Republican parents should start telling their kids to go into law

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TheWoodlandsTxAg
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I was guilty of this as well, and I don't want to disparage any of these careers since they are financially and personally rewarding for many.

I have only heard Republican parents tell their kids to go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. I recommended a couple of those fields. My family members have been rewarded insanely well both personally and financially for going into these fields. However, I cannot believe how much more good they could have done for society if they went into the legal profession with their Republican/conservative beliefs.

Constitutional law, criminal law, civil law, and immigration law.

The local criminal courts and district attorneys offices have been taken over by far left George and Alex Soros funded Democrat activists in every major urban metro area, and suburbs as well (like Buta Biberaj who caused much harm to Loudon County, Virginia before she recently lost to a Republican). These judges release repeat violent offenders on unlimited cashless personal recognizance bonds, and the district attorneys refuse to prosecute these repeat violent offenders because of their personal beliefs of race Marxism. The new Democrat criminal court judges, district attorneys, and prosecutors funded by Soros are pro-violent criminal. They say it openly:

https://cdn.mrc.org/static/pdfuploads/Soros+Report_FINAL_PAGES.pdf-1723215421233.pdf

https://mrc.org/sorosdocuments

Most of the immigration courts which determine asylum cases for illegal immigrants are staffed with far left Democrat activists as well.

The constitutional law courts have been taken over by far left activists. These are judicial activists who have written in their legal writing that "America is the most racist country in world history" and "the US constitution is the most racist document in human history". Go watch Senator Cruz question some of these federal district court judges Biden appointed. Never forget that Liberia has the same constitutional text as the US. We need strong constitutionalists like Thomas, Alito, James Ho, and Matthew Kacsmaryk to protect our rights. At all times, all of your rights are determined by nine people in robes in the federal judiciary.

Stop telling your Republican/conservative kids to exclusively only go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. They can always major in engineering, bio/premed, finance, accounting, and actuarial science and always have that degree waiting for them if law does not work out for them. We need a massive generational influx of Republican/conservative late Gen Z and early Gen Alpha entering the legal profession.

The future of public safety and constitutional rights depends on it.
Fins Up!
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Yes. This is happening at my house. I am first in a family of multi-generational lawyers to not go to law school.

I am making sure that only skipped my generation. My kid is dialed up with that as a goal already.
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Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.
I understand that if you want to go into big law like Vinson and Elkins and make an extremely high salary.

However, you can make a moderate salary in the public sector as a local judge (associate district judge, assistant district judge, district court judge, county court at law judge, municipal judge, or bond magistrate judge), or assistant district attorney (and eventually run for DA in a suburban or rural county), and do so much good for society. These government positions will also have excellent benefits.

You can also clerk for federal and state judges, and work your way into the federal and state judiciary. That way you can protect our rights.

We need Republicans/conservatives to go into the legal profession.
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

I was guilty of this as well, and I don't want to disparage any of these careers since they are financially and personally rewarding for many.

I have only heard Republican parents tell their kids to go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. I recommended a couple of those fields. My family members have been rewarded insanely well both personally and financially for going into these fields. However, I cannot believe how much more good they could have done for society if they went into the legal profession with their Republican/conservative beliefs.

Constitutional law, criminal law, civil law, and immigration law.

The local criminal courts and district attorneys offices have been taken over by far left George and Alex Soros funded Democrat activists in every major urban metro area, and suburbs as well (like Buta Biberaj who caused much harm to Loudon County, Virginia before she recently lost to a Republican). These judges release repeat violent offenders on unlimited cashless personal recognizance bonds, and the district attorneys refuse to prosecute these repeat violent offenders because of their personal beliefs of race Marxism. The new Democrat criminal court judges, district attorneys, and prosecutors funded by Soros are pro-violent criminal. They say it openly:

https://cdn.mrc.org/static/pdfuploads/Soros+Report_FINAL_PAGES.pdf-1723215421233.pdf

https://mrc.org/sorosdocuments

Most of the immigration courts which determine asylum cases for illegal immigrants are staffed with far left Democrat activists as well.

The constitutional law courts have been taken over by far left activists. These are judicial activists who have written in their legal writing that "America is the most racist country in world history" and "the US constitution is the most racist document in human history". Go watch Senator Cruz question some of these federal district court judges Biden appointed. Never forget that Liberia has the same constitutional text as the US. We need strong constitutionalists like Thomas, Alito, James Ho, and Matthew Kacsmaryk to protect our rights. At all times, all of your rights are determined by nine people in robes in the federal judiciary.

Stop telling your Republican/conservative kids to exclusively only go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. They can always major in engineering, bio/premed, finance, accounting, and actuarial science and always have that degree waiting for them if law does not work out for them. We need a massive generational influx of Republican/conservative late Gen Z and early Gen Alpha entering the legal profession.

The future of public safety and constitutional rights depends on it.
My SIL in doing just that. Aggie, MDiv from Southern Seminary, Law School at Baylor (full ride offer), SMU (still waiting) or A&M next.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.


This is incorrect. Those are good places to start, but they work you to death and it's not a long term situation most can handle sanely. I started there, then left and built my own firm, where every case I handle is against the government. I do very well, and others can too if they have the drive.
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Keller6Ag91 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

I was guilty of this as well, and I don't want to disparage any of these careers since they are financially and personally rewarding for many.

I have only heard Republican parents tell their kids to go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. I recommended a couple of those fields. My family members have been rewarded insanely well both personally and financially for going into these fields. However, I cannot believe how much more good they could have done for society if they went into the legal profession with their Republican/conservative beliefs.

Constitutional law, criminal law, civil law, and immigration law.

The local criminal courts and district attorneys offices have been taken over by far left George and Alex Soros funded Democrat activists in every major urban metro area, and suburbs as well (like Buta Biberaj who caused much harm to Loudon County, Virginia before she recently lost to a Republican). These judges release repeat violent offenders on unlimited cashless personal recognizance bonds, and the district attorneys refuse to prosecute these repeat violent offenders because of their personal beliefs of race Marxism. The new Democrat criminal court judges, district attorneys, and prosecutors funded by Soros are pro-violent criminal. They say it openly:

https://cdn.mrc.org/static/pdfuploads/Soros+Report_FINAL_PAGES.pdf-1723215421233.pdf

https://mrc.org/sorosdocuments

Most of the immigration courts which determine asylum cases for illegal immigrants are staffed with far left Democrat activists as well.

The constitutional law courts have been taken over by far left activists. These are judicial activists who have written in their legal writing that "America is the most racist country in world history" and "the US constitution is the most racist document in human history". Go watch Senator Cruz question some of these federal district court judges Biden appointed. Never forget that Liberia has the same constitutional text as the US. We need strong constitutionalists like Thomas, Alito, James Ho, and Matthew Kacsmaryk to protect our rights. At all times, all of your rights are determined by nine people in robes in the federal judiciary.

Stop telling your Republican/conservative kids to exclusively only go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. They can always major in engineering, bio/premed, finance, accounting, and actuarial science and always have that degree waiting for them if law does not work out for them. We need a massive generational influx of Republican/conservative late Gen Z and early Gen Alpha entering the legal profession.

The future of public safety and constitutional rights depends on it.
My SIL in doing just that. Aggie, MDiv from Southern Seminary, Law School at Baylor (full ride offer), SMU (still waiting) or A&M next.
Wow. Congrats.
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That's my point, you sound like you have built a successful practice but you started in a big firm and have had it on your resume as you progressed.

I am running my own consulting shop now but started in Big 4 (Big 6 back in the day) accounting and have had that on my resume as well throughout my career. In both of our professions it seems like the first step or two out of school can help define your career for right or wrong.
Fins Up!
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Totally 100%, unequivocally disagree.

I know a lot of sole practitioners, or dual practitioners with more clients than they can service that have no succession plan. They are salivating for a young associate to come and take over a thriving practice.
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I have only heard Republican parents tell their kids to go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science


Because Republicans are smart parents!!

I'm Gipper
Jack Boyette
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Ag CPA said:

That's my point, you sound like you have built a successful practice but you started in a big firm and have had it on your resume as you progressed.

I am running my own consulting shop now but started in Big 4 (Big 6 back in the day) accounting and have had that on my resume as well throughout my career. In both of our professions it seems like the first step or two out of school can help define your career for right or wrong.


I hear you. While I do think it helps credibility to have worked in one, I don't think that's because it ACTUALLY helps you in your work. I actually think it can hurt in some ways. However, perception ism matters, right or wrong. I know plenty of great lawyers who never did, and plenty who did/do and suck.
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

I was guilty of this as well, and I don't want to disparage any of these careers since they are financially and personally rewarding for many.

I have only heard Republican parents tell their kids to go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. I recommended a couple of those fields. My family members have been rewarded insanely well both personally and financially for going into these fields. However, I cannot believe how much more good they could have done for society if they went into the legal profession with their Republican/conservative beliefs.

Constitutional law, criminal law, civil law, and immigration law.

The local criminal courts and district attorneys offices have been taken over by far left George and Alex Soros funded Democrat activists in every major urban metro area, and suburbs as well (like Buta Biberaj who caused much harm to Loudon County, Virginia before she recently lost to a Republican). These judges release repeat violent offenders on unlimited cashless personal recognizance bonds, and the district attorneys refuse to prosecute these repeat violent offenders because of their personal beliefs of race Marxism. The new Democrat criminal court judges, district attorneys, and prosecutors funded by Soros are pro-violent criminal. They say it openly:

https://cdn.mrc.org/static/pdfuploads/Soros+Report_FINAL_PAGES.pdf-1723215421233.pdf

https://mrc.org/sorosdocuments

Most of the immigration courts which determine asylum cases for illegal immigrants are staffed with far left Democrat activists as well.

The constitutional law courts have been taken over by far left activists. These are judicial activists who have written in their legal writing that "America is the most racist country in world history" and "the US constitution is the most racist document in human history". Go watch Senator Cruz question some of these federal district court judges Biden appointed. Never forget that Liberia has the same constitutional text as the US. We need strong constitutionalists like Thomas, Alito, James Ho, and Matthew Kacsmaryk to protect our rights. At all times, all of your rights are determined by nine people in robes in the federal judiciary.

Stop telling your Republican/conservative kids to exclusively only go into engineering, medicine/dentistry, finance, accounting, and actuarial science. They can always major in engineering, bio/premed, finance, accounting, and actuarial science and always have that degree waiting for them if law does not work out for them. We need a massive generational influx of Republican/conservative late Gen Z and early Gen Alpha entering the legal profession.

The future of public safety and constitutional rights depends on it.
There are too many lawyers as it is.
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We are vastly outnumbered by liberals in the field of law. I agree with you - we need more conservative lawyers.

But I will tell you that a big part of the problem is that the vast majority of judges, DA's, and government lawyers are liberal because as a group they are typically less successful in private practice. That makes public office more appealing to them because the pay is better than they were making. The best lawyers are successful in private practice or as in-house general counsel and make significantly more money.

And before you come with your pitch forks, I'm talking in generalizations here. Anecdotal evidence to the contrary doesn't invalidate the point.
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Most everything you claimed is true, but it's actually far worse than you can imagine!!
It's these very reasons that I'm strongly considering trying a different career path (even though I'll maintain my active attorney status); in fact, I ALWAYS have wanted to be a coach, but my mom was a teacher, so naturally she discouraged this pursuit since teachers & coaches are mortal enemies, like lions & hyenas!!
BUT, I've done extremely well financially in my legal practice, but that no longer outweighs my disgust for the blatant biases, two tiered application of justice, & the immoral urge to "win" irrespective of the ethical & religious costs.
THEREFORE, I'm prepared to rock the 1970s version of coaching fashion (just for my own amusement), while taking a wrecking ball approach to the history & govt/ civics classes I'll teach in order to combat the woke, far-left BS that's infested our education system!!!
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First thought reading the OP title.
Im Gipper
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I started in the DAs office, then US attorneys office, then a short stint with AG's office before going to private practice.

I agree 100% with your assessment!


There are too many lawyers, but not enough lawyers in public service positions. Not lucrative enough!

I'm Gipper
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I'm a young attorney- about 1.5 yrs in practice right now.

I'm trying to get to DC and make an impact as fast as I can
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Im Gipper said:

I started in the DAs office, then US attorneys office, then a short stint with AG's office before going to private practice.

I agree 100% with your assessment!


There are too many lawyers, but not enough lawyers in public service positions. Not lucrative enough!
Unless you get elected to Congress. Looking at their net worth, some public service is greatly rewarding.
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If they are younger men, let's say mid teens, get them interested in both law and AI / LLMs.

The dam should be fully broken by the time they pass the bar, and having skills in both will make them insanely rich.
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.

That's definitely completely false. I have two dozen associates at my firm who went to mid-tier Texas law schools, weren't top of their class, didn't go into big law, and are all making between $175k and $280k base before a bonus depending on experience and level of seniority. And we give out bonuses of $25k bare minimum and usually much more.

That's a lot less than I make as a partner, and it's a lot less than somebody at V&E or Baker Botts makes, but to say that it's a dead end career if you don't go into big law is just nonsense, and I'm not even factoring in the opportunities that a law degree and legal experience can open up for people outside of private practice. If you're intelligent and work hard, you will make plenty of money as a lawyer and more mid-tier law graduates than you can count have turned it into an extremely lucrative career.
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My extremely conservative little brother (even managed to stay conservative while attending tu Law) has worked as a prosecutor, asst DA, and appellate attorney in multiple central texas districts. He's always been very black and white, good vs evil, puts away the bad guys no matter what. Actually, I'm sure some attorneys on this board know him. My point, there's still some good ones out there working for a lot less than they could make in private practice.
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.


Starve to death unless you get with democrat crooks.
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.


Everybody Wants to go to Heaven, But Nobody Wants to Die
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.


This is a very definitive statement that is not entirely true. While I went to a top law school and spent a short stint at big law, my partners did not and they make high 6 figures in their mid 30s.

There are significant opportunities for conservative attorneys from top law schools. 2 out of 5 of my study partners worked in the first Trump admin. 4 out of 5 of us were offered jobs this go around but none accepted because we are all making too much money in our careers now to 10 years post graduation to take a 65-80% pay cut.
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TxLawDawg said:

We are vastly outnumbered by liberals in the field of law. I agree with you - we need more conservative lawyers.

But I will tell you that a big part of the problem is that the vast majority of judges, DA's, and government lawyers are liberal because as a group they are typically less successful in private practice. That makes public office more appealing to them because the pay is better than they were making. The best lawyers are successful in private practice or as in-house general counsel and make significantly more money.

And before you come with your pitch forks, I'm talking in generalizations here. Anecdotal evidence to the contrary doesn't invalidate the point.
I live in a town of about 9,000 and it is the county seat, so we are overrun with attorneys. What you said about judges and DAs is exactly the case where I live. Even other attorneys who still practice as attorneys will make comments about some judge, DA, or assistant DA as having been a really poor lawyer. And in a town this size, everyone knows everyone. I can only think of one judge who was a great lawyer, we worked together a couple of times. The only time I chose not to get out of jury duty was in his court, I respected him too much to pull my regular shenanigans.
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Swan Song said:

My extremely conservative little brother (even managed to stay conservative while attending tu Law) has worked as a prosecutor, asst DA, and appellate attorney in multiple central texas districts. He's always been very black and white, good vs evil, puts away the bad guys no matter what. Actually, I'm sure some attorneys on this board know him. My point, there's still some good ones out there working for a lot less than they could make in private practice.
Let him know that he is a hero.
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I tell any young person that asks about law school to avoid it at all costs unless they are dead set on being a solo or small firm lawyer or are dead set on government. I worked for biglaw and hated it.
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I know plenty of fellow Republican attorneys. It's not like we don't exist!

The Federalist Society Lawyers Division is comprised of over 65,000 legal professionals and others interested in current intellectual and practical developments in the law.

It has active chapters in ninety cities, including Washington, D.C., New York, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, San Francisco, Denver, Atlanta, Houston, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Indianapolis. Activities include the annual National Lawyers Convention, a Speakers Bureau for organizing lectures and debates, and 15 Practice Groups.
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Careful. A.I. is changing law forever.

Monday my firm got an AI program (Westlaw add-on) that researches as well as a young lawyer and drafts contract provisions extremely well too.

We had an associate here research an issue and do a memo. It took her several days to get it back. I put it into A.I. and the memo I got back (in < 2 minutes) was just as good. Kind of eye opening.

My partner is dealing with an easement, and the client was concerned about potential liability going forward. A.I. drafted an indemnity provision in seconds that was excellent. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around all this going forward. But I think it is clear that the job market will be tightening for lawyers.
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If you want to actually do something tangible then JOIN THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY

it's open to non-attorneys as well.

the Society plays a major role in selecting applicants for Judgeships and Justices.

https://fedsoc.org/membership
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.



lol. I never worked for one of those firms and I'm doing just fine. I'm not a PI lawyer, but there are many of those that would disagree as well.

Perhaps stick to what you know.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
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LMCane said:

If you want to actually do something tangible then JOIN THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY

it's open to non-attorneys as well.

the Society plays a major role in selecting applicants for Judgeships and Justices.

https://fedsoc.org/membership
I was in the Federalist Society in law school. Then I done caught the lib virus and am now a CM!
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The Federalist Society is Ok, but its really just an academic club.

The refusal to take policy stances, make endorsements, or take action on anything is really limiting IMO.
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GeorgiAg said:

LMCane said:

If you want to actually do something tangible then JOIN THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY

it's open to non-attorneys as well.

the Society plays a major role in selecting applicants for Judgeships and Justices.

https://fedsoc.org/membership
I was in the Federalist Society in law school. Then I done caught the lib virus and am now a CM!
I thought it was because you bragged to F16 about voting for Biden?
Jabin
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Ag CPA said:

Too many lawyers as it is; unless you get into one of the top firms out of school it's a dead-end career.
Couldn't be more wrong. BigLaw is a dead end and huge mistake for most lawyers who go that route.
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