Logos Stick said:

---

Gore is the inventor of the Internet, not the Godfather of it.

The Internet was also not revolutionary either, just like this AI stuff. It's just a big ole nothing burger that's been around since the beginning /FTC

---

It's interesting as another computer aide and the growth in ability and complexity in the past few years is impressive.

Neural networks as a concept were around a long time before this Godfather fella. Hell, even this guys co-recipient of the Noble trophy had been working on it for 50-60 years.

I absolutely think the AI bidness is massively overblown but like the internet it gets people all excited.

I have said before, it's more RA than AI. It can make you faster, more efficient but lawd it sho don't make you smarter.

YouBet said:

---

We are still in the fog of war stage with AI. It absolutely is going to impact society, culture, and the economy. It already has, obviously. Many companies have done significant layoffs citing AI advances and also are not hiring certain job roles because they've taken an "AI First" approach (including my own company).

At a minimum, anyone that can't acknowledge its potential to do both massive harm and good (as with all new tech) is ignorant of history and/or doesn't understand how the world works.

---

Americans are blessed to not have to worry about this future because our debt will collapse upon us and destroy it all.

You can both acknowledge its potential whilst not overblowing it. Lots of fantastical futures are thrown out about AI, reality is much more likely to be it's a tool, like a car, calculator, microwave, PC, smartphone that just folds into your daily life.

There was a huge panic over Y2K. But perhaps it turned out to be a nothingburger because we all panicked over it.

GeorgiAg said:

---

There was a huge panic over Y2K. But perhaps it turned out to be a nothingburger because we all panicked over it.

---

It was not a nothing burger. Do you have any idea how much money and manpower was spent modifying code and data during the previous years to make everything function on the rollover?

Logos Stick said:

---

GeorgiAg said:

---

There was a huge panic over Y2K. But perhaps it turned out to be a nothingburger because we all panicked over it.

---

It was not a nothing burger. Do you have any idea how much money and manpower was spent modifying code and data during the previous years to make everything function on the rollover?

---

I spent part of my internship with a big accounting firm inventorying coffee makers with clocks and making sure they were y2k compliant. They charged this big oil tools company a few hundred bucks an hour for my expertise.

Yes, ungodly amounts of money spent on this crap all because chump coders were saving bits back in the 60s and no one ever considered dealing with the turn of the millennia until the last 2 years of said millennia.

Hysteria causes people to be foolish with funds. Same is happening with AI.

Inventors have a tendency to overestimate the impact of their inventions on society. Dean Kamen asserted that Segways would fundamentally change personal mobility to the extent that cars would be unnecessary in cities.

TexAgs91 said:

---

Muy said:

---

El Gallo Blanco said:

---

Human beings are so stupid and shortsighted. "Hey let's create the thing that is going to upend society and take everyone's jobs and possibly eventually kill us all because it's really cool and fascinating tech!"

---

Not sure I get this take. If someone can come up with an idea that changes the world, should we wish they never came up with it because it changed the world?

---

You sound like Obama talking about change for the sake of change.

Theres good change, and there's 'let's fundamentally change America' change.

---

I didn't say that at all. I said if something actually changes the world, it's not automatically bad because we don't understand it yet. Obama wanted government to control change, and that change served his party in gaining more power.

Logos Stick said:

---

Another good piece of advice he gave: spend time with your kids when they are little. I also regret not doing this. Most men get too caught up in their work and careers are piss poor at time management & prioritizing, You only get one bite at the apple.

---

fify

You can easily work 50+ hour weeks and still spend more quality time with your kids that they even want you to

Muy said:

---

TexAgs91 said:

---

Muy said:

---

El Gallo Blanco said:

---

Human beings are so stupid and shortsighted. "Hey let's create the thing that is going to upend society and take everyone's jobs and possibly eventually kill us all because it's really cool and fascinating tech!"

---

Not sure I get this take. If someone can come up with an idea that changes the world, should we wish they never came up with it because it changed the world?

---

You sound like Obama talking about change for the sake of change.

Theres good change, and there's 'let's fundamentally change America' change.

---

I didn't say that at all. I said if something actually changes the world, it's not automatically bad because we don't understand it yet. Obama wanted government to control change, and that change served his party in gaining more power.

---

Usually if something changes the world you don't get to say, "oh that change was bad. Let's go back to how it was". Yeah, it could be a good change. Great. But if it's not, we've screwed ourselves. When contemplating something that changes the world, let's think about it first, rather than rolling the dice and hoping it turns out well.

Elon Musk: "I guess I'd sort of agree with Geoff Hinton that maybe it's a 10% to 20% chance of annihilation. But look on the bright side, that's 80% to 90% probability of a great outcome."pic.twitter.com/Pg5hdwB3jW

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) June 22, 2025

This is all super naive. AI is similar to other tech force multipliers. Productivity will skyrocket again. A single person who is proficient with AI can now do the work of 3-5 ppl. Companies who use this to reduce workforce will get left behind by those who use this to force multiply their workforce.

The hardware and energy capacity, and model capability will take a decade+ to be able to truly replace significant portions of the workforce.

samurai_science said:

---

Its worse than you think:

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5360220-chatgpt-use-linked-to-cognitive-decline-mit-research/

ChatGPT use linked to cognitive decline: MIT research


They discovered that subjects who used ChatGPT over a few months had the lowest brain engagement and "consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels


https://www.edtechinnovationhub.com/news/mit-study-shows-chatgpt-reshapes-student-brain-function-and-reduces-creativity-when-used-from-the-start

MIT study shows ChatGPT reshapes student brain function and reduces creativity when used from the start

---

I don't have any faith in academic studies. Besides, they probably used ChatGPT to do the study.

91Challenger said:

---

Everyone know Harold Finch is the father of AI.

All kidding aside, AI is growing exponentially, which requires a very different thinking for us humans.

Dramatic change is coming.

The first wave of change in Jillian evolution was going from hunter/gatherer to farmer.

The second wave was going from farming to industrialization.

The third wave was the digital revolution, going from industrialization to the internet.

I used to think material sciences would be the fourth wave. But. Ow I realize AI is the actual fourth wave.

Each of the first three waves changed our entire human existence. AI will be just as dramatic a change as those first three waves changed

---

The potential downsides of AI seem to far outweigh the downsides of your first 3 waves.

FCBlitz said:

---

Tax Accountants and preparers are going to be decimated. How can they not?

---

Doubt it. Maybe the hourly guy at H&R Block, but not actual accountants. In Texas those H&R Block guys can't even call themselves accountants. AI is somewhat helpful but it sure isn't thinking. It isn't telling anyone what the new proposed tax law changes are doing. It isn't applying judgment to any considerations for presentation in financial statements. It isn't taking facts and applying regs to be sure you've got the best of a number of different positions. It isn't assessing your positions for required reserves and estimating probable settlements or determining the best unit of account. And that's just direct tax. Indirect tax is a whole different animal.

You do know that tax is much more than putting numbers on a form, don't you?