If it were up to me, I'd configure grocery store POS terminals to play The Offspring's "Why don't you get a job?" when someone swipes an EBT card.

BusterAg said:

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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Who would ever oppose this? Such an easy, common sense idea

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Conagra
Monsanto
Nestle
Frito-Lay / Pepsico
Coca-Cola
Eli Lilly (largest insulin producer)

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And every business that provides anything those companies need to make their products.

Trump is going to piss the F'k out of way too many businesses to count.

Love.It.!

No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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Who would ever oppose this? Such an easy, common sense idea

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Conagra
Monsanto
Nestle
Frito-Lay / Pepsico
Coca-Cola
Eli Lilly (largest insulin producer)

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And every business that provides anything those companies need to make their products.

Trump is going to piss the F'k out of way too many businesses to count.

Love.It.!

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Businesses can't vote.

People don't trust the media or commercials anymore.

People also hate welfare abuse.

The great thing about social media is it increases the availability of information outside of the big money. Big money tried to shut that down by buying out Facebook and Twitter. That failed.

Will be interesting for sure.

I'm just glad I'm not on the side of the aisle that would be rooting for welfare abuse and subsidizing terrible health choices with my tax dollars. It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.

BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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Who would ever oppose this? Such an easy, common sense idea

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Conagra
Monsanto
Nestle
Frito-Lay / Pepsico
Coca-Cola
Eli Lilly (largest insulin producer)

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And every business that provides anything those companies need to make their products.

Trump is going to piss the F'k out of way too many businesses to count.

Love.It.!

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Businesses can't vote.

People don't trust the media or commercials anymore.

People also hate welfare abuse.

The great thing about social media is it increases the availability of information outside of the big money. Big money tried to shut that down by buying out Facebook and Twitter. That failed.

Will be interesting for sure.

I'm just glad I'm not on the side of the aisle that would be rooting for welfare abuse and subsidizing terrible health choices with my tax dollars.

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Preach.

Money is fungible. They will just buy bread and milk with SNAP and then use their own left over money to by soda, chips, and crack.

Dem judge getting ready to declare that Constitutional right to Doritos and M&Ms exists and to remove it is racist

aTmAg said:

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Money is fungible. They will just buy bread and milk with SNAP and then use their own left over money to by soda, chips, and crack.

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Cool. Use YOUR money to buy your soda and crack not mine

aTmAg said:

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Money is fungible. They will just buy bread and milk with SNAP and then use their own left over money to by soda, chips, and crack.

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I don't care how people spend any of their own money.

During Covid everyone was so worried about the kids who couldn't get a meal because the school wasn't open. They set up food disbursement areas outside the school so people could drive up and get it. Inside contained carrots small milks, cookies, prepackaged cheese, and a sandwich. They kept track of who got what and then not even a week later they didn't keep track and anyone could go get it.

Then the next school year in august when school was open to those that wanted to come they kept the same program for those that thought it was too dangerous and this time they offered Texan tickets that you could register for if you picked up your lunch. Then the food was just not distributed any more and the school made a decision that everyone had to be back in school. Then nobody wanted it

Follow the money. These kids were obviously getting fed they just didn't want the ingredients.

Follow the money. I do not know what the schools were finances were but they had to be making money.

The food programs have been abused in all different ways and they should abolish them at the government level and bring them back to churches and food pantry and keep govt out of it.

FIDO*98* said:

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We should be banning damn near every packaged and processed food. Humans can thrive on meat, vegetables, beans, lentils, and rice. It's literally how most of the world eats.

Idiotic statements like "I don't have a problem with Mac and cheese" are the root cause of much of this. I don't have a problem with it either if you pay for it yourself. If you are relying on your neighbor to pay for your food, you get staples.

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When you are dying and limited in what you an eat, Mac and cheese gives you calories and bulk you actually need.


Get back to me when this is your problem

I am very sympathetic to what you were going through and think it is horrible and would not wish that on my worst enemy. It does not change the fact that somebody else should not have to pay for your processed food. There are plenty of soft foods that provide significantly more nutrition.

FIDO*98* said:

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I am very sympathetic to what you were going through and think it is horrible and would not wish that I'm my worst enemy. It does not change the fact that somebody else should not have to pay for your processed food. There are plenty of soft foods that provide significantly more nutrition.

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But they aren't 50 cents.


The stupid high protein jello is more than a Culver's concrete or that gross high protein ensure drinks

Tanya isn't on welfare, or SNAP.

She's been an advocate for change to the food welfare programs for as long as I can remember.

Tanya 93 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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We should be banning damn near every packaged and processed food. Humans can thrive on meat, vegetables, beans, lentils, and rice. It's literally how most of the world eats.

Idiotic statements like "I don't have a problem with Mac and cheese" are the root cause of much of this. I don't have a problem with it either if you pay for it yourself. If you are relying on your neighbor to pay for your food, you get staples.

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When you are dying and limited in what you an eat, Mac and cheese gives you calories and bulk you actually need.


Get back to me when this is your problem

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We don't need to set national policy because of fringe cases. That is ******ed.

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Tanya 93 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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We should be banning damn near every packaged and processed food. Humans can thrive on meat, vegetables, beans, lentils, and rice. It's literally how most of the world eats.

Idiotic statements like "I don't have a problem with Mac and cheese" are the root cause of much of this. I don't have a problem with it either if you pay for it yourself. If you are relying on your neighbor to pay for your food, you get staples.

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When you are dying and limited in what you an eat, Mac and cheese gives you calories and bulk you actually need.


Get back to me when this is your problem

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We don't need to set national policy because of fringe cases. That is ******ed.

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A fringe box is very easy to cover vs letting people buy 8 boxes of Lucky Charms


And national policy already sets these standards

Give me oatmeal, produce, bone in beef and chicken, shampoo, and soap

Maybe some juice or milk. Nasty protein jello cups, bread, and protein bars and I am covered for a month.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Go back to the generic products!

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I used to love eating the government cheese that my grandmother always had at her house.

Tanya 93 said:

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Sea Speed said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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We should be banning damn near every packaged and processed food. Humans can thrive on meat, vegetables, beans, lentils, and rice. It's literally how most of the world eats.

Idiotic statements like "I don't have a problem with Mac and cheese" are the root cause of much of this. I don't have a problem with it either if you pay for it yourself. If you are relying on your neighbor to pay for your food, you get staples.

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When you are dying and limited in what you an eat, Mac and cheese gives you calories and bulk you actually need.


Get back to me when this is your problem

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We don't need to set national policy because of fringe cases. That is ******ed.

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A fringe box is very easy to cover vs letting people buy 8 boxes of Lucky Charms


And national policy already sets these standards

Give me oatmeal, produce, bone in beef and chicken, shampoo, and soap

Maybe some juice or milk. Nasty protein jello cups, bread, and protein bars and I am covered for a month.

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Making so little go so far. You'd make a good Old-World Mexican, Tanya.

My grandparents could make a five-pound bag of flour and a few bags of masa mix, a few pounds of dried beans and rice, and the cheapest cuts of beef and chicken last that long.

It really doesn't take much to make food that might not be the "healthiest" but will keep you going day in and day out for longer than one would think.

BigRobSA said:

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Tanya isn't on welfare, or SNAP.

She's been an advocate for change to the food welfare programs for as long as I can remember.

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I wasn't implying she is. Her advocacy for SNAP reform makes exceptions for whatever processed foods she deems acceptable.

I can buy a bag of red lentils, rice, a few veggies plus spices and get 10 meals for $5 easy. That is much healthier than boxed Mac and Cheese which makes sense for a supplemental NUTRITION program

FIDO*98* said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Tanya isn't on welfare, or SNAP.

She's been an advocate for change to the food welfare programs for as long as I can remember.

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I wasn't implying she is. Her advocacy for SNAP reform makes exceptions for whatever processed foods she deems acceptable.

I can buy a bag of red lentils, rice, a few veggies plus spices and get 10 meals for $5 easy. That is much healthier than boxed Mac and Cheese which makes sense for a supplemental NUTRITION program

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I can't process things like lentils and beans right now Which is why I mentioned Mac and cheese.

I currently live off a clear diet. The meat and veggies make broth and the produce makes juice or broth

My diet sucks right now and will for a bit. Hence my reasoning for specific boxes vs only shopping the outer aisles.

I can't run my restaurant right now
Life sucks

So you're advocating on setting national policy on your very specific outlier case. Do we have that correct?

Sea Speed said:

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So you're advocating on setting national policy on your very specific outlier case. Do we have that correct?

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No

Tanya 93 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Tanya isn't on welfare, or SNAP.

She's been an advocate for change to the food welfare programs for as long as I can remember.

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I wasn't implying she is. Her advocacy for SNAP reform makes exceptions for whatever processed foods she deems acceptable.

I can buy a bag of red lentils, rice, a few veggies plus spices and get 10 meals for $5 easy. That is much healthier than boxed Mac and Cheese which makes sense for a supplemental NUTRITION program

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I can't process things like lentils and beans right now Which is why I mentioned Mac and cheese.

I currently live off a clear diet. The meat and veggies make broth and the produce makes juice or broth

My diet sucks right now and will for a bit. Hence my reasoning for specific boxes vs only shopping the outer aisles.

I can't run my restaurant right now
Life sucks

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I'm sorry to hear that, Tanya.

Is there a chance life will turn around for the better any time soon?

dabo man and the Demon Spawn came to visit me in STL.


They brought me my second favorite Gatorade!

When they roll in to the Dollar General parking lot driving their 2024 Escalade, they'll be in for a big surprise.

No candy/sodas on EBT is just the tip.

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https://www.wsaz.com/2025/02/20/trump-officials-want-ban-junk-food-snap-past-efforts-show-its-not-easy-do/?outputType=amp

" AP) - A push to ban sugary drinks, candy and more from the U.S. program that helps low-income families pay for nutritious food has been tried before but it may soon get a boost from new Trump administration officials."

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the newly confirmed health and human services secretary, and Brooke Rollins, the new agriculture secretary, have both signaled that they favor stripping such treats from SNAP, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program."

" The one place that I would say that we need to really change policy is the SNAP program and food stamps and in school lunches," Kennedy told Fox News host Laura Ingraham last week. "There, the federal government in many cases is paying for it. And we shouldn't be subsidizing people to eat poison."

" The program is run by the USDA, not HHS, and is administered through individual states. It is authorized by the federal Food and Nutrition Act of 2008, which says SNAP benefits can be used for "any food or food product intended for human consumption," except alcohol, tobacco and hot foods, including those prepared for immediate consumption.

Excluding any foods would require Congress to change the law or for states to get waivers that would let them restrict purchases, said Katie Bergh, a senior policy analyst for the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a nonpartisan research group.

Over the past 20 years, lawmakers in several states have proposed stopping SNAP from paying for bottled water, soda, chips, ice cream, decorated cakes and "luxury meats" like steak."

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Good Trump! Eliminate a lot of diabetes and tell people if they want a sweet treat they can eat an apple! Probably save on Medicaid Ozempic payouts as well.

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Absolutely a good idea.

aTmAg said:

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Money is fungible. They will just buy bread and milk with SNAP and then use their own left over money to by soda, chips, and crack.

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I accept your terms. If they want to spend their own money on crap, fine by me. My tax dollars shouldn't be spent on junk food.

Good. It should be for staples.

Ulysses90 said:

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My mother was a city employee that ran a senior citizen's center in the 1970s. I remember as a kid going with her to distribute surplus food from the USDA to low income elderly and families with young children. The welfare food that they received at that time was flour, sugar, salt, pepper, butter, milk, eggs (just imagine!), Colby cheese, potatoes, sweet potatoes, turnips, spinach or collard greens, fresh fruit in season, dry rice, and dry beans. We lived in the Mesilla valley so if you add some locally grown green chile to that mix you had a pretty good pantry for subsistence. They even distributed free spiral bound cookbooks printed by the government printing office. Food staples rather than packaged food is a better way to feed the poor, at least those that have a stove and oven. /old Gen X story

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I lived in a housing project growing up. My mom was single, with three kids and worked as a school lunch lady.My dad paid child support when he felt like it $10 dollars a month for each child. He was a welder. Needless to say we lived below the poverty line. I remember getting commodities which were government surplus ( flour, rice, sugar and cheese, and powdered eggs , not fresh. There was no snap, no welfare except for the subsidized apt rent. It was a bare bones apt. with concrete floors. My mom was a good cook , she knew how to stretch the food we had. She did all the baking for the school. She made the best big fulffy yeast rolls. I was 5'4" and weighed 91 pounds when I graduated from high school.

Do away with SNAP cards and anything similar. Recipients of aid should be required to go pick up a bag of rice, bag of beans, a block of cheese, and some powdered milk once or twice a month.

Maroon Dawn said:

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aTmAg said:

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Money is fungible. They will just buy bread and milk with SNAP and then use their own left over money to by soda, chips, and crack.

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Cool. Use YOUR money to buy your soda and crack not mine

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The point is, we shouldn't be giving them ANY MONEY AT ALL.

You can try to feel good in pretending that your money doesn't go to soda and crack, but it actually does.

The same with federal funding to planned parenthood. Even though congress pretends that they don't go to abortions, they actually do. Pretending otherwise is nothing but a cope.

This is a no brainer.

Heck make it like WIC.

Courtesy Flush said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Go back to the generic products!

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I used to love eating the government cheese that my grandmother always had at her house.

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I only learned a year or two ago that government cheese is a literal thing. In short,

• In the 1970's, the price of dairy products got high.
• President Carter decided to "fix" the problem by subsidizing the dairy industry.
• As you might have expected from ECON 101, the dairy industry then massively overproduced milk.
• The federal government bought up the surplus milk. Nobody knew what to do with it, but nobody liked the idea of throwing away perfectly good food. So the milk was made into cheese, which has a much longer shelf life.
• The Reagan administration inherited a stockpile of 200,000+ tons of cheese. And decided to just hand it out to poor people.

If you must have it, it should be limited to things like chicken, ground beef, rice, beans, water and basic produce.

Then maybe we wouldn't have the most morbidly obese poor people in the world.

Good idea.

I love Coke but it is bad for you. I gave it up and it's been 14 months. Reduce sugar. Reduce obesity.

Refusing to pay for junk food is what I want. But for now, I also want to rest.
And digest foods easily.

Hell, I have my songs picked for the funeral home.

We need humor there.