Cobra39 said:

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doubledog said:

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"Texas would never break up into 5 different states, which new state would get the Alamo?"

Anonymous.



My favorite toy when I I was growing up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_divisionism

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Those are some bow-legged dudes in front.

Cobra39

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Cavalry when horses are in low supply become infantry.

They better quarry a crap ton of it

BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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I still remember having to repeat in front of the class the state song when I was at Kealing MS in Austin.

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

BlueSmoke said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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I still remember having to repeat in front of the class the state song when I was at Kealing MS in Austin.

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

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Or before every home A&M football game

BlueSmoke said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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I still remember having to repeat in front of the class the state song when I was at Kealing MS in Austin.

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

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Geez, in elementary school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning and sang My Country 'Tis of Thee and then Texas, Our Texas. We also had music class where we were taught to sing the national anthem, America the Beautiful, Dixie, Battle Hymn of the Republic and a ton of old folk songs from all over the country.

We sang a lot in elementary school

Same here.

Hank the Grifter said:

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I went to the South Carolina game in November and some genius Gamecock fan had this sign prominently displayed at his tailgate.



I gave him a quick history lesson and said "so thanks for nothin'."

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Do tell…

Gunny456 said:

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Same here.

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Half of the songs we sang would now be considered "offensive" to somebody.

I mean, we sang The Camptown Ladies, Swing Low Sweet Chariot, and many more what used to be termed as "Spirituals."

She'll Be Coming Around the Mountain When She Comes, Sweet Betsy from Pike, anything by Stephen Foster mostly including Massa's in the Cold, Cold Ground and My Old Kentucky Home. It was considered educational to learn folk songs from other places in America back then. Brought us more together rather than divided us and was fun...provided you could hold a tune in a bucket. My poor Dad was musical, played in the FTAB but couldn't sing a note to save his life. He always just mouthed the words to the hymns when we were at Mass.

Funny how I still remember the lyrics to many of those songs.

Ballad of the Alamo

aggiehawg said:

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BlueSmoke said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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I still remember having to repeat in front of the class the state song when I was at Kealing MS in Austin.

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

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Geez, in elementary school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning and sang My Country 'Tis of Thee and then Texas, Our Texas. We also had music class where we were taught to sing the national anthem, America the Beautiful, Dixie, Battle Hymn of the Republic and a ton of old folk songs from all over the country.

We sang a lot in elementary school

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Even sang Chicken Fat in P.E.

Ag87H2O said:

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God bless Texas

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I see you and I'll raise.

milner79 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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BlueSmoke said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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I still remember having to repeat in front of the class the state song when I was at Kealing MS in Austin.

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

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Geez, in elementary school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning and sang My Country 'Tis of Thee and then Texas, Our Texas. We also had music class where we were taught to sing the national anthem, America the Beautiful, Dixie, Battle Hymn of the Republic and a ton of old folk songs from all over the country.

We sang a lot in elementary school

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Even sang Chicken Fat in P.E.

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I was in choir when i was in Junior High. I could sing alto, middle soprano and high soprano. So I was in the back row, not because I was tall which I was, because I went to different sections because my voice was strong and I could keep the rest on their octave.

But there was a problem one night when my choir was singing at the local mall but my sister was getting married. So my brother was standing behind the last row and waiting to take me to the wedding. I did the change sections thing twice, I jumped back down to go back to the other section and my brother just picked me up saying, :Screw this." Carried me out to his car. Then he asked, "Anybody know where this church is?"

Because we got lost, I did not have time to change out of choir outfit. Yes, I wore black to my sister's wedding. My Mom gave me a dirty look, as did my sister. FTR: I was not wearing a choir gown, I was wearing a black velvet dress but had another light yellow dress in my brother's car. I didn't have time to change, unless I pulled a Baby Houseman in the backseat with two girls and another guy. Bro had a car full of people.

BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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Get a copy (new or used) of "Lone Star: A History Of Texas And The Texans" by T. R. Fehrenbach. Easy read and it will fill in the blanks of Texas History.

I walked into that building very late last year. Probably the 10th time in my life that I have made that trip. Took my two kids for the second time.

Eternal!

Our culture was different back then. Maybe it's just my age but people still cared about people. We found peace and joy in much simpler things.
I remember we all learned how to play a ukulele, a harmonica, a flute..in elementary school. And the singing.
My family was German and most kids in my elementary school were German……in the hill country area. So at Christmas especially we would sing German Christmas songs as well. Now most of that is all gone in those towns. Great comforting memories though.

Cinco Ranch Aggie. I also regret things like that but was way too young. Now those things mean more to us as we see life. Time to enjoy it all more now. Thanks, CR AG

CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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I went to the South Carolina game in November and some genius Gamecock fan had this sign prominently displayed at his tailgate.



I gave him a quick history lesson and said "so thanks for nothin'."

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Do tell…

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What part is unclear?

https://www.facebook.com/100064637625928/videos/1012285597442698?__so__=permalink


Hopefully this comes thru.

Hank the Grifter said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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I went to the South Carolina game in November and some genius Gamecock fan had this sign prominently displayed at his tailgate.



I gave him a quick history lesson and said "so thanks for nothin'."

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Do tell…

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What part is unclear?

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I wanted to hear your take on the history lesson…genuinely.

Remember the Alamo.

Remember Goliad.

CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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I went to the South Carolina game in November and some genius Gamecock fan had this sign prominently displayed at his tailgate.



I gave him a quick history lesson and said "so thanks for nothin'."

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Do tell…

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What part is unclear?

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I wanted to hear your take on the history lesson…genuinely.

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This feels like you're trying to set me up for a "gotcha" where you "inform" me that the the battle at the Alamo bought the Texians enough time to assemble an Army large enough to whip Santa Ana at San Jacinto.
First off, that's more lore than fact.
Second, context is a factor here. It wasn't exactly the forum for an intense historical debate. It was about a two minute long (at most) interaction in a parking lot with dudes pounding beers. I pointed out to him that while we were eternally grateful for Col. Travis and Bonham, the Alamo ain't famous for the rousing Texian victory that secured independence from Mexico. I reminded him that the Mexicans won the battle and it wasn't until late April that year that we whipped them at at San Jacinto.
At that point I pointed at his sign and went back into trash talking college football fan mode, smiled/winked at him and said "so thanks for nothin'".

dcbowers said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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Get a copy (new or used) of "Lone Star: A History Of Texas And The Texans" by T. R. Fehrenbach. Easy read and it will fill in the blanks of Texas History.

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I purchased this book probably a decade ago but have never read it. I think this will be my next non-fiction selection.

We were at the Alamo a couple of months ago. First time I've been to it since I was a kid. It's still awe inspiring. It looks like San Antonio is adding to the surrounding grounds and extending the entire footprint outward making it a much more prominent part of that part of SAT.

https://www.thealamo.org/support/alamo-plan

YouBet said:

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dcbowers said:

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BaileyAg said:

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One of my biggest regrets was not paying more attention in my Texas history class.
I'd eat all that up now

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Get a copy (new or used) of "Lone Star: A History Of Texas And The Texans" by T. R. Fehrenbach. Easy read and it will fill in the blanks of Texas History.

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I purchased this book probably a decade ago but have never read it. I think this will be my next non-fiction selection.

We were at the Alamo a couple of months ago. First time I've been to it since I was a kid. It's still awe inspiring. It looks like San Antonio is adding to the surrounding grounds and extending the entire footprint outward making it a much more prominent part of that part of SAT.

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SA is trying a re imagine thing but it's being fought by many. Its a liberal spin thing, and originally included removing the cenotaph located where historians and witness accounts claim that the defenders bodies were burned.

Apparently they found the original quarry where the Alamo limestone came from.



https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/03/06/original-limestone-quarry-used-for-alamo-discovered-at-san-antonio-zoo/

CyanideJenkins said:

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Apparently they found the original quarry where the Alamo limestone came from.



https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/03/06/original-limestone-quarry-used-for-alamo-discovered-at-san-antonio-zoo/

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Makes sense. That's the very obvious Balcones fault line that runs through there.

Hank the Grifter said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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I went to the South Carolina game in November and some genius Gamecock fan had this sign prominently displayed at his tailgate.



I gave him a quick history lesson and said "so thanks for nothin'."

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Do tell…

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What part is unclear?

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I wanted to hear your take on the history lesson…genuinely.

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This feels like you're trying to set me up for a "gotcha" where you "inform" me that the the battle at the Alamo bought the Texians enough time to assemble an Army large enough to whip Santa Ana at San Jacinto.
First off, that's more lore than fact.
Second, context is a factor here. It wasn't exactly the forum for an intense historical debate. It was about a two minute long (at most) interaction in a parking lot with dudes pounding beers. I pointed out to him that while we were eternally grateful for Col. Travis and Bonham, the Alamo ain't famous for the rousing Texian victory that secured independence from Mexico. I reminded him that the Mexicans won the battle and it wasn't until late April that year that we whipped them at at San Jacinto.
At that point I pointed at his sign and went back into trash talking college football fan mode, smiled/winked at him and said "so thanks for nothin'".

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It's not a gotcha. I said genuinely.

I'm a history nerd and like other history nerds and was just curious what you told him.

Thanks.