merwil gutierrez latest gang member sanctified by the left

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HoustonAg9999
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Rockdoc said:

He was here illegally. Why do you want people to provide links and do your research?
swimmerbabe11
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Per news reports, he had his immigration papers and a court date pending. I have seen no evidence provided of gang ties or criminal activity and that's suppose to be the criteria for sending people to CECOT.

I'll wait for further evidence.
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Owlagdad said:

Are any of these guys being pulled off of job sites?
Or they usually just found hanging out?
They can pull the Venezuelan off the jobsite in left field for the 'stros and deport him if he doesn't learn how to chase down and catch fly balls.

As another poster pointed out, I am not seeing hardworking construction guys in any of these pictures.

Tatted up thugs living in free hotels with free mopeds free cellphones free door dash free healthcare and nothing but time.
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Asylum is a legal process. It is being abused. Don't necessarily like he was deported on such flimsy basis. If we don't like the asylum laws then they need to change.
swimmerbabe11
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This person has no tattoos. Nothing about him looks violent except that he hasn't shaved in a couple of days.
Rockdoc
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Is the United States adjacent to Venezuela?
HoustonAg9999
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So he just happened to be in the hallway when ICE came in, just chillin story not making sense. Ill wait for more evidence.
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The asylum laws were *******ized and twisted to allow these people to be released into the country knowing full well that the vast majority would never follow through. This would create a "crisis" that would be solved with amnesty. This is the same playbook dems have played over and over again. Have no problem looking at his asylum process as being void because the laws were not followed.
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HoustonAg9999 said:

So he just happened to be in the hallway when ICE came in, just chillin story not making sense. Ill wait for more evidence.

Hey, I'm on the same page with you on that one. So far the evidence provided, doesn't look good on ICE. He followed the procedures in place. If he wasn't doing anything wrong, this is a miscarriage of justice. If he was engaged in criminal activity, I'm happy he was deported. If his status was just being revoked and court date cancelled, I am 100% against him being sent to CECOT.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

HoustonAg9999 said:

So he just happened to be in the hallway when ICE came in, just chillin story not making sense. Ill wait for more evidence.

Hey, I'm on the same page with you on that one. So far the evidence provided, doesn't look good on ICE. He followed the procedures in place. If he wasn't doing anything wrong, this is a miscarriage of justice. If he was engaged in criminal activity, I'm happy he was deported. If his status was just being revoked and court date cancelled, I am 100% against him being sent to CECOT.
So maybe dont come to the country illegally if you are worried about where you get sent, I still have not seen any evidence you must be sent back to your home country?
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AgBQ-00 said:

The asylum laws were *******ized and twisted to allow these people to be released into the country knowing full well that the vast majority would never follow through. This would create a "crisis" that would be solved with amnesty. This is the same playbook dems have played over and over again. Have no problem looking at his asylum process as being void because the laws were not followed.
100% agree with this. Sorry, Dems, we're not playing by your distorted view of immigration law so that 95% of people that show up at the border end up staying. And please forget trying to guilt or shame us in to giving a damn about some 19 yr old Venezuelan and his BS asylum claims. Dems have not acted in good faith in regards to asylum seekers and illegals in general. WE DON'T CARE. Deport, deport, deport!
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'I'll wait for further evidence'......from what source?



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swimmerbabe11 said:

Once again, I'm going to be asking for the actual facts of the case here.
From limited news I see that he was here legally on a pending asylum case, has no criminal history in this country or Venezuela, was not the person that they were looking for.... Why is he being sent to El Salvador and not deported to Venezuela?
If you haven't seen any facts, how have you developed the obviously strongly held opinions?
swimmerbabe11
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Well the administration's only defense has been "how dare you question our ICE agents!", which is the battle cry of the guilty.


But you go ahead and blindly trust the government.
Rockdoc
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The governments job is to keep the citizens safe. GET THEM OUT!
BadMoonRisin
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Not our job to find out where to send these people.

Send them to the southern border of Mexico or send them to Antartica, I don't really care. They have to go back.

If they want a choice of destination, they can use the CBP One app and get a ticket to wherever they want. If they want to roll the dice and risk this happening, well, that's a choice.
Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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There are thousands of US citizens wrongly in jail, let's worry about them first instead of worrying about an illegal immigrant getting thrown into a "torture camp".

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swimmerbabe11 said:

This person has no tattoos. Nothing about him looks violent except that he hasn't shaved in a couple of days.
Surely you can't be so stupid as to think that his pic shown is his everyday appearance?

As many others have already stated, he's supposed to file his asylum claim in the 1st country he reaches. Look at a map then tell me why we have to listen to ANY of these bs asylum claims.

I don't care where they go. There here illegally and they're getting deported to whoever will take them and as fast as possible. I don't care AT ALL where they get sent.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Well the administration's only defense has been "how dare you question our ICE agents!", which is the battle cry of the guilty.


But you go ahead and blindly trust the government.
I stopped trusting the govt while Biden was potus and bumbled his way around for 4 years and the media told us how fit he was to serve.

Now I just want results.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

There are thousands of US citizens wrongly in jail, let's worry about them first instead of worrying about an illegal immigrant getting thrown into a "torture camp".
Exactly...and there are thousands of issues impacting LEGAL Americans in this country that are more important than this one.

If ICE made a mistake it was likely due to the monumental task of removing all the illegals Biden and company ENCOURAGED and FLEW into this country. They also have to deal with uncooperative blue city officials and sanctuary BS states obstructing them from carrying out their duties.

Perhaps if there weren't so many illegals in this country and so much Democrat obstruction less mistakes would be made. I'm not going to lose one second of sleep over this.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Per news reports, he had his immigration papers and a court date pending. I have seen no evidence provided of gang ties or criminal activity and that's suppose to be the criteria for sending people to CECOT.

I'll wait for further evidence.
I think I found your problem.

News reports are no where close to "evidence".

The news told you that:
  • The Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation
  • That paper masks can stop COVID
  • That the vaccine was 90% effective
  • That Jesse Smollett was jumped by racist white guys in Chicago
  • That the BLM protests were "mostly peaceful"
  • That Xinis had jurisdiction over the Garcia case
  • That the Russian Dossier was not fake

And on, and on, and on, and on.

I don't know whether the kid was here legally or not, but there is no way I am going to conclude either way based on "news reports".

Just recently, the news said that SCOTUS unanimously told Trump to bring back the El Salvador MS-13 gang member. But, anyone that understands the law even a smidgen more than Senator McCarthy (a very low bar) would know that what SCOTUS said is that Xinis had to clarify exactly what she meant by "effectuate", and to take into consideration the limitations of the courts to interfere with the POTUS when she did. Xinis still hasn't clarified exactly what the WH should do, only keeps asking for status reports.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
Kozmozag
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Biden and democrats offer them all asylum, 100% knowing they do not qualify. Even after Asylum is turned down and deportation orders given, Biden just ignored and let them stay.
Biz Ag
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If only Democrats were as concerned about American Jews still being held hostage in Gaza . . . (not that they ever were to begin with).

swimmerbabe11
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It's almost like I've qualified every statement I've made by stating the only sources that have been made available and asking people for any source that refutes the information that has been made available.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

HoustonAg9999 said:

So he just happened to be in the hallway when ICE came in, just chillin story not making sense. Ill wait for more evidence.

Hey, I'm on the same page with you on that one. So far the evidence provided, doesn't look good on ICE. He followed the procedures in place. If he wasn't doing anything wrong, this is a miscarriage of justice. If he was engaged in criminal activity, I'm happy he was deported. If his status was just being revoked and court date cancelled, I am 100% against him being sent to CECOT.
It has been the policy of the White House to target criminal illegal aliens, but any illegal aliens that are found while looking for criminal identified by ICE will be arrested, and possibly deported.

This has been the policy since at least January 21st.



Nothing has changed except for the media portrayal of this thanks to activist judges who are acting well outside of the law in pursuing these cases.

Also, you can't say that this kid is in the US legally if they first came to the US from Venezuela, and then opened an asylum case once they were here. Doing those things in that order is illegal, and makes you an illegal alien.

The kid might or might not have a legitimate court case that would make it more egregious that he was deported, but there is no way I am going to take the MSM's word for it that this is true.

Are you really going to assertively argue that, more likely than not, this kid has a legitimate, active case with immigration, and followed all of the required rules, and was deported anyways, based on a news report? Is that a hill you are willing to die on (metaphorically)? I'm sure not.

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swimmerbabe11 said:

It's almost like I've qualified every statement I've made by stating the only sources that have been made available and asking people for any source that refutes the information that has been made available.
Yeah, I just have a problem with using the words "evidence" and "news report" interchangeably.

Investigative journalism that relies on primary documents takes some time. I'm willing to wait to draw any conclusions until I read more. I'm not going to make a judgement now that I am not willing to part from without someone providing more "evidence" than the "evidence" provided in a news report.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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HoustonAg9999 said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

HoustonAg9999 said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

Once again, I'm going to be asking for the actual facts of the case here.
From limited news I see that he was here legally on a pending asylum case, has no criminal history in this country or Venezuela, was not the person that they were looking for.... Why is he being sent to El Salvador and not deported to Venezuela?
he was not here legally why does this keep getting reported?

It is my understanding that he was following the proper procedures for an asylum case. Link to show that he was not?

Even still, just being here illegally isn't cause to be sent to El Salvador instead of turned around back to Venezuela.
So he still has no legal basis for being here can you show he does? Also, where does it say you have to be returned to your home country? Ill hang up and listen


The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) in Section 241.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

It's almost like I've qualified every statement I've made by stating the only sources that have been made available and asking people for any source that refutes the information that has been made available.
The problem is that our media, at large, is basically about as credible as The National Enquirer. Except they lie for far more nefarious reasons, whereas the National Enquirer is just trying to make $$$ by entertaining.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

This is such a great strategy for the Democrats. I hope they keep doubling down all the way till the next election.

I mean do they really think most Americans care that generic illegal Jose Carrera Alegria Rodriguez was given the boot regardless of whether he was a gun toting gang banger or not. We voted for this.
I know many moderates who are deeply upset about this and even regret their vote.
Weak minded fence sitters who don't have strong enough spines to have any convictions. Of course they are easily swayed by propaganda.
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93MarineHorn said:

AgBQ-00 said:

The asylum laws were *******ized and twisted to allow these people to be released into the country knowing full well that the vast majority would never follow through. This would create a "crisis" that would be solved with amnesty. This is the same playbook dems have played over and over again. Have no problem looking at his asylum process as being void because the laws were not followed.
100% agree with this. Sorry, Dems, we're not playing by your distorted view of immigration law so that 95% of people that show up at the border end up staying. And please forget trying to guilt or shame us in to giving a damn about some 19 yr old Venezuelan and his BS asylum claims. Dems have not acted in good faith in regards to asylum seekers and illegals in general. WE DON'T CARE. Deport, deport, deport!


Great points!
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swimmerbabe11 said:

HoustonAg9999 said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

HoustonAg9999 said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

Once again, I'm going to be asking for the actual facts of the case here.
From limited news I see that he was here legally on a pending asylum case, has no criminal history in this country or Venezuela, was not the person that they were looking for.... Why is he being sent to El Salvador and not deported to Venezuela?
he was not here legally why does this keep getting reported?

It is my understanding that he was following the proper procedures for an asylum case. Link to show that he was not?

Even still, just being here illegally isn't cause to be sent to El Salvador instead of turned around back to Venezuela.
So he still has no legal basis for being here can you show he does? Also, where does it say you have to be returned to your home country? Ill hang up and listen


The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) in Section 241.
you might want to read where it states they have to be returned to their home country.
AggielandPoultry
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Bye Bye.. best of luck!
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

This is such a great strategy for the Democrats. I hope they keep doubling down all the way till the next election.

I mean do they really think most Americans care that generic illegal Jose Carrera Alegria Rodriguez was given the boot regardless of whether he was a gun toting gang banger or not. We voted for this.


The average American is not nearly as evil as you say they are. I know many moderates who are deeply upset about this and even regret their vote.

Deportation is one thing. Indefinite imprisonment in a foreign torture camp for crossing a border is magnitudes worse. The "gang member" excuse isn't going to work when there have been dozens of law abiding immigrants falsely accused and shipped off to El Salvador. This behavior will backfire tremendously for republicans.


I don't really care what happens to them once they're off our soil. Not my monkeys, not my circus. Take it up with El Salvador.

And there's no such thing as Moderates. Only Liberals trying to hide their true affiliation in an attempt to discredit Conservatives.



Thank you.
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My God, these self righteous, white-knighting, uppity, virtue-signaling, liberal losers are ALMOST as bad as the murderous illegals they are defending. So effing stupid.

"Then show ME the evidence, if not, I have a BIG problem with this..."

So effing what? Who the eff are you? No one cares what you think. No one has to prove a damn thing to you. Go be an activist on your facebook page for MS-13 murderers all you want since it makes you feel all fuzzy inside. Meanwhile, grown adults are just laughing at how absurdly ridiculous your loyalties have become.
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Good. Bye bye.
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