Pakis think they are Arabs and "yearn" to go back to the "days of the Holy Prophet". With India cutting off the water supply, Pakistan will turn into a desert, so their wishes will be granted.

Very thoughtful Ramadan gift from Modi.

Agreed. Also I remember seeing a few years ago a russian fighter, I think it was a Su 27 was shot down over ukraine. The radar and part of EW equipment were partially intact and Ukraine shared that with us. That is super important because basically almost all " Chinese " equipment is soviet/russian equipment they reverse engineered. Su 27> J-11 and the S-300> HQ-9BE and on and on. These pieces of equipment will help us deal with the chicoms when they make their move on Taiwan.

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Pakis think they are Arabs and "yearn" to go back to the "days of the Holy Prophet". With India cutting off the water supply, Pakistan will turn into a desert, so their wishes will be granted.

Very thoughtful Ramadan gift from Modi.

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I love the fact that the Indians always give them crap for worshipping a " Foreign " God!

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Not a good sign when the Geneva convention goes out the window on Day 1.

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CONFIRMED: Pakistan used Chinese long-range air-to-air missile PL-15E against India.

Parts of the missile fell in Hoshiarpur, Punjab, India. Photo (1st and 2nd) provided by Indian media.

The PL-15 has a range of 200-300 km for the domestic version and about 145 km for the… pic.twitter.com/51YXEuFrAv

— Clash Report (@clashreport) May 7, 2025

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So AIM-54 Phoenix developed by the US in the early 70's but with more range?

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Its good, fight a war to win it, not to appease the west.

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Well sending terrorists into neighboring countries (India and Afghanistan) means that all these conventions are worth less than toilet paper.

BTHO Pakistan!

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If you cant provide your country with the most basic human necessity, maybe sit down, shut your cock holster, and don't start a war.

Pakistan army be like, " We never won a war but we have never lost an election"

India doesn't have the ability to actually cut off the water in those rivers from going to Pakistan right? More of a future threat if they eventually build a lot of storage capacity?

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India doesn't have the ability to actually cut off the water in those rivers from going to Pakistan right? More of a future threat if they eventually build a lot of storage capacity?

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Yes. But they are diverting some water already.
And more than that they are stopping and releasing it as they please without informing Pak like they used to. So lower areas are flooding and destroying crops.

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India doesn't have the ability to actually cut off the water in those rivers from going to Pakistan right? More of a future threat if they eventually build a lot of storage capacity?

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Yes. But they are diverting some water already.
And more than that they are stopping and releasing it as they please without informing Pak like they used to. So lower areas are flooding and destroying crops.

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There are some parts of India that are only allowed to fill water tanks once a week because of corruption, I am suprised India gives them any water at all.

Grabbed an Indopak update from telegram for anyone else who’s behind too. pic.twitter.com/9Y8nCVPvIl

— 🗿 Woe to those who dwell upon the earth 🗿 (@treblewoe) May 7, 2025

https://t.me/medmannews

This telegram channel looks to be a good one for getting news in the conflict. Appears to be an unbiased OSINT channel. Telegram OSINT sources are top notch in comparison to X.

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India doesn't have the ability to actually cut off the water in those rivers from going to Pakistan right? More of a future threat if they eventually build a lot of storage capacity?

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Yes. But they are diverting some water already.
And more than that they are stopping and releasing it as they please without informing Pak like they used to. So lower areas are flooding and destroying crops.

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There are some parts of India that only allowed to fill water tanks once a week because of corrution, I am suprised India gives them any water at all.

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I know. But the agreement is an old one, about 80 years.
I read up on this as I love history. India's first Prime Minister Nehru in 1947 was very woke. And he loved to virtue-signal. And he had "Hindu Guilt" and "Hindu man's burden", which are equivalent to the issues white men have today. So he thought it was his job to keep the Pakis comfy.

So when Pakistan split off from India, they came to the table to discuss how to split up the waters of all the rivers. India was the upper country and Pak lower. Some 5-6 rivers. India ended up giving Pak 70% of the water and keeping only 30% even though India was more than double the size of Pak. Back then I guess it was a thing to let go and give in.

80 years later, it seems like foolishness. Modi took the chance to suspend it so now that does not apply. If Pak wants a plan, they have to renegotiate and Modi will surely squeeze their Arabic balls.

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Have you seen the rivers in India? I would say that sending the water to Pakistan is an act of warfare

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If you took Geography or knew to read a map, you would know that the rivers in question arise from the Himalayas which are in the India-China region. They flow from there into Pakistan. Not the other way. Some rivers stay in Pak and some flow into India and don't enter Pak.

The polluted ones are not these and are not disputed.

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That's the question on many minds, after India suspended a major treaty governing water sharing of six rivers in the Indus basin between the two countries, following Tuesday's horrific attack in Indian-administered Kashmir.

The 1960 Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) survived two wars between the nuclear rivals and was seen as an example of trans-boundary water management.

The suspension is among several steps India has taken against Pakistan, accusing it of backing cross-border terrorism - a charge Islamabad flatly denies. It has also hit back with reciprocal measures against Delhi, and said stopping water flow "will be considered as an Act of War".

The treaty allocated the three eastern rivers the Ravi, Beas and Sutlej of the Indus basin to India, while 80% of the three western ones the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab to Pakistan.

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Can India really stop river water from flowing into Pakistan?

Interesting article from the BBC. Article implies that China could also get into the mix as the Indus originate in territory that they control:

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There's a bigger picture: India is downstream of China in the Brahmaputra basin, and the Indus originates in Tibet.

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We live in interesting times...

Slightly unrelated, but you know what I find a little refreshing about this thread? That we have at least one (maybe two) Indian-American "persons of color" (as if whites don't have color) that is willing to clown a little bit on his ancestor's country of origin. Something you typically only see white Americans do. I am used to seeing non-whites praise and overly-romanticize or defend their country of origin and overly criticize ours...which naturally makes one question their true loyalties and motives.

I clown on Germany and Ireland routinely...and consider myself ONLY American (well, Texan first TBH)....but refreshing to see some non-crackers do this as well.

Random, maybe silly, but just an observation.

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Grabbed an Indopak update from telegram for anyone else who’s behind too. pic.twitter.com/9Y8nCVPvIl

— 🗿 Woe to those who dwell upon the earth 🗿 (@treblewoe) May 7, 2025

https://t.me/medmannews

This telegram channel looks to be a good one for getting news in the conflict. Appears to be an unbiased OSINT channel. Telegram OSINT sources are top notch in comparison to X.

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French confirming a Rafale has been shot down

And on day 1, too. Brutal. pic.twitter.com/4e7FIj5RCo

— Sólionath (@Anarseldain) May 7, 2025

Oof. I have a feeling this is going to get quite intense.

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And on day 1, too. Brutal. pic.twitter.com/4e7FIj5RCo

— Sólionath (@Anarseldain) May 7, 2025

Oof. I have a feeling this is going to get quite intense.

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Remeber both sides learned how to be brutal from British rule

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And on day 1, too. Brutal. pic.twitter.com/4e7FIj5RCo

— Sólionath (@Anarseldain) May 7, 2025

Oof. I have a feeling this is going to get quite intense.

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Sarcasm? My detector is a little miscalibrated right now

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And on day 1, too. Brutal. pic.twitter.com/4e7FIj5RCo

— Sólionath (@Anarseldain) May 7, 2025

Oof. I have a feeling this is going to get quite intense.

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No. The British rule was very harsh

They were dismembering each other long before the Brits ever left their island.

Is beheading your enemy and posting the pics online customary behavior for special forces? Maybe I'm naive, but my impression of special forces has always been that they're a bit more... professional. Not necessarily the beheading part, but rather the public spiking the football.

CNN: Is there evidence that Pakistan downed 5 Indian fighter jets?
Pak Defense Minister: It is all over Social Media. Search for it

What a clown of a country. These terrorists must be finished off.

Khwaja Asif is such a clown. He is looking for legal evidence against India from Social Media. Hilarious. Those social media posts are being posted by Abdul and Munir from ISI GHQ Information Warfare desk.

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— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) May 7, 2025

If the wreckage is in Indian territory there's not much he can do to offer proof other than what he said. I assumed Pakistan was full of it with their initial claims but now it's looking like they did down some Indian jets.

There are cultures that take more joy in getting away with cheating and lying than they do in honestly winning.

Good luck dealing with that.

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Grabbed an Indopak update from telegram for anyone else who’s behind too. pic.twitter.com/9Y8nCVPvIl

— 🗿 Woe to those who dwell upon the earth 🗿 (@treblewoe) May 7, 2025

https://t.me/medmannews

This telegram channel looks to be a good one for getting news in the conflict. Appears to be an unbiased OSINT channel. Telegram OSINT sources are top notch in comparison to X.

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Who is this unnamed "high ranking french official"? And how does he know sitting in Paris?

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If the wreckage is in Indian territory there's not much he can do to offer proof other than what he said. I assumed Pakistan was full of it with their initial claims but now it's looking like they did down some Indian jets.

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That no one knows. Your guess is as good as mine. Only the 2 governments know.

If you want to believe someone as spaced out as Biden saying "go search on social media" when asked for proof, that is up to you.

There is some evidence out there that India lost aircraft. I'm not believing the guy, I didn't even watch the clip.

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There is some evidence out there that India lost aircraft. I'm not believing the guy, I didn't even watch the clip.

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India doesn't have the ability to actually cut off the water in those rivers from going to Pakistan right? More of a future threat if they eventually build a lot of storage capacity?

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Yes. But they are diverting some water already.
And more than that they are stopping and releasing it as they please without informing Pak like they used to. So lower areas are flooding and destroying crops.

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There are some parts of India that only allowed to fill water tanks once a week because of corrution, I am suprised India gives them any water at all.

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I know. But the agreement is an old one, about 80 years.
I read up on this as I love history. India's first Prime Minister Nehru in 1947 was very woke. And he loved to virtue-signal. And he had "Hindu Guilt" and "Hindu man's burden", which are equivalent to the issues white men have today. So he thought it was his job to keep the Pakis comfy.

So when Pakistan split off from India, they came to the table to discuss how to split up the waters of all the rivers. India was the upper country and Pak lower. Some 5-6 rivers. India ended up giving Pak 70% of the water and keeping only 30% even though India was more than double the size of Pak. Back then I guess it was a thing to let go and give in.

80 years later, it seems like foolishness. Modi took the chance to suspend it so now that does not apply. If Pak wants a plan, they have to renegotiate and Modi will surely squeeze their Arabic balls.

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Agreements being broken is the norm throughout history, if I was India I would tell them to stick it.

Maybe this will be a war started because of a ton of AI bots fooling the masses.