I don't know if he is or isn't or to what degree. If I had to bet money, he's named. That's as much as I'd bet. Simply because of the Maxwell trial. Again, that doesn't mean much.


I do think the argument of "if he was in there we'd have already heard!" is a bit of a weird one? By that logic, no high profile Democrat is in the Epstein files either.


I'm not making that claim, I'm deducing from that claim.

Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

Lmao if (and it's a big if) the sitting president is on the epstein list and we don't care then why do we give a **** about anyone on the list?

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Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

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So Patel is corrupt now?

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I don't know what's going on.

If this is some secret gotcha plan, it would be crazier than most Q stuff. In fact, crazier than the majority of American history.

What's the most logical thing going on? Let's break it down.

- Trump campaigned very conservatively on cutting spending and fully backing DOGE to rid out the grift and corruption
- DOGE immediately exposed the deep state's primary tool in USAID, along with many other ridiculous instances of fraud, obvious abuse of taxpayer money, and straight up theft.
- Trump then immediately went into the craziest tariff scheme since the 1930's.
- All of this didn't just happen. It was planned for a long time.
- At the same time, Scott Bessent was very clear that his job was to bring bond yields down.
- Everything over the first two months can only be described a designed hit job on the economy. Their thought was that they could introduce complete turmoil into the global economy while flipping the light on all the roaches at the same time. That this would cause of a selloff in the markets and money would flock to bonds, just like always happens in every major market selloff.
- The selloff happened. It happened big. Nobody bought bonds. In fact, they started dumping them with force. The bond market called their bluff.
- With stock market tanking AND bonds taking while rocketing rates upward, all of the sudden the whole thing turned into "Trump caused global catastrophe". The interest on the debt was about to skyrocket, when their entire goal was to bring yields down to refinance ALL OF IT at lower rates. The opposite was happening.
- With literally no other options, next thing you get is a bunch of soft talk and peace deals.. a middle east tour.. and Trump and Bessent doing a complete 180 from everything Trump campaigned for to "we're going to re-inflate hard, but grow the economy even harder!"
- The only thing that explains that flip, if it wasnt a ruse to fool the public and international negotiators, is the fact that they had no choice.
- Now Elon is sitting there, having tarnished his reputation and worked his tail off, for free, trying to help lower the deficit and cut the waste from government, only for Trump to toss him aside and start a campaign of spending like crazy and re-inflating.
- Elon doesn't care about the Eurodollar financial system. He joined to cut spending. He dedicated every waking hour to it. Now not only was congress giving him the finger, but Trump and Bessent too.
- This likely points to more serious dysfunction in the admin.
- If rates arent back to 4% or lower by end of summer, Trump is going to take his campaign against Powell to another gear.
- If rates aren't ther eby next year, he will turn on Bessent next. The dude had one job.

If I'm being logical, this is the only thing that makes sense right now. And it's all about bond yields. The entire presidency is about bond yields. I say all of this as a Trump supporter who tries to avoid news and narratives. But nothing else makes sense.

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Yeah, pretty much, and as stated elsewhere Epstein's own attorney says it is false.

I was hired to lead Jeffrey Epstein’s defense as his criminal lawyer 9 days before he died. He sought my advice for months before that. I can say authoritatively, unequivocally, and definitively that he had no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him!

— David Schoen (@SchoenDavid) June 6, 2025

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Once again, that doesn't mean he isn't in the files and he didn't have a significant relationship with Epstein. I think it is foolish to say that unless there is direct evidence of Trump being a pedophile (which is very, very unlikely) that there isn't anything that is damaging. LOTS of people are in the files and with different levels of relationships with Epstein. It's just a bad look for Trump to be known to have his name mentioned in the files and also not releasing them while claiming that there isn't anything bad about him personally in them.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

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So Patel is corrupt now?

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Did you see the patel/bongino hostage video

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flown-the-coop said:

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Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

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So Patel is corrupt now?

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Notice use of the past tense "benefited".

Swing and a miss brah, keep trying though.

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Yeah Trump has a weird relationship with Epstein, they are in a bunch of pictures together. Trump maybe in deep
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You do realize that epstein was banned from mar a lago?

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Trump has admitted to flying on Epstein's plane and I think probably the other way around. The story I remember was Trump took the plane with his family and members of Epstein's family to travel to or from Florida for easter or a holiday like that. I am sure if you have friends that live around you in NYC and have a house near you in Florida you take a trip with them like this regardless of if you both have your own plane.

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They illegally spied on his campaign, promoted a pee pee dossier funded by the DNC by a known MI6 fraud, lied to FISA courts to justify it, claimed he was a Russian asset and spent years trying to find a single spec of dirt on him (coming up completely empty), tried to imprison him on Trumped up charges by changing the law and retroactively charging him, impeached him twice, once for simply asking about Joe Biden's and his son's corruption, and allowed a inbred r*tard to get into position to to take potshots at him and turn his head to pink mist on a nationally televised campaign rally.

But yeah, they knew he had sex with minors for 15 years and didn't say a word.

If you believe that...you aren't a very intelligent person.

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So much this.

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what's the delusion? Trump was on a hot mic telling a crude joke about how easy it is to get laid if you are rich and famous. People with a sense of humor and friends understand this.

Some people use this as proof of a secret confession that he is a rapist.

But the same people think that while also whining that he couldnt tell the truth to save his life and he embellishes every word that comes out of his mouth.

Pick a narrative and stick to it.

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It's delusional to say you have to "pick a narrative" in deciding whether he was telling the truth on a hot mic.

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So we agree. Here's your sign

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Just admit that Trump likes to grab ***** unsolicited. He literally admitted it on a recording. Can you admit that? Or are you so delusional that you have to play "8D chess" to find a way out of it. I truly don't get why MAGA can't call him a scumbag when he's a scumbag.

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This is so hilarious coming from a lib…..

Um, Trump is all over the Epstein case. He was a close friend of Epstein and said so himself back in a very old New Yorker article- "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," Trump told New York magazine. "He's a lot of fun to be with," Trump said. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Victims testified at Maxwell's trial that they were recruited at Mar-A-Lago. There are dozens of photos of them partying together.

Anyone that doesn't think he's in "the files" are just delusional at this point. Put down the damn koolaide

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It's curious how interested maga folks are to parse out nuance of what "being on Epsteins list" means now that trump is rumored to be on them

Yall didn't seem to give anyone else the benefit of additional scrutiny of what that might mean before. It seemed like before it was pretty clear.

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This is such an ignorant statement….. parse out Clinton's known trips to the island….. ok…..

I cannot believe the stupidity at all levels. I am not a fan of Trump the man. He has an ego that never ends. He was not the nicest guy. He was a womanizer. All is known. But there is no way on earth with as much hate and vitriol as the TDS group has for him that if he has any bad connections to Epstein that they wouldn't have surfaced by now. To think otherwise is just beyond ignorant.

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Ed Harley said:

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Ed Harley said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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what's the delusion? Trump was on a hot mic telling a crude joke about how easy it is to get laid if you are rich and famous. People with a sense of humor and friends understand this.

Some people use this as proof of a secret confession that he is a rapist.

But the same people think that while also whining that he couldnt tell the truth to save his life and he embellishes every word that comes out of his mouth.

Pick a narrative and stick to it.

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It's delusional to say you have to "pick a narrative" in deciding whether he was telling the truth on a hot mic.

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So we agree. Here's your sign

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Just admit that Trump likes to grab ***** unsolicited. He literally admitted it on a recording. Can you admit that? Or are you so delusional that you have to play "8D chess" to find a way out of it. I truly don't get why MAGA can't call him a scumbag when he's a scumbag.

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This is so hilarious coming from a lib…..

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In lib world, they want to walk up and grab little boys by their coochies. But yet Trump is the bad one.

Ed Harley said:

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Ed Harley said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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what's the delusion? Trump was on a hot mic telling a crude joke about how easy it is to get laid if you are rich and famous. People with a sense of humor and friends understand this.

Some people use this as proof of a secret confession that he is a rapist.

But the same people think that while also whining that he couldnt tell the truth to save his life and he embellishes every word that comes out of his mouth.

Pick a narrative and stick to it.

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It's delusional to say you have to "pick a narrative" in deciding whether he was telling the truth on a hot mic.

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So we agree. Here's your sign

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Just admit that Trump likes to grab ***** unsolicited. He literally admitted it on a recording. Can you admit that? Or are you so delusional that you have to play "8D chess" to find a way out of it. I truly don't get why MAGA can't call him a scumbag when he's a scumbag.

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We don't care

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They illegally spied on his campaign, promoted a pee pee dossier funded by the DNC by a known MI6 fraud, lied to FISA courts to justify it, claimed he was a Russian asset and spent years trying to find a single spec of dirt on him (coming up completely empty), tried to imprison him on Trumped up charges by changing the law and retroactively charging him, impeached him twice, once for simply asking about Joe Biden's and his son's corruption, and allowed a inbred r*tard to get into position to to take potshots at him and turn his head to pink mist on a nationally televised campaign rally.

But yeah, they knew he had sex with minors for 15 years and didn't say a word.

If you believe that...you aren't a very intelligent person.

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So much this.

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UNLESS...a lot of these vengeful powerful democrats are on the list as well, and know that if he gets announced, they ALL do.

I'll say it again...ZERO people on that list want any other person on it to be outed. Even if they hate their guts with a burning passion.

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Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

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How can you say this with a straight face when MAGA controls all of government right now? If there was a single prominent Democrat on that list, it'd be on a gold-plated billboard next to Mar-a-Lago. Unless...

Incredible goaltending.

Not enough for MAGA to want him to be held accountable

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flown-the-coop said:

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Incorrect. It's clear that corruption in the FBI and other agencies primarily benefited one party. That's a fact.

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How can you say this with a straight face when MAGA controls all of government right now? If there was a single prominent Democrat on that list, it'd be on a gold-plated billboard next to Mar-a-Lago. Unless...

Incredible goaltending.

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Thank you. I will absolutely defend Trump against ridiculous allegations and insinuations that Trump is a pedophile.

I will gladly eat my words then the diaries of Ivanka and Tiffany are found and they describe how, as a teenager, their dad like to shower with them and the stories of Trump cuddling on the sofa under blankets with grandkids.

Until then, it's all goaltending.

What are the odds!! Patel on Rogan during the battle yesterday.

Wow. Elon Musk's tweet about Trump being in the Epstein Files was posted while Joe Rogan was interviewing Kash Patel. Patel was clearly caught off guard.

Rogan: Jesus Christ.

Patel: I'm not participating in any of that conversation.

Rogan: Jesus Christ, that’s a crazy thing to… pic.twitter.com/K3RX3wivMw

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) June 6, 2025

Also, no denial. Because being "in the Epstein files" is broad and vague.

I agree. The "Epstein files" is so vague I don't even know what point people are making.

I have not come across any information that definitively indicates Trump is a predator. Was he friends with a predator that trafficked children though? Yes. Did children get recruited on one of his properties? Yes. Was he aware of what Epstein was doing? I give Trump the benefit of doubt that he isn't that stupid.

The weird s*** he's said in the past doesn't help his case either. At the very least….he's a pervert that has openly sexualized teenage girls.

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Um, Trump is all over the Epstein case. He was a close friend of Epstein and said so himself back in a very old New Yorker article- "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," Trump told New York magazine. "He's a lot of fun to be with," Trump said. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Victims testified at Maxwell's trial that they were recruited at Mar-A-Lago. There are dozens of photos of them partying together.

Anyone that doesn't think he's in "the files" are just delusional at this point. Put down the damn koolaide

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JESUS CHRIST, FOR THE LAST FREAKING TIME:

YES, Trump's name is IN THE "EPSTEIN FILES" (along with the names of Trump's wife & children); for example, Trump has admitted to flying on Epstein's plane (as a poster mentioned) around Easter from NY to FL. THE FLIGHT LOGS OF EPSTEIN'S JET ARE PART OF THE "EPSTEIN FILES", SO "YES" LIBERALS, TRUMP'S NAME IS INDEED IN THE "EPSTEIN FILES"!!

But wait...

Having one's name in the "Epstein Files" doesn't mean TRUMP ****ED UNDERAGE GIRLS!!! The pilot of Epstein's jet is 'in the files', along with the names of Trump's family; are y'all arguing they also engaged in statutory rape?!?!

You have Epstein's attorney unequivocally declaring Epstein didn't have dirt on Trump, which I take to mean there isn't victim testimony &/or video evidence of Trump having sex with minors, because if there was, IT ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE BEEN UTILIZED AS PART OF THE DEMS' LAWFARE DURING THE LAST FOUR YEARS!!!

And yet, there are posters in this thread acting like Trump's name being included in the "Epstein files", &/or his boastful claim of grabbing beauty pageant contestants' vaginas, automatically & unequivocally means he MUST be a Pedo; are y'all even remotely aware of how dumb this makes y'all appear? The law even declares that 'prior bad acts' are inadmissible to prove one's guilt of a crime (unless those prior acts show a pattern/ nexus to the crime they're on trial for).

Accordingly, YES Trump is a narcissist, ego manic that is often times abrasive in how he communicates with others; he's filed bankruptcy several times, & he claimed he could grab beauty pageant contestants by their crotch without them objecting to such (did any of these contestants come forward & affirm he did this &/or file a criminal or civil complaint against him, OR was he lying about it all in an effort to be boastful while in a private conversation?); NONE OF THESE "PRIOR BAD ACTS" PROVE HE HAD SEX WITH UNDERAGE GIRLS, EITHER AT EPSTEIN'S ISLAND OR ANYWHERE ELSE!!!

Trump's name in the "Epstein files" is NOT the "GOTCHA" y'all are trying to make it out to be; it only highlights your extreme TDS & absolute absence of critical thinking & understanding. It's no different than when y'all claim/ claimed "TRUMP IS A CONVICTED RAPIST!" No dumbasses, a Civil court, not a Criminal court, ruled Trump LIABLE for sexual battery, which is a tort for physical harm; Trump was ordered to pay her $5 million, which was NOT a sentence for a criminal conviction. In that joke of case by those nutjobs E. Jean Carroll & a pathetic TDS judge who committed numerous legal errors in his rulings & notwithstanding his conflict of interests, the judge mentioned "rape" in his rulings, but he absolutely shouldn't have since that wasn't the nature of Carroll's complaint & at no point was Trump EVER accused &/or convicted of rape, including statutory rape.

Lastly, every single Conservative, Republican, MAGA, &/or Independent has unequivocally said EVERYONE that had sex with a minor, including Trump if proven guilty, should be prosecuted; meanwhile, your 'team' in California sees nothing wrong with homosexual adults having sexual intercourse, which by definition is RAPE b/c of vaginal or anal penetration, with underage minors, which makes it STATUTORY RAPE- the same exact crime that took place on Epstein Island, so why the double standard & hypocrisy?!?!

My God, either y'all are genuinely intellectually dishonest to a fault, consumed by TDS so badly that logic & reason isn't even an after thought for y'all, OR Y'ALL ARE JUST TOO STUPID & THUS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!

Nailed it. Very well said.

was it? Cause I'm worried he's giving himself an ulcer over this.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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was it? Cause I'm worried he's giving himself an ulcer over this.

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It was definitely a rant. It's friday afternoon. There might have been some alcohol involved with that post.

Gig em G said:

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I agree. The "Epstein files" is so vague I don't even know what point people are making.

I have not come across any information that definitively indicates Trump is a predator. Was he friends with a predator that trafficked children though? Yes. Did children get recruited on one of his properties? Yes. Was he aware of what Epstein was doing? I give Trump the benefit of doubt that he isn't that stupid.

The weird s*** he's said in the past doesn't help his case either. At the very least….he's a pervert that has openly sexualized teenage girls.

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The 09/30/16 JANE DOE v.DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN case.

Quote:

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Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3130729-DOE-V-TRUMP/

Lurid accusations 45 days before an election sure seems like a legit accusation to me.


What was Avanati's involvement with this claim? Seems like something he would have run with. I remember when the Dems wanted him to run for POTUS.

Yes or No answer please.

Do you think a lawsuit by an anonymous purpose, withdrawn two days after its filed, "definitively indicates someone is a predator"?

This is actually a very good and reasonable theory on the epstein files.

I don’t mean like a total crank or whatever but maybe the wealthy pedophile was simply using his resources to have sex with the young women himself? Maybe there wasn’t a second phase of the crime!

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 5, 2025

Even if the secret Epstein files existed which they obviously don’t why would Elon Musk have been allowed to see them? They wouldn’t even let him get a classified briefing on China.

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 6, 2025

I think the overwhelming majority of men don’t actually want to sleep with 13 year olds and for these conspiracy theories to be true like 90% of powerful men in this country have to be unwilling to settle for an 18 year old

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 6, 2025

**yes I am aware that Dreyfuss is a moderate liberal. However, he is very funny and sometimes interesting and generally not unreasonable.

I see you are too big of a coward to answer the question. Not surprising from liberal.

Congrats on getting Maryland Margarita Man back. Exciting day for your ilk!

Jeffrey Epstein on Trump: "I was Donald's closest friend for 10 years..." pic.twitter.com/uxtbUXlp3i

— Marlow Stern (@MarlowNYC) June 5, 2025

swimmerbabe11 said:

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This is actually a very good and reasonable theory on the epstein files.

I don’t mean like a total crank or whatever but maybe the wealthy pedophile was simply using his resources to have sex with the young women himself? Maybe there wasn’t a second phase of the crime!

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 5, 2025

Even if the secret Epstein files existed which they obviously don’t why would Elon Musk have been allowed to see them? They wouldn’t even let him get a classified briefing on China.

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 6, 2025

I think the overwhelming majority of men don’t actually want to sleep with 13 year olds and for these conspiracy theories to be true like 90% of powerful men in this country have to be unwilling to settle for an 18 year old

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) June 6, 2025

**yes I am aware that Dreyfuss is a moderate liberal. However, he is very funny and sometimes interesting and generally not unreasonable.

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very well could be, but it would be hard to reconcile that with the fact that the investigation found hundreds of burned CDs in a security office in his Manhatten apartment that had vidwo recording devices in every bedroom.

I guess he could have been recording himself, but it doesnt seem likely.

Trump was not involved in Epstein's wrongdoings. Even Epstein's lead counsel has confirmed he asked that a few weeks before Epstein died and he answered he did not.

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was it? Cause I'm worried he's giving himself an ulcer over this.

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It was definitely a rant. It's friday afternoon. There might have been some alcohol involved with that post.

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You voted and bragged about for what is confirmed as a puppet president. Yet keep posting like you're a serious person.

There are no Epstein files