantee! Otherwise, if the Secretary never posts termination, the TPS designation is automatically extended for another 6 months.
samurai_science
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They will appeal since the judge is wrong
45-70Ag
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These judges should be told get ****ed.
EX TEXASEX
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Half a million people who have no prayer of fitting in here. Get 'em gone

Well, Mr. Know-It-All/Smarty Pants. Have you thought about key sectors of American society that will be decimated by their absence?? Who will fill the void YOUR policies create, such as in the area of people with an average IQ of 67?

A niche the Haitians have monopolized for decades, if not hundreds of years, in America. Who is now going to ritually sacrifice chickens, goats, and sheep for that voodoo that you do, that now won't be done? Finally, do you expect Fido to snatch himself off the porch and place himself in the middle of the sumptuous spread where he expertly brazed? Like everybody else, I am waiting for your response!!!
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45-70Ag said:



These judges should be told get ****ed.
It will be far more effective to drop the MS13 members in their neighborhoods
DannyDuberstein
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This is exactly what I'd be doing with these folks he says you can't deport. Drop them in front of his house, tell them "The guy that lives there wants to help you!" Drive away. Rinse and repeat
jrdaustin
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Something tells me these DC District judges got together and determined that they would do whatever it takes to hamstring this administration, SCOTUS be dammed.

Until Roberts has the cajones to specifically call these individuals out, it's not gonna get any better.

They all think they're Judge Dredd.... "I AM the law."

EX TEXASEX
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Quote:

BREAKING: Obama-appointed Judge Moss overturns Trump's emergency declaration, demanding the border reopen for illegals

. This ruling is something that could have come straight from the headline of a Babylon Bee article. If I am not mistaken. Isn't this judge pulling this crap on a regular basis? He is like a herpes/cold sore. He keeps just popping back up. Tom Homan needs to issue a national decree making his neighborhood a "sanctuary zone," but only for violent criminals. Violent criminals will not be deported if they stay in that zone
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45-70Ag said:



These judges should be told get ****ed.


Since when do we have to let anybody come in? These worthless judges can **** themselves. Somebody please tell me that the Trump administration can ignore this order?
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

How in the absolute F did more than HALF AN EFFING MILLION illegal Haitians get into this country? What the F are we effing doing?
And remember, the same people that supported this and sat by silently while it happened are the identical ones that lost their minds for a week and a half when we allowed 30-40 South Africans into the country on legitimate assylum claims.
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ts5641 said:

Didn't the USSC just resolve this issue?

Yeah... Pretty sure this was just settled last week
annie88
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AtticusMatlock said:

Because Congress gets to pass laws. The executive has to follow those laws. Congress mandates how the people can be removed, not the executive branch. The judge didn't make up new law here, the administration did.

Complain to Congress.
More than Half of them are bat **** crazy, criminals, antisemites, racist, and terrorist supporters. In other words, Democrats. They are in it for the grift only and couldn't care less about the American citizen.

And they don't even have term limits. These are not the people that should be making our laws.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
annie88
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It will be far more effective to drop the MS13 members in their neighborhoods at their exact homes.
fify
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FTAG 2000
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45-70Ag said:



These judges should be told get ****ed.


DHS should round up a thousand of the Haitians and drop them at this judges doorstep.


Get the media out there. If he does anything other than open his doors and let them do whatever they want, call him a racist too.
Urban Ag
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

How in the absolute F did more than HALF AN EFFING MILLION illegal Haitians get into this country? What the F are we effing doing?
NGO's got them to Mexico.

Our own govt flew them in daily from Port-au-Prince.

That's how.

Completely orchestrated.
IIIHorn
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GeorgiAg said:



Ha!
B-1 83
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Who authored/approved the plan to bring them in?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Urban Ag
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B-1 83 said:

Who authored/approved the plan to bring them in?
This is what I have been screaming for.

When do the Congressional and Senate inquiries begin? Why is Mayorkas not front and center? The democrat party must be made to explain to the American people why they facilitated this, because they did.

On who's order did we ship in millions of Haitians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Columbians, etc.? Why were hundreds of thousands from Iran, China, Pakistan, allowed to enter?

I am all for giving the Trump Team time to work through this nightmare but this has to happen.

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DrEvazanPhD said:

Half a million people who have no prayer of fitting in here. Get 'em gone


The ones in Florida working in housekeeping at many major hotels seem to be fitting in well enough
B-1 83
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If Biden and the Executive Branch made it happen, Trump should be able to make it "un-happen".
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Iraq2xVeteran
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U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan is deranged lunatic, who opposes deporting illegal aliens. Good nations enforce immigration law. We can't just let everyone who claims they are trying to claim asylum or escape their horrid conditions in their home country. These environmental groups are filing a baseless lawsuit because the place has already been used by aircraft for many years. The Democrats continue to despise accountability and blame the border crisis they created on President Trump and ICE. It's beyond clear that the Democrat Party is intentionally enabling illegal immigration to register them to become future Democratic voters. Also, most illegal aliens are trying to dismantle the American culture.
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ktownag08 said:

Temporarily protect them in Alligator Alcatraz, and other available space, from now until September 2 then start deportation operations.




Sorry not very smart. What's on September 2nd?
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2023NCAggies said:

ktownag08 said:

Temporarily protect them in Alligator Alcatraz, and other available space, from now until September 2 then start deportation operations.




Sorry not very smart. What's on September 2nd?


See the OP.

" The TPS designations for Haitians were expected to expire on Aug. 3 with termination to become effective on Sept. 2."
Trump will fix it.
FTAG 2000
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Did Congress issue the TPS for these folks? Or did Biden's auto pen commie?

Because if it's the latter, then Trump ought to to be able to bounce them just the same.

And what does the TPS program have to do with an open border?

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