Will the mandatory breathalyzers in new vehicles be repealed?

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The 2021 Infrastructure Disaster Bill included a requirement for all new vehicles to includes "anti-drunk driving technology" by 2026.

While the technology is pretty cool and I would want to voluntarily put it in my kid's car, this is typical Nanny State garbage by the democrats.

What are the chances the Trump administration will choose to simply not enforce it, or it gets repealed while we have a Republican majority? The attempt to repeal it a few years ago didn't go over well: https://usa.streetsblog.org/2022/08/01/these-gop-senators-want-to-protect-motorists-right-to-drive-drunk
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Gaeilge
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It's a blatant 4th amendment violation. It won't go into effect.
GeorgiAg
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Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.
bonfarr
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How much would this add to the price of a new car? A base model compact already costs $20k.

Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
fullback44
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U B E R.

It's a lot safer
richardag
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Gaeilge said:

It's a blatant 4th amendment violation.
  • Agreed
It won't go into effect.
  • I am not so sure

Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
DrEvazanPhD
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GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


Or don't, and don't put in intrusive tech. The guy you voted for wanted this
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I don't believe traditional breathalyzers will be required and apparently auto companies are looking for "passive detection" methods.

Either way, it's a **** idea.
bonfarr
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GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


I was in downtown Austin over the weekend and saw the Waymo cars driving around 5th and 6th St all day but never saw a person in one. Are they just driving them around for testing purposes?
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Im Gipper
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Given a margin by which it passed, repeal does not seem likely.

But the Trump administration could ignore it.

I'm Gipper
Old Army Ghost
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DrEvazanPhD said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


Or don't, and don't put in intrusive tech. The guy you voted for wanted this
georgia has a good idea but f16 can only respond with but but but biden
Old Army has gone to hell.
80085
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so is my 2026 Jeep Wrangler going to stop me from having too good a time at the ranch?
IIIHorn
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Exhale damage.
Im Gipper
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80085 said:

so is my 2026 Jeep Wrangler going to stop me from having too good a time at the ranch?


Is that what you call your wife ?

I'm Gipper
bonfarr
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bonfarr said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


I was in downtown Austin over the weekend and saw the Waymo cars driving around 5th and 6th St all day but never saw a person in one. Are they just driving them around for testing purposes?


I got stuck behind one of those pieces of crap the other day while it was having a malfunction. Just parked itself in the middle of the street and we all got to figure out traffic together.
Tom Fox
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So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.
IIIHorn
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Tom Fox said:

So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.


What if the driver abuses placebos?
80085
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Tom Fox said:

So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.


Ive seen driver attention alarms in newer cars. Id guess some variant of that, tracking eye movement and such
Tom Fox
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They would have zero effect on their ability to drive.
Tom Fox
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80085 said:

Tom Fox said:

So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.


Ive seen driver attention alarms in newer cars. Id guess some variant of that, tracking eye movement and such


So use horizontal gaze nystagmus HGN? The problem there is that a subset of the population has naturally occurring nystagmus not related to intoxication.

The best option is for the government to mind their own ****ing business.
CanyonAg77
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I'd say phone detectors would save more lives.

And as a certified old fart who likes to watch scenery and crops as I drive, can't wait to see how that gets interpreted
maroonthrunthru
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I'm on my 3rd Margarita…

Not worriiiieeeddd. Bout no DDDUIII. tecknlogie…
Ocifer !!!
jja79
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bonfarr said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


I was in downtown Austin over the weekend and saw the Waymo cars driving around 5th and 6th St all day but never saw a person in one. Are they just driving them around for testing purposes?


I was in Old Town Scottsdale today around noon and saw several. That's pretty typical but a few months ago I saw one take off passing cars on Scottsdale Road and weaving in and out to the point everyone had to slow way down. I'll let you guys work the kinks out but they're common here.
txags92
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Old Army Ghost said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


Or don't, and don't put in intrusive tech. The guy you voted for wanted this
georgia has a good idea but f16 can only respond with but but but biden
Posting on F16 while bagging on F16 should be a bannable offense.
BigRobSA
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fullback44 said:

U B E R.

It's a lot safer
Don't drink.

Even safer-est.
ABATTBQ11
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jja79 said:

bonfarr said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


I was in downtown Austin over the weekend and saw the Waymo cars driving around 5th and 6th St all day but never saw a person in one. Are they just driving them around for testing purposes?


I was in Old Town Scottsdale today around noon and saw several. That's pretty typical but a few months ago I saw one take off passing cars on Scottsdale Road and weaving in and out to the point everyone had to slow way down. I'll let you guys work the kinks out but they're common here.


Saw a video of a guy in one that was stuck doing circles in a parking lot.
BigRobSA
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ABATTBQ11 said:

jja79 said:

bonfarr said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


I was in downtown Austin over the weekend and saw the Waymo cars driving around 5th and 6th St all day but never saw a person in one. Are they just driving them around for testing purposes?


I was in Old Town Scottsdale today around noon and saw several. That's pretty typical but a few months ago I saw one take off passing cars on Scottsdale Road and weaving in and out to the point everyone had to slow way down. I'll let you guys work the kinks out but they're common here.


Saw a video of a guy in one that was stuck doing circles in a parking lot.
Gay-mo car was getting hyphy?!
CDUB98
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This stupid, mandatory **** was another reason I decided to get a new truck this year.
AggieArcher17
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80085 said:

so is my 2026 Jeep Wrangler going to stop me from having too good a time at the ranch?


My first thought as well. Don't drink and drive in any other situation but cruising around the pasture with a beer or cocktail in hand shouldn't be an issue
fullback44
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BigRobSA said:

fullback44 said:

U B E R.

It's a lot safer
Don't drink.

Even safer-est.


Yep this is the answer - but hard to do when having fun !
JamesPShelley
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Tom Fox said:

So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.
A drug is a drug is a drug. C'mon, man.

And... General Tsaos might cause the IID to shut you down.
GeorgiAg
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80085 said:

Tom Fox said:

So according to the article it uses passive sensors as opposed to the familiar ignition interlock.

Ok.

My question is what does the vehicle do if it passively evaluates that the driver has consumed alcohol?

How does it prevent DWI drugs? I would say that at least 20% of my firms new DWI clients now involve drugs instead of alcohol.


Ive seen driver attention alarms in newer cars. Id guess some variant of that, tracking eye movement and such
Sales guy I know that drives all over has a Tesla. He puts a bandaid over the camera so he can respond to email while the car drives.
GeorgiAg
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Old Army Ghost said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

GeorgiAg said:

Elon needs to hurry up with the self driving. Drink too much? Just have the car drive you home.


Or don't, and don't put in intrusive tech. The guy you voted for wanted this
georgia has a good idea but f16 can only respond with but but but biden
I will worry about F16 if they don't mention it.
MouthBQ98
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What about DWI = Driving While an Idiot? That seems to be the most common issue.
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