Second Amendment EO

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[Not the full text. -Staff]
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From the White House on the 2d Amendment:
02/07/25
EXECUTIVE ORDER
PROTECTING SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose. The Second Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because it is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.




Well well well. It looks like at first glance he's coming after excess regulations from the ATF maybe? What say our knowledgeable lawyer types on here?
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Time to buy full auto and then lose them in a boating accident
Cibalo
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Time to buy a howitzer and a Come and Take it flag
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This is a start, but the scope shouldn't be 2021-2025, it should be 1788-present
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Repeal the NFA.
Rapier108
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Changing the gun laws, such as weakening or repealing the NFA, will require an act of Congress.

Trump can nuke ATF regulations, but that's about it. Definitely needs to stop the ATF from closing gun stores and revoking FFLs for a one off clerical error.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Changing the gun laws, such as weakening or repealing the NFA, will require an act of Congress.

Trump can nuke ATF regulations, but that's about it. Definitely needs to stop the ATF from closing gun stores and revoking FFLs for a one off clerical error.

He can also do things like allow collectibles to be imported again. I think Korea has a bunch of WWII surplus M1s that Obama put the kibosh on importing.
Trump will fix it.
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Amen. Happened to a local pawn and gun dealer here. His place wasn't fancy, but his prices were very competitive. Those dealers that were unfairly and unjustly persecuted over clerical paperwork errors should get a full review under this administration.
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If the right case against the NFA was granted cert buy SCOTUS, this court might overturn it. Barrel length bull**** and putting a tax on suppressors is infringement. Any 5th grader who understands the definition of the word can understand that.
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NRA probably doesn't like this
MRB10
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Tax stamp repeal or adjustment needs congress, yes?

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Ulysses90 said:

If the right case against the NFA was granted cert buy SCOTUS, this court might overturn it. Barrel length bull**** and putting a tax on suppressors is infringement. Any 5th grader who understands the definition of the word can understand that.
Yep, I'd like to see suppressors removed completely along with SBRs and SBSs.

Full autos, I have no issue with a little bit better background check.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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MRB10 said:

Tax stamp repeal or adjustment needs congress, yes?
Tax stamp would require Congress as it is part of the NFA and not just an ATF regulation.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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i think he should make an Executive Order declaring that AR-15 does not mean Assault Rifle 15
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MRB10 said:

Tax stamp repeal or adjustment needs congress, yes?




Yes
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gkaggie08 said:

This is a start, but the scope shouldn't be 2021-2025, it should be 1788-present


Leaving his regulations in place.
Old May Banker
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Cans should be 100% legal to buy off the shelf.
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That doesn't change my opinion of the scope of the EO
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Ulysses90 said:

If the right case against the NFA was granted cert buy SCOTUS, this court might overturn it. Barrel length bull**** and putting a tax on suppressors is infringement. Any 5th grader who understands the definition of the word can understand that.

Unfortunately the 5th circuit just ruled that a suppressor isn't provided the same 2nd amendment protections as the firearm itself.
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Old May Banker said:

Cans should be 100% legal to buy off the shelf.

Yes please. Still haven't figured out how protecting my hearing and everyone else's hearing is dangerous?

You can buy suppressors over the counter in the most anti gun countries. In fact, in a lot of countries, you can't fire a gun WITHOUT one.

But the ATF thinks it makes a gun more dangerous??
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Absolutely fascinating real time experiment; impose an authoritarian regime while simultaneously expanding firearm accessibility.
Old May Banker
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Cry more...
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WAAAAAAAAAA
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I hope this means that we can concealed cary on federal property. I almost never have any guns with me because I'm worried that I might lose my job if my vehicle gets inspected at the gate.
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FlyRod said:

Absolutely fascinating real time experiment; impose an authoritarian regime while simultaneously expanding firearm accessibility.
Now do Covid with masking and vaccine mandates.
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FlyRod said:

Absolutely fascinating real time experiment; impose an authoritarian regime while simultaneously expanding firearm accessibility.


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Rapier108 said:

Changing the gun laws, such as weakening or repealing the NFA, will require an act of Congress.

Trump can nuke ATF regulations, but that's about it. Definitely needs to stop the ATF from closing gun stores and revoking FFLs for a one off clerical error.


Or a supreme court that will rule them unconstitutional.
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BATFE just needs to be eliminated

Same with the DEA.

It should all fall under the FBI. There should be no walls between fed law enforcement agencies. One roof. The system we have clearly facilitates corruption. waste, and rogue actions.

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'bear arms'
Should be able to arm myself with whatever I want then walk around bearing free and natural like God expects.
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Sec. 2. Plan of Action. (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, and other actions of executive departments and agencies (agencies) to assess any ongoing infringements of the Second Amendment rights of our citizens, and present a proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor, to protect the Second Amendment rights of all Americans.

(b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall review, at a minimum:

(i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens;

(ii) Rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, from January 2021 through January 2025 pertaining to firearms and/or Federal firearms licensees;

(iii) Agencies' plans, orders, and actions regarding the so-called "enhanced regulatory enforcement policy" pertaining to firearms and/or Federal firearms licensees;

(iv) Reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention;

(v) The positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights;

(vi) Agencies' classifications of firearms and ammunition; and

(vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export firearms.
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Disappointed Trump hasn't named an ATF director or taken any substantive actions to date to reel in the out of control agency that shouldn't exist.
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Urban Ag said:

BATFE just needs to be eliminated

Same with the DEA.

It should all fall under the FBI. There should be no walls between fed law enforcement agencies. One roof. The system we have clearly facilitates corruption. waste, and rogue actions.




The system we have is eerily reminiscent of Nazi Germany….police agencies within police agencies within police agencies
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TRADUCTOR said:

'bear arms'
Should be able to arm myself with whatever I want then walk around bearing free and natural like God expects.
techno-ag
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Thanks BMX. Staff shortened it when I posted the full text of the tweet in the OP.
Trump will fix it.
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nortex97 said:

Disappointed Trump hasn't named an ATF director or taken any substantive actions to date to reel in the out of control agency that shouldn't exist.


Give it 72 hrs and we will be all like "what ATF?"
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