The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem. Many say the 2020 election was the most secure election we ever conducted, despite the evidence. https://electioninnovation.org/research/one-year-since-january-6/

Musk continues to find undisputed proof of waste, fraud and abuse. As what happened with election fraud in 2020, the left has mobilized the courts. The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem. Is this a guarantee that waste, fraud and abuse will return to the Federal government immediately after Republican's leave the presidency. What would be the bulwark Republicans could feasibly build over the next four years?

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem. Many say the 2020 election was the most secure election we ever conducted, despite the evidence. https://electioninnovation.org/research/one-year-since-january-6/

Musk continues to find undisputed proof of waste, fraud and abuse. As what happened with election fraud in 2020, the left has mobilized the courts. The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem. Is this a guarantee that waste, fraud and abuse will return to the Federal government immediately after Republican's leave the presidency. What would be the bulwark Republicans could feasibly build over the next four years?

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You mean "next 12 years".

No

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem. Many say the 2020 election was the most secure election we ever conducted, despite the evidence. https://electioninnovation.org/research/one-year-since-january-6/

Musk continues to find undisputed proof of waste, fraud and abuse. As what happened with election fraud in 2020, the left has mobilized the courts. The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem. Is this a guarantee that waste, fraud and abuse will return to the Federal government immediately after Republican's leave the presidency. What would be the bulwark Republicans could feasibly build over the next four years?

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Legacy media is dying, it's relevance evaporating. They can no longer shape narratives that the majority of voters will accept. Covid is a great example. The Wuhan lab leak cover up, lies and de-platforming are not going to happen again. They won't be able to successfully label people as racist kooks for thinking the virus escaped from the lab instead of some bat in a meat market down the street.

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem.

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they can only be two things: America- hating communists, or ritaarded.

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem.

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they can only be two things: America- hating communists, or ritaarded.

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Either way, they are part of the electorate, for now.

Democrats view election fraud as an essential tool to control (read as win) elections. As such they deny the existence of mass voter (mail in voting, polluted voter rolls, etc..) fraud to protect and expand the ability to cheat.

Democrats view mass gov't spending graft as an essential tool to advance their agendas and enrich themselves. As such they deny the existence of massive waste and fraud (stunning levels of graft being uncovered) to protect and expand their ability to advance their goals and enrich themselves.

Democrats are in panic mode that the graft will be dramatically curtailed. That will have a cascade effect on their ability to cheat in elections and maintain political power and patronage.

I expect to see much action on elections in the final 2 years of Trump, maybe even in the final 6 months.

Use emergency powers to require voting on election day in person with proof of citizenship. Let the libs pound that you have no standing sand as the elections are conducted according to those emergency declarations.

Completely reverse the dumbarssery of 2020 elections.

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Democrats view election fraud as an essential tool to control (read as win) elections. As such they deny the existence of mass voter (mail in voting, polluted voter rolls, etc..) fraud to protect and expand the ability to cheat.

Democrats view mass gov't spending graft as an essential tool to advance their agendas and enrich themselves. As such they deny the existence of massive waste and fraud (stunning levels of graft being uncovered) to protect and expand their ability to advance their goals and enrich themselves.

Democrats are in panic mode that the graft will be dramatically curtailed. That will have a cascade effect on their ability to cheat in elections and maintain political power and patronage.

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understand why bureaucrats and democrat politicians and their Pravda media arm want big government and think phony controlled elections and bigger and bigger government with more and more waste and abuse are good things for them, but they've still allegedly got around 70 million useful idiots agreeing and voting for it. And thinking exposing wasteful government spending is a bad thing.

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I expect to see much action on elections in the final 2 years of Trump, maybe even in the final 6 months.

Use emergency powers to require voting on election day in person with proof of citizenship. Let the libs pound that you have no standing sand as the elections are conducted according to those emergency declarations.

Completely reverse the dumbarssery of 2020 elections.

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The constitution is abundantly clear that any federal oversight of the States running of federal elections has to come through a bill from Congress.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-1/ALDE_00013351/

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The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

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If I was a state AG, and Trump tried to do election monitoring through EO, I would completely ignore him out of principal alone.

Me, a huge MAGA guy, would still ignore him. Protecting federalism is more important.

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flown-the-coop said:

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I expect to see much action on elections in the final 2 years of Trump, maybe even in the final 6 months.

Use emergency powers to require voting on election day in person with proof of citizenship. Let the libs pound that you have no standing sand as the elections are conducted according to those emergency declarations.

Completely reverse the dumbarssery of 2020 elections.

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The constitution is abundantly clear that any federal oversight of the States running of federal elections has to come through a bill from Congress.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-1/ALDE_00013351/

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The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

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If I was a state AG, and Trump tried to do election monitoring through EO, I would completely ignore him out of principal alone.

Me, a huge MAGA guy, would still ignore him. Protecting federalism is more important.

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Can you point me to the bill passed by Congress in 2020 that allowed all the changes the federal election?

And I didn't say EO. I said emergency powers. Very different animals.

And I am being facetious regardless concerning the election. Its what I as Dictator Coop would do.

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Can you point me to the bill passed by Congress in 2020 that allowed all the changes the federal election?

And I didn't say EO. I said emergency powers. Very different animals.

And I am being facetious regardless concerning the election. Its what I as Dictator Coop would do.

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All the changes to the election processes for 2020 came through the states, not the federal government.

I don't want to give the federal government the ability to use emergency powers to change how the States run their election.

Honestly, I don't want to give the federal government the ability to use emergency powers to do almost anything.

The current left is lost. The battle is for the middle. Getting them means defeating the left's machine. So… move quick and cut deep: Purge and claw back leftist media subsidization, wrest the algorithms away from leftist bias, set election integrity safeguards in place, & toss leftist criminals in jail. Let the screeching occur now and dust settle for before the next election. Rip the band aide now & let the insane left push swing voters toward the right.

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Can you point me to the bill passed by Congress in 2020 that allowed all the changes the federal election?

And I didn't say EO. I said emergency powers. Very different animals.

And I am being facetious regardless concerning the election. Its what I as Dictator Coop would do.

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All the changes to the election processes for 2020 came through the states, not the federal government.

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Many through the judiciary or executives, which is unconstitutional.

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BusterAg said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Can you point me to the bill passed by Congress in 2020 that allowed all the changes the federal election?

And I didn't say EO. I said emergency powers. Very different animals.

And I am being facetious regardless concerning the election. Its what I as Dictator Coop would do.

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All the changes to the election processes for 2020 came through the states, not the federal government.

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Many through the judiciary or executives, which is unconstitutional.

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Agree 100%. But that was mostly the cause of:

1) State legislatures not moving fast enough
2) Cowardice or complicit cooperation of the entire judiciary, state and federal, all the way up to SCOTUS.

Damn, I'm smart. Lookie here!

I told Trump's team for FOUR YEARS that CISA was one of the key places where America's elections are stolen.

About 130 employees at CISA were just fired.

Finally.

This is the way.

— Emerald Robinson ✝️ (@EmeraldRobinson) February 18, 2025

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Many through the judiciary or executives, which is unconstitutional.

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Agree 100%. But that was mostly the cause of:

1) State legislatures not moving fast enough
2) Cowardice or complicit cooperation of the entire judiciary, state and federal, all the way up to SCOTUS.

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There is no provision in the Constitution for 1. And 2. is still unconstitutional.

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What would be the bulwark Republicans could feasibly build over the next four years?

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Messaging to the body politic. Force Dems to run on adding to waste, fraud and abuse.

BUT there is another angle that I have been watching. CISA. I have long suspected that CISA and the corollary EAC as established under Help America to Vote Act were deeply in bed with the electronic voting machine companies. By that I mean the government has always known those systems were very insecure and easily manipulated. DOGE could find those receipts.

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Mam your suspicions are correct.

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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Correction:

The left does not ADMIT that election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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hoopla said:

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem. Many say the 2020 election was the most secure election we ever conducted, despite the evidence. https://electioninnovation.org/research/one-year-since-january-6/

Musk continues to find undisputed proof of waste, fraud and abuse. As what happened with election fraud in 2020, the left has mobilized the courts. The left, once again, will refuse to see a problem. Is this a guarantee that waste, fraud and abuse will return to the Federal government immediately after Republican's leave the presidency. What would be the bulwark Republicans could feasibly build over the next four years?

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One can say with complete objectivity that there is NO way 2020 was an especially secure election. Too many rogue changes had been made before-hand, and the very nature of MIB voting makes security lacking.

So ironically its the Left pushing that over-claim that gives the tell it was probably bogus but that is a more fluid argument. But the first paragraph above is fact.

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I think a bigger concern is where did the 6 Million Democrat voters disappear to between 2020 and 2024????

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hoopla said:

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The left does not believe election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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Correction:

The left does not ADMIT that election fraud is, or was, a problem.

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For them, it's NOT a problem. It's essential to their retaining power.

You see, when you can no longer win the majority population through the arena of ideas, you must resort to alternative means to retain power. In our current time, that means demonizing the opposition and rigging the game to ensure you win elections.

The bigoted left is dependent upon leeching via waste, fraud and abuse.

"But without CISA how can we have elections free from Russian interference!?!"

…in person voting on paper ballots…?

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"But without CISA how can we have elections free from Russian interference!?!"

…in person voting on paper ballots…?

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Source codes. Spill them. I'd wager it would take one of Elon's weaponized autists about ten minutes to identify all of the algos used to tamper with vote totals, among other things.