But does the phone have bone spurs?IIIHorn said:
When you switch the Trump phone to vibrate it will become twitchy.
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act now and it comes with a leg brace and a girdle for free!eric76 said:But does the phone have bone spurs?IIIHorn said:
When you switch the Trump phone to vibrate it will become twitchy.
flown-the-coop said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Who is being conned? Everything I ever bought from Trump was as advertised, though the toy garbage trucks were made in China.
People have a poor understanding of grifting vs monetizing your brand.
Neither Trump nor his family are grifters.
You would eviscerate Biden for this.
Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Do you own any name brand items? Because you are helplessly ignorant of your own short comings if you do. And a massive hypocrite.
Saxsoon said:flown-the-coop said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Who is being conned? Everything I ever bought from Trump was as advertised, though the toy garbage trucks were made in China.
People have a poor understanding of grifting vs monetizing your brand.
Neither Trump nor his family are grifters.
You would eviscerate Biden for this.
And that would be nothing compared to what maga would be doing if Obama did any of these things.
But like someone said on another post, it's differen(T).
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Saxsoon said:flown-the-coop said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Who is being conned? Everything I ever bought from Trump was as advertised, though the toy garbage trucks were made in China.
People have a poor understanding of grifting vs monetizing your brand.
Neither Trump nor his family are grifters.
You would eviscerate Biden for this.
The Biden's sold US government influence to the highest bidder on the international market. And used tax payer funds as capital.
The Trump family is monetizing a legitimately lucrative name.
Please explain to me how the two things are remotely similiar.
Imagine thinking this is cool. Clowns.
That an unaffiliated company paid the Trump Org to license the Trump NIL for a gimmick cellphone?SigAg6 said:
Imagine thinking this is cool. Clowns.
Seems like a cool deal to me.
BTW - Keeping in mind that POTUS has limited rights regarding his NIL whilst (and even after) being POTUS, this seems like a strategic and intelligent way to a) profit from your already very valuable NIL / celebrity; and b) have some control on the products out there.
1st amendment allows for items bearing the NIL of POTUS to be made and sold WITHOUT licensing.
This is just another Trump gimmick item that people probably will buy in an astonishing number if only to have the item on a shelf or to show off at a party.
To make a leap that this is some sort of grift is asinine. Even worse if some think it indicates some sort of corruption. Luaghable.
Hmmm... what did Nancy Pelosi sell to get so rich?
sleepybeagle
Her soul and our country.sleepybeagle said:
Hmmm... what did Nancy Pelosi sell to get so rich?
She learned it from her daddy. Like Biden, the D'Alesandro political crime family spans multiple generations.Tramp96 said:Her soul and our country.sleepybeagle said:
Hmmm... what did Nancy Pelosi sell to get so rich?
Our country needs this guy to go to Washington and get the damn money changers out of our government. Congress is a bunch of thieves and Trump is as corrupt as they come.
Trump, if a crook, is an "honest crook". What you see is what you get, e.g. "Here, I'm selling a phone."
Contrast to Bidens, Clintons, Pelosi, et al that deny any personal gain whatsoever and couch all they do in nobility and innocence.
Contrast to Bidens, Clintons, Pelosi, et al that deny any personal gain whatsoever and couch all they do in nobility and innocence.
Im confused here are people being forced to buy Trump's products? ill hang up and listen.
Cougar11 said:
Im confused here are people being forced to buy Trump's products? ill hang up and listen.
Yes. All libs have been loaded onto trains (ring a bell?), their money stolen and converted to $TRUMP, then forced to buy Trump sneakers, Trump Bibles, Trump cell phones and Melania meme coins.
It's a global travesty. We would have been much, much better off under Obama 4.0 (aka comma-la knee pads).
Silent For Too Long said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Do you own any name brand items? Because you are helplessly ignorant of your own short comings if you do. And a massive hypocrite.
Trump is using the office of the Presidency to enrich himself. It is wrong no matter who does it. This is the argument. Follow along.
Since you didn't answer the first time, I will post the same question again...Wyoming Aggie said:Silent For Too Long said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Do you own any name brand items? Because you are helplessly ignorant of your own short comings if you do. And a massive hypocrite.
Trump is using the office of the Presidency to enrich himself. It is wrong no matter who does it. This is the argument. Follow along.
Do you see the Presidential Seal or "the Official Phone of the 45 & 47th President of the United States"? Did Trump post film a commercial in the Oval Office? Because those things could lead to an accusation he is monetizing the office.
How in the everliving heck is it swampy to license your brand for money? Should the Texas Aggies United swamp that licenses NIL from student athletes be drained?
flown-the-coop said:Since you didn't answer the first time, I will post the same question again...Wyoming Aggie said:Silent For Too Long said:Wyoming Aggie said:flown-the-coop said:
Who's grifting?
The entire Trump family. I mean, hey, good for them, politicians have been doing it for decades in America. It's just amazing to me how there are actual breathing human beings that buy into this crap.
Do you own any name brand items? Because you are helplessly ignorant of your own short comings if you do. And a massive hypocrite.
Trump is using the office of the Presidency to enrich himself. It is wrong no matter who does it. This is the argument. Follow along.
Do you see the Presidential Seal or "the Official Phone of the 45 & 47th President of the United States"? Did Trump post film a commercial in the Oval Office? Because those things could lead to an accusation he is monetizing the office.
How in the everliving heck is it swampy to license your brand for money? Should the Texas Aggies United swamp that licenses NIL from student athletes be drained?
My God do you think Trump would be able to do this if he wasn't POTUS and didn't have a bunch of brain dead followers?
He is absolutely 100% using the visibility of the office of the presidency to promote products using his name.
Again, it is wrong no matter who does it. Trump has always been in it for himself. An actual leader wouldn't allow **** like this to go on while currently sitting in office.
Oh and he is promoting it for $47.45. Gee I wonder where they came up with that figure.
Wyoming Aggie said:
My God do you think Trump would be able to do this if he wasn't POTUS and didn't have a bunch of brain dead followers? [YES! And he has pimped Trump branded products for decades now. Heck, even had his own show on network TV that was nothing but him pimping his brand]
He is absolutely 100% using the visibility of the office of the presidency to promote products using his name. [He has not used his OFFICE to promote a product using his name. Did he end his last presser with a Trump Mobile advertisement? You are making this up and its a sad, TDS-infused look.]
Again, it is wrong no matter who does it. Trump has always been in it for himself. An actual leader wouldn't allow **** like this to go on while currently sitting in office. [Maybe if your lie above were not a lie, we could start proper comparisons.]
Oh and he is promoting it for $47.45. Gee I wonder where they came up with that figure. [Not sure how to say it slowly via typing... but $47.45 is gimmicky and of course alludes to his time as POTUS, anyone else can make Trump 47/45 shirts and sell them. I covered this several times but you still want to get Trump. Relax. Go enjoy a sunset. You are trying to make an issue here that does NOT exist.]
cecil77 said:
Trump, if a crook, is an "honest crook". What you see is what you get, e.g. "Here, I'm selling a phone."
Contrast to Bidens, Clintons, Pelosi, et al that deny any personal gain whatsoever and couch all they do in nobility and innocence.
That's just silly. He's been in real estate development in NYC for way too long to be "clean". I chalk it up to how things are done but I'll comfortably say that he's not an honest crook. I'll say the same thing about any major developer in NYC, not just Trump so spare me the TDS charge.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
flown-the-coop said:Wyoming Aggie said:
My God do you think Trump would be able to do this if he wasn't POTUS and didn't have a bunch of brain dead followers? [YES! And he has pimped Trump branded products for decades now. Heck, even had his own show on network TV that was nothing but him pimping his brand]
He is absolutely 100% using the visibility of the office of the presidency to promote products using his name. [He has not used his OFFICE to promote a product using his name. Did he end his last presser with a Trump Mobile advertisement? You are making this up and its a sad, TDS-infused look.]
Again, it is wrong no matter who does it. Trump has always been in it for himself. An actual leader wouldn't allow **** like this to go on while currently sitting in office. [Maybe if your lie above were not a lie, we could start proper comparisons.]
Oh and he is promoting it for $47.45. Gee I wonder where they came up with that figure. [Not sure how to say it slowly via typing... but $47.45 is gimmicky and of course alludes to his time as POTUS, anyone else can make Trump 47/45 shirts and sell them. I covered this several times but you still want to get Trump. Relax. Go enjoy a sunset. You are trying to make an issue here that does NOT exist.]
You would be ****ting in your pants if Obama or Biden was doing this.
Trump only ran for POTUS so he could enrich his family and that is abundantly clear now.
And he somehow got millions of people to believe a multi-billionaire cared about them. Not only that, they worship him. It's going to be studied for decades how a billionaire somehow convinced middle class morons that he cares about anything else but enriching himself.
I pray for your TDS.
And projecting how I may or may not feel about another POTUS in no way correlates to there is NOTHING WRONG with what Trump is doing here.
Its simply you do not like it. You even willfully ignore the facts regarding legality you just simply do not like it because you don't like Trump.
Its ok, I get it.
And projecting how I may or may not feel about another POTUS in no way correlates to there is NOTHING WRONG with what Trump is doing here.
Its simply you do not like it. You even willfully ignore the facts regarding legality you just simply do not like it because you don't like Trump.
Its ok, I get it.
flown-the-coop said:Wyoming Aggie said:
My God do you think Trump would be able to do this if he wasn't POTUS and didn't have a bunch of brain dead followers? [YES! And he has pimped Trump branded products for decades now. Heck, even had his own show on network TV that was nothing but him pimping his brand]
He is absolutely 100% using the visibility of the office of the presidency to promote products using his name. [He has not used his OFFICE to promote a product using his name. Did he end his last presser with a Trump Mobile advertisement? You are making this up and its a sad, TDS-infused look.]
Again, it is wrong no matter who does it. Trump has always been in it for himself. An actual leader wouldn't allow **** like this to go on while currently sitting in office. [Maybe if your lie above were not a lie, we could start proper comparisons.]
Oh and he is promoting it for $47.45. Gee I wonder where they came up with that figure. [Not sure how to say it slowly via typing... but $47.45 is gimmicky and of course alludes to his time as POTUS, anyone else can make Trump 47/45 shirts and sell them. I covered this several times but you still want to get Trump. Relax. Go enjoy a sunset. You are trying to make an issue here that does NOT exist.]
Good job.
Be sure to answer the foolish arguments of fools, or they will become wise in their own estimation.
-Proverbs 26:5 (NLT)
Trump will fix it.
flown-the-coop said:
I pray for your TDS.
And projecting how I may or may not feel about another POTUS in no way correlates to there is NOTHING WRONG with what Trump is doing here.
Its simply you do not like it. You even willfully ignore the facts regarding legality you just simply do not like it because you don't like Trump.
Its ok, I get it.
It has nothing to do with legality, dude. It's unethical and a real leader wouldn't allow this crap to go on while they were sitting in office.
Oh, and bless your heart. You think I have TDS. That's cute. I hate republicans and democrats equally.
Trump was exactly right when he talked about his blind followers. He could shoot someone in the middle of fifth ave and they'd find a way to justify it.
You seem to hate people who have a recognizable brand and seek to monetize it in legal ways. And then you seem to also hate about 75% of the Country. Congrats?Wyoming Aggie said:
It has nothing to do with legality, dude. It's unethical and a real leader wouldn't allow this crap to go on while they were sitting in office.
Oh, and bless your heart. You think I have TDS. That's cute. I hate republicans and democrats equally.
Trump was exactly right when he talked about his blind followers. He could shoot someone in the middle of fifth ave and they'd find a way to justify it.
Can you point me to the ethics violation? Beyond the "I just don't like it so it violates my ethics and is thus unethical" bit?
Trump sure seems to have made his point with that comment. He could have also said "I could justifiably support Israel against Iran and TDS folk would find a way to accuse me of murder & tyranny".
We get it, you hate Trump, Republicans, Democrats, the law, and any sort of logical discussion on a topic. Just hate.
I suggest maybe taking the hate elsewhere. Enjoy life, hate less.
flown-the-coop said:You seem to hate people who have a recognizable brand and seek to monetize it in legal ways. And then you seem to also hate about 75% of the Country. Congrats?Wyoming Aggie said:
It has nothing to do with legality, dude. It's unethical and a real leader wouldn't allow this crap to go on while they were sitting in office.
Oh, and bless your heart. You think I have TDS. That's cute. I hate republicans and democrats equally.
Trump was exactly right when he talked about his blind followers. He could shoot someone in the middle of fifth ave and they'd find a way to justify it.
Can you point me to the ethics violation? Beyond the "I just don't like it so it violates my ethics and is thus unethical" bit?
Trump sure seems to have made his point with that comment. He could have also said "I could justifiably support Israel against Iran and TDS folk would find a way to accuse me of murder & tyranny".
We get it, you hate Trump, Republicans, Democrats, the law, and any sort of logical discussion on a topic. Just hate.
I suggest maybe taking the hate elsewhere. Enjoy life, hate less.
You seriously think it is ok for a sitting president to use their office to enrich their family. You really think that doesn't provide any conflict of interest whatsoever.
I have answered your same accusations over and over again.Wyoming Aggie said:
You seriously think it is ok for a sitting president to use their office to enrich their family.
[Its been explained over and over and over again that is NOT what is happening here. If it were, then I would have a problem with it. So as with others who are prone to do this, its not appropriate to create a false equivalency so suit your position.]
You really think that doesn't provide any conflict of interest whatsoever.
[What conflict of interest? Did he mandate the phones be sold to all public schools and libraries? You know, like Dems do with all their books and biographies? Did he promise not to bomb Iran if the ayatollahs all bought the phones for them and their new leadership team? Did he promise that ICE would no longer arrest illegals who have a current Trump Mobile plan? Cause you are insinuating a conflict of interest that does not exist.]
flown-the-coop said:I have answered your same accusations over and over again.Wyoming Aggie said:
You seriously think it is ok for a sitting president to use their office to enrich their family.
[Its been explained over and over and over again that is NOT what is happening here. If it were, then I would have a problem with it. So as with others who are prone to do this, its not appropriate to create a false equivalency so suit your position.]
You really think that doesn't provide any conflict of interest whatsoever.
[What conflict of interest? Did he mandate the phones be sold to all public schools and libraries? You know, like Dems do with all their books and biographies? Did he promise not to bomb Iran if the ayatollahs all bought the phones for them and their new leadership team? Did he promise that ICE would no longer arrest illegals who have a current Trump Mobile plan? Cause you are insinuating a conflict of interest that does not exist.]
Jesus ****ing Christ they are PUBLIC SERVANTS BEING PAID BY THE TAXPAYER and you don't see a problem with them running multiple enterprises using their office as a means to drive revenue.
What ****ing planet do you live on?
Earth. We have honesty here on this planet. And we can see that this is not what is happening here.
Maybe on planet gaslight, you see things differently.
Maybe on planet gaslight, you see things differently.
While President, Trump is not allowed to conduct business as part of the Trump Organization. And he's not.
His son, who is not a government employee or advisor, is running the corporation.
I don't recall any other President's family not being allowed to run a business that is wholly and completely separate from the U.S. Government and that the President is not managing while he is President.
I am not aware of any law that prevents a corporation that was founded by the President before he ever became President from existing after the founder and CEO leaves the corporation to run the country. Is there such a law?
So what was the Trump organization supposed to do? Close up shop? Not conduct any business with the name "Trump", even though that is literally the name of the corporation?
His son, who is not a government employee or advisor, is running the corporation.
I don't recall any other President's family not being allowed to run a business that is wholly and completely separate from the U.S. Government and that the President is not managing while he is President.
I am not aware of any law that prevents a corporation that was founded by the President before he ever became President from existing after the founder and CEO leaves the corporation to run the country. Is there such a law?
So what was the Trump organization supposed to do? Close up shop? Not conduct any business with the name "Trump", even though that is literally the name of the corporation?
There was a dinner held at the White House for the big buyers of his meme coin. The presidential seal was on full display. That did happen here.flown-the-coop said:
Earth. We have honesty here on this planet. And we can see that this is not what is happening here.
Maybe on planet gaslight, you see things differently.
Gig 'Em
flown-the-coop said:
Earth. We have honesty here on this planet. And we can see that this is not what is happening here.
Maybe on planet gaslight, you see things differently.
Just because something is technically legal doesn't make it ethical. Maybe I just want our POTUS to maybe not create business venture after business venture while holding the office and being paid on taxpayer dime.
They are public servants. Well, they are supposed to be. Trump has never viewed his political career as a public good. He doesn't care about you or me. Just ways to line his pockets.
It'll be fun to see how many other ventures he'll start in the next 3.5 years. And I'm sure you'll buy every single one of them.
I actually don't think it's law that he cannot conduct business. He certainly does not have to divest nor does he have to put it in a blind trust. The latter being tradition of Carter regarding his peanut bidness.
But the executor of the trust took a political position so not sure it accomplished much.
Trump stepping back from Trump Org may be more a matter of convenience than requirement.
I think the meme coin deal was not necessary, it was all done out in the open. People donate to attend POTUS dinners all the time. Or they get invited to recognize their support of POTUS as a politician.
Regardless, unless someone can point to a law being broken or this type of activity never occurring before (see earlier post on Billy Beer), then all the posts above are just TDS noise.
But the executor of the trust took a political position so not sure it accomplished much.
Trump stepping back from Trump Org may be more a matter of convenience than requirement.
I think the meme coin deal was not necessary, it was all done out in the open. People donate to attend POTUS dinners all the time. Or they get invited to recognize their support of POTUS as a politician.
Regardless, unless someone can point to a law being broken or this type of activity never occurring before (see earlier post on Billy Beer), then all the posts above are just TDS noise.
flown-the-coop said:
I actually don't think it's law that he cannot conduct business. He certainly does not have to divest nor does he have to put it in a blind trust. The latter being tradition of Carter regarding his peanut bidness.
But the executor of the trust took a political position so not sure it accomplished much.
Trump stepping back from Trump Org may be more a matter of convenience than requirement.
I think the meme coin deal was not necessary, it was all done out in the open. People donate to attend POTUS dinners all the time. Or they get invited to recognize their support of POTUS as a politician.
Regardless, unless someone can point to a law being broken or this type of activity never occurring before (see earlier post on Billy Beer), then all the posts above are just TDS noise.
Nailed it.
Trump will fix it.
You all are wasting your time. Maga has proven over and over they are going down with the ship. Doesn't matter the topic, the ship, they're going down if Trump is involved. Period.
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