CA asks Fed judge to block Trump's use of NG and USMC to riots

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ProgN
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/trump-marines-newsom-lawsuit-california.html

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California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday asked a federal judge to quickly block the Trump administration's deployment of National Guard members and Marines to Los Angeles to quell protests against immigration raids.

State Attorney General Rob Bonta asked the judge to grant a temporary restraining order blocking President Donald Trump's actions by 1 p.m. PT in order to "prevent immediate and irreparable harm to Plaintiffs."

Without that fast relief, Trump's deployment of the military and the National Guard poses "imminent harm to State Sovereignty, deprives the State of vital resources, escalates tensions and promotes (rather than quells) civil unrest," Bonta told Judge Charles Breyer in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.


I hope the city burns completely if a judge is this ******ed.
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pretty sure they are allowed to protect federal buildings could be wrong,
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ProgN said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/trump-marines-newsom-lawsuit-california.html

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California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday asked a federal judge to quickly block the Trump administration's deployment of National Guard members and Marines to Los Angeles to quell protests against immigration raids.

State Attorney General Rob Bonta asked the judge to grant a temporary restraining order blocking President Donald Trump's actions by 1 p.m. PT in order to "prevent immediate and irreparable harm to Plaintiffs."

Without that fast relief, Trump's deployment of the military and the National Guard poses "imminent harm to State Sovereignty, deprives the State of vital resources, escalates tensions and promotes (rather than quells) civil unrest," Bonta told Judge Charles Breyer in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.


I hope the city burns completely if a judge is this ******ed.
I wonder if a judge feel up to appointing himself Commander in Chief.

I'm gonna bet we find at least one who will think that's the job of Article III.
Ellis Wyatt
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There are no grounds to prevent the Feds from protecting Federal agents and Federal property from terrorists. I am sure Judge Breyer will intervene on behalf of California, a failed state.
AgGrad99
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'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'
Logos Stick
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This is one that Trump will have to ignore, which is what the left wants.
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AgGrad99 said:


'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'
They're protecting Federal agents and Federal property. And conducting legal arrests and deportations.
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I know it goes against the Dems TDS and their propensity to push back on anything implemented by Trump but if Gavin was serious about a presidential run he could've used this to catapult himself.

He could've come out and pushed back on the ICE raids but also spoke out vehemently against the violent protests. He could've stood up and said 'Look we don't agree with these raids but we also don't condemn violence and we're working directly with the POTUS to protect the citizens and property of CA and the US'.

Then afterwards he could've propped himself up for being able to work with Republicans to rid CA of the violence and work for the citizens.

Dems misplayed their hand and missed a huge opportunity.
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Trump administration's deployment of National Guard members and Marines to Los Angeles to quell protests against immigration raids.
I keep hearing this phrase from leftist media. They're not quelling protests, they are quelling violence against federal agents.
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Logos Stick said:

This is one that Trump will have to ignore, which is what the left wants.
I think Thomas or Alito will step in immediately if the judge rules in Newsom's favor.
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They don't care about Americans and the American way of life. They must be impeached.
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AgGrad99 said:


'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'


The President has the responsibility and the authority under Article Ii to enforce federal laws, protect federal property, and protect the constitutional rights of all citizens regardless or not whether they are citizens that have voted themselves a horrible Marxist state government. Article II responsibility ends when that land is no longer one of the United States.
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He could've come out and pushed back on the ICE raids but also spoke out vehemently against the violent protests. He could've stood up and said 'Look we don't agree with these raids but we also don't condemn violence and we're working directly with the POTUS to protect the citizens and property of CA and the US'.
Which would have proven he isn't a serious person, which we already know. These raids are for criminals, not "Maryland dads." Anyone protecting criminals is anti-American and is leaving them open to more crime and to their wealth being stolen from them. It is an indefensible position.
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AgGrad99 said:


'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'


Nope

There's federal property, and more importantly, the 2 biggest sea ports in the U.S. are located there

There are also vulnerable people that need protection that the state isn't providing

You can't let the lunatics take over
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Logos Stick said:

This is one that Trump will have to ignore, which is what the left wants.
It's what the right wants as well. Win-Win
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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Captain Pablo said:

AgGrad99 said:


'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'


Nope

There's federal property, and more importantly, there are ports

There are also vulnerable people that need protection that the state isn't providing

You can't let the lunatics take over

Considering the fact that those vulnerable people live inside the LA City limits, 90% of them probably voted for this.

Let them have what they voted for.
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Captain Pablo said:

AgGrad99 said:


'We completely disagree with this request, but we respect a State's right to choose it's own governance. If they choose to let criminals from other countries destroy their cities, then we will honor their wish. We remain ready to help if it's requested'

That should be the message. 'It's sad, it's terrible, but if it's what you want...'


Nope

There's federal property, and more importantly, there are ports

There are also vulnerable people that need protection that the state isn't providing

You can't let the lunatics take over

Considering the fact that those vulnerable people live inside the LA City limits, 90% of them probably voted for this.

Let them have what they voted for.


Disgusting. Sure lump them all together. Gotta crack a few children and conservatives to make an omlet. Your 10% rule, I guess
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Overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy with mind-bending nonsense is ClowardPiven at work.
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Nope

There's federal property, and more importantly, there are ports

There are also vulnerable people that need protection that the state isn't providing

You can't let the lunatics take over
Tell the judge. Everybody outside of Gavin's administration already seems to understand this
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Seems like Newsome wants parts of LA burned to the ground with the aim of rebuilding their utopian 15-min cities.

Refugees will then be relocated to your city and burn that to the ground too, Rinse and repeat.
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The goal is to give Newsome a big victory where he ejects Trump from LA and then they call off their paid dogs and send them home so he can see "See! It was Trump calling in the NG that caused this! But I saved everyone!"

Neither Trump nor Newsome can back down
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While I'm not supporting of Marines being deployed in LA, I can't see how a judge has the authority to tell the Commander in Chief of the armed forces what to do with said forces. The only check to the CIC's authority would be Congress, no?

Imagine if a rogue judge told W. Bush not to retaliate to the 9/11 attacks. Absolute insanity.
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President is the chief enforcer of the laws for the country. Doing bodily harm to another person as well as destroying someone's property for the sake of protest should get you slapped, metaphorically and physically, to the highest extent that can be imposed.

Hopefully he gets collects some of these idiots on federal land/buildings and ships them to different federal courts around the country.
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So, a judge blocks it, no guard or marines, means all this stops right? I mean it would just stop immediately with no more democrat violence? Right?

Sounds legit
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Foreign policy deployments of armed forces is completely different (though I acknowledge you can't assume they'd respect that). There's overlap and the rules are all grey, but Posse Comitatus is a pretty base level thing. They'd be addressing that, use of armed forces at "home", especially when non-requested by state government.

But, for the record, I agree using federal troops to protect federal agents to/from federal buildings on federally-related actions seems pretty on-point.
Im Gipper
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waitwhat? said:

While I'm not supporting of Marines being deployed in LA, I can't see how a judge has the authority to tell the Commander in Chief of the armed forces what to do with said forces. The only check to the CIC's authority would be Congress, no?

Imagine if a rogue judge told W. Bush not to retaliate to the 9/11 attacks. Absolute insanity.
My understanding from reading the coverage is the the claim is that CA is arguing the law passed by Congress requires the governor to issue the orders when this statute is used to call up the national guard.

One of the resident 10 USC 12406 experts can weigh in on the merits, but I agree with you. I do not think a Federal Judge can stop the president from using troops by way of an injunction!

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They have Rent-A-Judge on speed dial.
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waitwhat? said:

While I'm not supporting of Marines being deployed in LA, I can't see how a judge has the authority to tell the Commander in Chief of the armed forces what to do with said forces. The only check to the CIC's authority would be Congress, no?
Based upon what? He is the Commander in Chief.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

waitwhat? said:

While I'm not supporting of Marines being deployed in LA, I can't see how a judge has the authority to tell the Commander in Chief of the armed forces what to do with said forces. The only check to the CIC's authority would be Congress, no?
Based upon what? He is the Commander in Chief.
Congress' check is the power of the purse or impeachment.
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Im Gipper
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Ellis Wyatt said:

waitwhat? said:

While I'm not supporting of Marines being deployed in LA, I can't see how a judge has the authority to tell the Commander in Chief of the armed forces what to do with said forces. The only check to the CIC's authority would be Congress, no?
Based upon what? He is the Commander in Chief.
I believe he is saying that if the President is improperly using troops or illegally calling up the national guard, then the "check" on that is not a Federal Judge injunction, but Congress' power of impeachment.

Not that Congress should do that here, but that would be the proper remedy if appropriate.

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The more times I see the term "federal judge" the more times I want to see a "federal judge" given a free plane trip to Antarctica without a parka.
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Newsom's run for the Whitehouse is over before it even started. American people won't vote for this loony leftist.
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ProgN said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/trump-marines-newsom-lawsuit-california.html

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California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday asked a federal judge to quickly block the Trump administration's deployment of National Guard members and Marines to Los Angeles to quell protests against immigration raids.

State Attorney General Rob Bonta asked the judge to grant a temporary restraining order blocking President Donald Trump's actions by 1 p.m. PT in order to "prevent immediate and irreparable harm to Plaintiffs."

Without that fast relief, Trump's deployment of the military and the National Guard poses "imminent harm to State Sovereignty, deprives the State of vital resources, escalates tensions and promotes (rather than quells) civil unrest," Bonta told Judge Charles Breyer in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.


I hope the city burns completely if a judge is this ******ed.


Ultimately, I believe that a state should be able to tell the feds to stay out. Especially militarily.

That seems pretty basic.

That is Civil War level starting **** right there.

Can you imagine if a president passed an executive order against guns (as a health crisis) and so the ****ing military into Texas to put down protest and confiscate weapons.

I don't want this door opened
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That is Civil War level starting **** right there.
I will take "Civil War does not start" for $5,000.

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