Just welcome them. Success breeds success. If/when Trump wins, we all win. There has been some posters admit to coming around to Trump this week. Don't give them ***** Welcome them. Be kind. And this is coming from a frequently banned, foul-mouthed ass. Let's be kind for our change-of-heart brethren.
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That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
If we're going by tradition, Trump is a mixture of conservative, liberal, Republican, and old school Democrat. He's a common sense political populist. He made the GOP find their balls and I think his national movement is here for awhile. We've all doubted the man with good reason. Yet here we are. Watching the most transformative politician in modern history. Pretty wild.
K. That has nothing to do with the future. Trump keeps a lot of folks in line in the GOP but we don't know what happens without him. There are a LOT of folks that hate the GOP but love Trump for instance. The key is how much he can make the movement about issues and not just him in the next 3 years. There are some positive signs for sure and I'm hopeful, I just see it as a significant concern.ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
aggie93 said:K. That has nothing to do with the future. Trump keeps a lot of folks in line in the GOP but we don't know what happens without him. There are a LOT of folks that hate the GOP but love Trump for instance. The key is how much he can make the movement about issues and not just him in the next 3 years. There are some positive signs for sure and I'm hopeful, I just see it as a significant concern.ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
IMO, he does love the country. He also is an egomaniac. But the MAGA movement is real and tangible. I imagine the next generation will be trying to out-Trump each other.
Sure, so what comes next? He is term limited and going to be in his 80s. A lot of his support is personal loyalty and how people love him. He's got a mixed record at best when his name isn't on the ballot getting those folks out to vote, especially in the general. 2022 was filled with candidates Trump pushed in the primary who lost in the general.e=mc2 said:aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
If we're going by tradition, Trump is a mixture of conservative, liberal, Republican, and old school Democrat. He's a common sense political populist. He made the GOP find their balls and I think his national movement is here for awhile. We've all doubted the man with good reason. Yet here we are. Watching the most transformative politician in modern history. Pretty wild.
I think it's very solvable but if you don't see it as a concern you aren't paying attention.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
Right. A lot of those candidates don't do well. There is one Trump. He won't be running again for anything.e=mc2 said:aggie93 said:K. That has nothing to do with the future. Trump keeps a lot of folks in line in the GOP but we don't know what happens without him. There are a LOT of folks that hate the GOP but love Trump for instance. The key is how much he can make the movement about issues and not just him in the next 3 years. There are some positive signs for sure and I'm hopeful, I just see it as a significant concern.ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
IMO, he does love the country. He also is an egomaniac. But the MAGA movement is real and tangible. I imagine the next generation will be trying to out-Trump each other.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
aggie93 said:Sure, so what comes next? He is term limited and going to be in his 80s. A lot of his support is personal loyalty and how people love him. He's got a mixed record at best when his name isn't on the ballot getting those folks out to vote, especially in the general. 2022 was filled with candidates Trump pushed in the primary who lost in the general.e=mc2 said:aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
If we're going by tradition, Trump is a mixture of conservative, liberal, Republican, and old school Democrat. He's a common sense political populist. He made the GOP find their balls and I think his national movement is here for awhile. We've all doubted the man with good reason. Yet here we are. Watching the most transformative politician in modern history. Pretty wild.
I think it's very solvable but if you don't see it as a concern you aren't paying attention.
It's a situation like when Reagan was President. What followed was Liberal Lite for the GOP for the next few decades. And it's what got us Obama, as he became this Messiah to young voters. Trump has worked unbelievably hard to fight that liberal socialist mindset. But this time, I feel like what is behind him has the making of being legitimately strong and pro-America.
ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
81 million - Yes those 20 million invisible voters
Not sure how he got those votes but something tells me they were from immigration somehow
A continuation of his success in passing the baton IMO is dependent on at least a few things:
1. It will be difficult for him to share the spotlight, but he will have to be 'all in' on his successor. For those "cult" members who love the man but may not be R's, he's going to have to push them along to support the new guy, whoever that is.
2. The new guy will have to have a decent likability factor, to overcome the 24/7/365 negative press.
3. The Dems continue to self-destruct and split themselves into Far Left and even Further Left. This seems to be their path, as many are way over the edge. (lots of new R voters are there for the picking if the R's can use their brains and capture them).
Ron D (or/and Vance) please figure this out. There are also numerous Republican women who are solid as a rock as well. Lots of smart, well-spoken talent currently in the wings IMO.
This truly is quite the situation ahead of us. Trump must be involved and supportive.
1. It will be difficult for him to share the spotlight, but he will have to be 'all in' on his successor. For those "cult" members who love the man but may not be R's, he's going to have to push them along to support the new guy, whoever that is.
2. The new guy will have to have a decent likability factor, to overcome the 24/7/365 negative press.
3. The Dems continue to self-destruct and split themselves into Far Left and even Further Left. This seems to be their path, as many are way over the edge. (lots of new R voters are there for the picking if the R's can use their brains and capture them).
Ron D (or/and Vance) please figure this out. There are also numerous Republican women who are solid as a rock as well. Lots of smart, well-spoken talent currently in the wings IMO.
This truly is quite the situation ahead of us. Trump must be involved and supportive.
Vance 2028
I hope Eric makes a move in 28
Dude is a MAGA Beast that has avoided the spotlight for the most part, but he's extremely talented & would have direct access to the GOAT
Dude is a MAGA Beast that has avoided the spotlight for the most part, but he's extremely talented & would have direct access to the GOAT
The GOP bench is loaded.
Eric Trump is a talented speaker. I've always found the task difficult. Not sure about others. Trump and Reagan are the two most consequential politicians of my lifetime. MAGA is here to stay. The only group who can F it up is the Republican Party.
We have to be good as we can be to any converts. Their faith in conservatism will be shaky until they truly see the light of how ****ing stupid the dems and the left are.
Trump is thinking about his successors - which is why Vance is VP and Rubio is SOS. That's going to be the ticket in 2028. He wants MAGA to continue.
TAMU1990 said:
Trump is thinking about his successors - which is why Vance is VP and Rubio is SOS. That's going to be the ticket in 2028. He wants MAGA to continue.
Are those guys actually MAGA, or are they opportunists?
Not saying this ticket can't be great, just think we need to be careful....
The Republican Party is like 98% wolves in sheep clothing
Hopefully 20 million of them will get deported by 2028.ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
I realize I'm asking for a deportation rate of over 18,000 people per day.
I think the current quota is only about 3,000/day.
Those are rookie numbers.
With the Covid panic and mail in ballots, anything was possible - on paper.fullback44 said:ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
81 million - Yes those 20 million invisible voters
Not sure how he got those votes but something tells me they were from immigration somehow
Especially in places like Atlanta, Milwaukee, Phoenix. Nevermind California.
I like Vance so far. I hope he does make some changes that Trump would never make like advocating spending cuts.
Trump is the ultimate bully with the bully pulpit and has done nothing in this regard to help us with the debt.
It will be his biggest failure / lost opportunity.
Trump is the ultimate bully with the bully pulpit and has done nothing in this regard to help us with the debt.
It will be his biggest failure / lost opportunity.
aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
If the implication is that political support an donations should go to the GOP directly so that Thune and Johnson can determine who gets it, **** that.
Nursing homes across the country voted 100% for Biden. Family couldn't see them and nurses filled out their ballots. 2020 should have led to a lot of executions. Unfortunately, doctors and nurses executing patients and Ashley Babbitt where all we saw. Plus all the people and businesses killed because George Floyd decided to take fentanyl. What a **** show year the cabal unleashed on the world.HollywoodBQ said:With the Covid panic and mail in ballots, anything was possible - on paper.fullback44 said:ShaggySLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
81 million - Yes those 20 million invisible voters
Not sure how he got those votes but something tells me they were from immigration somehow
Especially in places like Atlanta, Milwaukee, Phoenix. Nevermind California.
No, just no. This actually makes my point btw. The idea that somehow we need someone with Trump in their name to save us and that is the most important characteristic. Forget the fact Eric would be unknown without his last name and isn't even the most successful of his siblings.Pichael Thompson said:
I hope Eric makes a move in 28
Dude is a MAGA Beast that has avoided the spotlight for the most part, but he's extremely talented & would have direct access to the GOAT
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
No, but you are close. Trump chose poorly in supporting both of them. Inevitably someone will replace Trump and it is evident a lot of folks will be quickly disappointed and become discouraged whomever it is. A lot of folks just love the personality as much as the policy and no one else is him. Those folks will find a reason to either turn on whomever replaces him or simply disengage, either one allows the socialists to fill the void.Ulysses90 said:aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
If the implication is that political support an donations should go to the GOP directly so that Thune and Johnson can determine who gets it, **** that.
I don't want it to happen but it's a very real concern. Vance is probably the best hope. I truly wish Trump would bring DeSantis in closer to his circle as I have stated many times as well. Still I fear a significant portion of Trump supporters will turn on either of them because inevitably they aren't Trump. The folks who can't wait for Barron or wanting someone like Eric remind me of when people loved anyone named Bush not all that long ago, they just can't see it.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
I hope so, I truly do. Still he has to make that support for him translate to them and others and so far that hasn't worked very well. 2026 will be a big test.TAMU1990 said:
Trump is thinking about his successors - which is why Vance is VP and Rubio is SOS. That's going to be the ticket in 2028. He wants MAGA to continue.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
Vance and DeSantis are not going to appeal to black and Hispanic men the way Trump does. It's going to take someone different to keep this MAGA machine rolling after Trump's term ends.
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
Vance and DeSantis are not going to appeal to black and Hispanic men the way Trump does. It's going to take someone different to keep this MAGA machine rolling after Trump's term ends.
I think Vance can get there. If Trump's caustic, no hold barred wit is seen as a value to these groups, then Vance is on his way.
I think Desantis is just too much of a nerd to get there. What he's accomplished in Florida is all-time amazing at the state level though. Best governor in the USA.
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
Vance and DeSantis are not going to appeal to black and Hispanic men the way Trump does. It's going to take someone different to keep this MAGA machine rolling after Trump's term ends.
The people after Trump will be fine on policy as long as they keep America first. And that's the real difference. America first, then the rest of the world.
e=mc2 said:Juan Lee Pettimore said:
Vance and DeSantis are not going to appeal to black and Hispanic men the way Trump does. It's going to take someone different to keep this MAGA machine rolling after Trump's term ends.
The people after Trump will be fine on policy as long as they keep America first. And that's the real difference. America first, then the rest of the world.
The dismantling of the MSM narrative and gutting of the deep state black funding schemes will also help tremendously. It already is amazing and will hopefully become more obvious in the near future how this money was being used to shape an alternative progressive false reality here and abroad. Much of the radical lefts money and "support" is almost magically drying up.
Sh****SLC said:Trump is the president now because the 81 million that voted for Biden in 2020 were not around in 2024 for some reason. Oddly numbers went back to norms in 2024. It's really weird where 20 million people went.aggie93 said:
That's not the worry. The worry is that Trump is a 1 Term President and we don't know if he can translate what he has to a sustained movement. MAGA is the dominant force in the GOP but it is unknown if that continues after Trump and what that looks like. It's the danger of a cult of personality, it's hard to translate it to the next guy. I really hope it does, the Dems have gone completely insane.
I'll go to my grave believing the 2020 election was flat out stolen.
As said earler, the GOP has a deep bench. I like Rubio, Vance and De Santis.
If Eric Trump interested, he speaks well, is smart and the name will help.
He could rise quickly. Somehow we had a peanut farmer and a city organizer become our Pres.
If Eric Trump interested, he speaks well, is smart and the name will help.
He could rise quickly. Somehow we had a peanut farmer and a city organizer become our Pres.
We've learned that majority of US politicians are just ****ty lawyers that never ran anything in their lives. When a good candidate comes around they just sue and smear. Hell NYC is actually trying to elect a 33 year old trust fund baby whos a communist. Future looks bleak.
I mean if you compare the Republican bench (Vance, Rubio, DeSantis, Younkin, etc.) to the Dem bench (AOC, Crockett, Newsome, etc.) it is no contest. It is hard for men to relate to anyone the Dems have to throw out there except maybe Newsome, but he is super flawed because his state is such a disaster and people are rapidly fleeing from there, despite it being the most beautiful state in the US.
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