Huge foreign relations win for Trump…

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annie88
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Oh dear God, this lying sack of garbage.

Beto sucks. I mean the guy is horrible. He knows he's lying and he doesn't care. Guess he has egg on his face again.

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Red Fishing Ag93
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All of us cultists have been trying to tell ya.
AtticusMatlock
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Iran just violated the deal with another missile launch well after the ceasefire. Israel is about to pound Tehran again.
Pumpkinhead
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AtticusMatlock said:

Iran just violated the deal with another missile launch well after the ceasefire. Israel is about to pound Tehran again.


Yeah, I appreciate the job Trump has done thus far on this but he shouldn't have made 'Mission Accomplished! Peace Forever! ' statements because the Middle East is an endless religious conflict and any ceasefire there is temporary by nature. Looks like this one didn't even last a day. Any U.S.President thinking they have brokered some sort of lasting peace there has deluded himself from reality.
fc2112
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Tap the brakes - one eager Iranian and one overzealous minister does not a cease fire kill.
Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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Pumpkinhead said:

AtticusMatlock said:

Iran just violated the deal with another missile launch well after the ceasefire. Israel is about to pound Tehran again.


Yeah, I appreciate the job Trump has done thus far on this but he shouldn't have made 'Mission Accomplished! Peace Forever! ' statements because the Middle East is an endless religious conflict and any ceasefire there is temporary by nature. Looks like this one didn't even last a day. Any U.S.President thinking they have brokered some sort of lasting peace there has deluded himself from reality.


I guess you have never heard Trump speak before?

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BMX Bandit
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Sounds like propaganda.

txaggie_08
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Tucker has gone off the deep end.
Jason C.
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txaggie_08 said:

Tucker has gone off the deep end.


Or he purchased at the price of his own credibility (not insignificant) a far more cautious and reserved exercise of US foreign military intervention?
BMX Bandit
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The demon that mauled him has caused him to know be pro anyone but America

AtticusMatlock
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JFC

AtticusMatlock
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aTmAg
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Good gawd. If that truth social is not a fake, then I went from thinking Trump maybe had a clue about foreign policy, to being proven he does not.
BQ78
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FireAg said:

No other way to slice it…

Iran's ability to make a nuke has been shattered…

Israel did everything but what the US had to do with the MOP's…

Potential for peace with the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the ME…

Neither China nor Russia came to help…

No WW3…

Pretty big feather for orange man to stick in his combover…

Very impressive…


Or not
TSUAggie
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Dude, don't you know this is just Trump playing 4D chess?
aggiedent
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These are two countries that have shown time and time again that they are going to do whatever the hell they want.

This so called ceasefire agreement was developed so quickly, it was pretty obvious a 101 things could sabotage it. And again, these are two countries whose word you can't always trust.

Trump did believe them and it backfired. That simple.
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aTmAg said:

Good gawd. If that truth social is not a fake, then I went from thinking Trump maybe had a clue about foreign policy, to being proven he does not.


Sounds like it worked perfectly as Israel is not dropping the bombs and are just gonna fly over Iran and return home.
Lance in Round Mountain
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Stupe said:

FireAg said:

Stupe said:

Not only did China not help....they put Iran in their place when they threatened to shut down Hormuz.

Without question…I think that was the last card Iran had to play, and China told them to sit down…
If Iran has any common sense, they will be telling their sleeper cells the same thing.

Unfortunately, Iran and common sense are not synonymous. Expect Hamas funded cells to be active.
rsf0626
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Ceasefire lasted all of one day lol
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laavispa
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Not that there is an honest news source- most all are propaganda of one type. BUT.

This comment from Jerusalem Post:

"I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, 'OK now you have 12 hours,' you don't go out to the first hour, just drop everything you have on, so I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either," he said.

The US president then said he was upset at Israel for unloading bombs on Tehran before the ceasefire took effect. "


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"I didn't like the fact that Israel unloaded right after we made the deal. They didn't have to unload, and I didn't like the fact that -- the retaliation was very strong. But in all fairness, Israel unloaded a lot. And now Israel just went out because they felt it was violated by one rocket that didn't land anywhere. That's not what we want," Trump said.
Trump also said "I think they both" violated the ceasefire deal.
"You know what we have? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f--- they're doing. Do you understand that?" Trump added.

I for one, never expected Iran to honor any ceasefire with any Kafir country or leader.

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annie88 said:

Oh dear God, this lying sack of garbage.

Beto sucks. I mean the guy is horrible. He knows he's lying and he doesn't care. Guess he has egg on his face again.


Watching the hand actions and waving by Beto and the other soy boys in the video is hilarious.
Watch the bald guy in the black shirt behind Beta wave to someone in the crowd. Lmao.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Pumpkinhead said:

AtticusMatlock said:

Iran just violated the deal with another missile launch well after the ceasefire. Israel is about to pound Tehran again.


Yeah, I appreciate the job Trump has done thus far on this but he shouldn't have made 'Mission Accomplished! Peace Forever! ' statements because the Middle East is an endless religious conflict and any ceasefire there is temporary by nature. Looks like this one didn't even last a day. Any U.S.President thinking they have brokered some sort of lasting peace there has deluded himself from reality.


I guess you have never heard Trump speak before?


I have heard him speak and I think it will be a notable achievement if Iran's nuclear program was set back at least a decade without sparking a prolonged conflict costing American casualties. That would be an A+ accomplishment.

Any Bragging though about the events of the last 12 days now producing a long term peace in the Middle East , I put those sort of Trump comments in his greatly exaggerated boasts category.
aggiegolfer2012
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Wish he'd learn when it's time to watch and see how things go before declaring victory. Think he's done a pretty good job on this so far, but claiming peace and trusting Iran is going to operate in good faith on a ceasefire deal before it goes into effect when they have so many terror groups they sponsor is a bad idea.
FireAg
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I'd bet a good amount that it gets sorted out this morning and things go quiet…

This has the feel of "who gets the last word before everyone calms down"…
Artimus Gordon
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Obviously these two countries will have to learn the hard way. They'll be just another couple of zalensky's on the world stage.
FireAg
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Sounds like things have quieted now…
ts5641
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annie88 said:

Oh dear God, this lying sack of garbage.

Beto sucks. I mean the guy is horrible. He knows he's lying and he doesn't care. Guess he has egg on his face again.


Why do they keep putting this clown on stage? Strange they won't let this 3 time loser go.
aggiedent
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FireAg said:

I'd bet a good amount that it gets sorted out this morning and things go quiet…

This has the feel of "who gets the last word before everyone calms down"…


We'll see.

If we're being perfectly honest though, in this part of the world, any agreement is one millisecond away from being broken and hostilities breaking out. Fragile peace is an apt description.

And what happens if intelligence shows Iran had already moved large quantities of enriched uranium to other locations? Will we allow Israel to go after it?
FireAg
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Well…enriched to what level?

If it's still not weapons grade, and the ability to enrich it further has been destroyed, it's still pretty useless, no?
aggiedent
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FireAg said:

Well…enriched to what level?

If it's still not weapons grade, and the ability to enrich it further has been destroyed, it's still pretty useless, no?


Well………what if we don't know the answer to that. The Trump administration said intelligence "thought" they had enriched it to "near" weapons grade.

In response to your question, here are a couple things to consider.

1. Russia can put them back on track in months if they wish.
2. Near weapons grade uranium can make for one hell of a dirty bomb.
FireAg
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Then I guess we can play the 'what if' game until we are blue in the face…

Have to trust that between Mossad and CIA that we know the score and have a good grasp on things…

I mean…what else can you really do?
agent-maroon
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aggiedent said:

FireAg said:

Well…enriched to what level?

If it's still not weapons grade, and the ability to enrich it further has been destroyed, it's still pretty useless, no?


Well………what if we don't know the answer to that. The Trump administration said intelligence "thought" they had enriched it to "near" weapons grade.

In response to your question, here are a couple things to consider.

1. Russia can put them back on track in months if they wish.
2. Near weapons grade uranium can make for one hell of a dirty bomb.



Googled just now. Surprised me with this response
SwigAg11
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Correct, relatively speaking, uranium does not produce much damaging radiation since it's an alpha emitter (stopped by piece of paper or your skin) and has a very long half life, so it decays very slowly.

Instead, you want a short half-life gamma/beta emitter such as cobalt 60 or cesium 137.
FireAg
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Sounds like a hiccup in who got to have the last word…but being confirmed now that Israeli planes have indeed turned around…

Sorry to ruin your narrative…
aggiegolfer2012
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FireAg said:

Then I guess we can play the 'what if' game until we are blue in the face…

Have to trust that between Mossad and CIA that we know the score and have a good grasp on things…

I mean…what else can you really do?


First, think we've done pretty good to this point.
But, if this was a democrat in office and the VP answered the question about the uranium the way Vance did last night, we'd all be up in arms about where the 400kg went.
I think they really need to come up with a better answer for that, but I also think that takes time, which is part of the problem of rushing to declare success.
 
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