Official stance, no regime change

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FobTies
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3:19p, 6/24/25
It has been a bit murky with off the cuff comments and posts (ie MIGA), but today a clear ask and answer at end of this clip.

She says Rubio and Trump believe regime change is in hands of the people of Iran, not the US. Let's hope that doesnt include billions of our tax dollars in aid. The Israelis and EU can foot the bill if they need assistance. We did our part with the bombers.

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Farmer_J
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3:21p, 6/24/25

Sad day for Neocon's
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bobbranco
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3:28p, 6/24/25
I don't care if the Iranians change their leadership.
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rgvag11
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3:31p, 6/24/25
When the administration gets onboard with regime change, the negotiations are failed and unsalvageable.
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MouthBQ98
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3:40p, 6/24/25
Yep. I don't care who it is as long as they stop causing problems for us. If the Iranians want a change, they can put in the effort.
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3:41p, 6/24/25
Hope this is truly the stance of POTUS but also wouldn't be surprised if he truths out he supports regime change by the end of the day.
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Ciboag96
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3:51p, 6/24/25
It's either:

- death to infidels and women in chains

Or

- men in drag and in women's bathrooms.


There is no middle anymore
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4:01p, 6/24/25
I listened to it, and the answer is actually pretty evasive. It's a generic statement that doesn't really take anything off the table.

Still, I suspect that you're right. Trump doesn't want to deal with regime change in Iran. Who could blame him? If he can't have a big, beautiful nuclear deal that wins him a Nobel peace prize, then he'll just kick the can down the road. That's not a bad thing.
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In reply to Ciboag96 • 4:06p, 6/24/25
Ciboag96 said:
It's either:

- death to infidels and women in chains

Or

- men in drag and in women's bathrooms.


There is no middle anymore
When you put it like that, drag queens don't sound very scary.
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annie88
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In reply to FobTies • 5:04p, 6/24/25
Honestly, every leader of Iran that pushes this regime should be executed.

Flat out.

Clean slate, start over.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
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In reply to esteban • 5:04p, 6/24/25
esteban said:
Ciboag96 said:
It's either:

- death to infidels and women in chains

Or

- men in drag and in women's bathrooms.


There is no middle anymore
When you put it like that, drag queens don't sound very scary.
Who says drag queen are scary?

They're not appropriate to be around children or groom them.

It's not even that hard.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
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5:05p, 6/24/25
Good Trump
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Farmer_J
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5:14p, 6/24/25

I find it hard to believe the cia can't take out the whole group of mullahs tomorrow if they wanted to.

Yes, that would make Israel safer, but there's probably no money in it. If we destroy the country and send in troops, then defense contractors and international corporations are free to loot and pillage.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 5:14p, 6/24/25
MouthBQ98 said:
Yep. I don't care who it is as long as they stop causing problems for us. If the Iranians want a change, they can put in the effort.
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In reply to rgvag11 • 5:15p, 6/24/25
rgvag11 said:
When the administration gets onboard with regime change, the negotiations are failed and unsalvageable.

Do you think it would be good or bad for Iran to undergo regime change?
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aggiehawg
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5:18p, 6/24/25
Iran has a long history of other countries interfering in their leadership, going back to the 1920s. They are more resistant if the notion comes from outside as a result.

Having said that, Iran's neighbors very nearby can work behind the scenes and I am not talking about Mossad. Although Mossad could help, if asked nicely...by a regime they could trust. Maybe Egypt?
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In reply to FobTies • 5:43p, 6/24/25
Translation: polling came out on starting another middle eastern war, the populist realized it was unpopular, new stance.
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Im Gipper
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In reply to Ag_of_08 • 5:44p, 6/24/25
Try again!


Truth is there is no "official" stance. Trump masterfully keeeps them guessing.

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Farmer_J • 6:01p, 6/24/25
Farmer_J said:

I find it hard to believe the cia can't take out the whole group of mullahs tomorrow if they wanted to.

Yes, that would make Israel safer, but there's probably no money in it. If we destroy the country and send in troops, then defense contractors and international corporations are free to loot and pillage.
CIA? I doubt that. Mossad probably but not the CIA.
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In reply to Teslag • 6:07p, 6/24/25
Teslag said:
rgvag11 said:
When the administration gets onboard with regime change, the negotiations are failed and unsalvageable.

Do you think it would be good or bad for Iran to undergo regime change?
Can you see into the future and tell us who is in charge? Because the US track record in regards to regime change is pretty ****ty. Does regime change end with a Constitutional Republic with representative government and a free market economy or do we get Al-Qaeda/Taliban/more radical Islamists?
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 6:16p, 6/24/25
MouthBQ98 said:
Yep. I don't care who it is as long as they stop causing problems for us. If the Iranians want a change, they can put in the effort.

I agree that they have to do it, but you ought to care. Cause of it remains the current crew, they WILL continue causing problems for us.

They've sworn to do it.
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In reply to annie88 • 6:18p, 6/24/25
annie88 said:
esteban said:
Ciboag96 said:
It's either:

- death to infidels and women in chains

Or

- men in drag and in women's bathrooms.


There is no middle anymore
When you put it like that, drag queens don't sound very scary.
Who says drag queen are scary?

They're not appropriate to be around children or groom them.

It's not even that hard.

I say they are scary.

They are the embodiment of evil.
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In reply to bobbranco • 6:24p, 6/24/25
bobbranco said:
I don't care if the Iranians change their leadership.


You should. The current set are awful.
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In reply to Farmer_J • 6:34p, 6/24/25
Farmer_J said:

Sad day for Neocon's

Sad day for neocon's what?
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6:42p, 6/24/25
Deception is the norm in war.

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6:49p, 6/24/25
When have attempted regime changes worked for good? Noriega might be the only one.
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In reply to Buford T. Justice • 6:54p, 6/24/25
Buford T. Justice said:
When have attempted regime changes worked for good? Noriega might be the only one.
DeGaulle? We kept him alive. Not that did us any good but France somewhat survived.
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6:56p, 6/24/25
This is back to Trump messaging
You can't get on 'truth social' talking about regime change and then not expect people to talk about how you talked about regime change.

He's right, regime change is dirty and nothing we should be involved in, so don't tweet or whatever about it. You're the President, you can't expect people not to talk about what you say:
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Im Gipper
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 6:58p, 6/24/25
The discussion is exactly as Trump expected.

I'm Gipper
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In reply to bobbranco • 7:18p, 6/24/25
bobbranco said:
I don't care if the Iranians change their leadership.


You should. It will directly effect whether or not they try to build a weapon again moving forward.

But that's in the hands of the Iranian people. Us installing a government will only foment more chaos and resentment than it eliminates long-term.
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In reply to Jet White • 9:30p, 6/24/25
Jet White said:
bobbranco said:
I don't care if the Iranians change their leadership.


You should. It will directly effect whether or not they try to build a weapon again moving forward.

But that's in the hands of the Iranian people. Us installing a government will only foment more chaos and resentment than it eliminates long-term.

Oh really!?
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In reply to Farmer_J • 7:40a, 6/25/25
Farmer_J said:

Sad day for Neocon's
And dems.
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In reply to one safe place • 7:50a, 6/25/25
one safe place said:
Farmer_J said:

I find it hard to believe the cia can't take out the whole group of mullahs tomorrow if they wanted to.

Yes, that would make Israel safer, but there's probably no money in it. If we destroy the country and send in troops, then defense contractors and international corporations are free to loot and pillage.
CIA? I doubt that. Mossad probably but not the CIA.
The fact that the Mossad hasn't done this (yet) tells me that it's either a bad idea to do so and/or it's not so easy after all
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In reply to agent-maroon • 8:02a, 6/25/25
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The fact that the Mossad hasn't done this (yet) tells me that it's either a bad idea to do so and/or it's not so easy after all
The former is my guess. Don't know who who become the new leader, a viable alternative.

If the Mossad wanted to take Khamenei out, they could do so.
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