Say Goodbye to Hollywood

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AggieUSMC said:

The previous commercials were better. There's something cartoonish and "uncanny valley" about AI generated stuff.


This, AI isn't going to be the replacement, it's going to be just another option. There will be a strong market for the "real" stuff.
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Part of me thinks AI will never quite get it right over live action.

The other part of me thinks that beleiving this is like Molly Ivins being certain that Reagan's "Star Wars" was silly and would never work.
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There are going to be huge legal fights to hash out regarding the often licensed or copyrighted source material that these AI algorithms very often crawl through and use to amalgamate their own compositions.


Yep. The use of Indiana Jones imagery in this one made me think about that as well.
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Mondemonium said:

AggieUSMC said:

The previous commercials were better. There's something cartoonish and "uncanny valley" about AI generated stuff.
The first films were black and white films with no sound. The current stuff is some nerds with a good GPU. Give it a few years.


I go back and forth on this...

Yes, this technology is impressive and going places, but I think it will take longer than some (most?) realize or believe. Self-driving cars were 5 years away like 5 years ago. They're still at least 5 years away. They may very well get here one day, but the initial projections based on the accelerating progress being made at the time were overly optimistic. The problem wasn't entirely understood, and no one really appreciated the fact that it was like a 90/10 problem. They looked at the effort to get where they were and just assumed it would be easy to get to the end.

Kahneman and Tversky laid out a similar problem in Thinking, Fast and Slow, IIRC, where they had been asked to write a textbook with a few others in a group. In initial discussions they'd made a lot of progress, and need on that everyone thought it would go quick when they were asked how long it would take. What they should have done, as they said in retrospect, was look at their group's previous experience with writing textbooks and how long it took others on average, because that's actually how long it took, which was years longer than their hopelessly optimistic estimates based on how things were currently going.


It's the same here. Lots of initial accelerating progress, but pretty soon it's going to hit a wall of not being able to get past some kind of problem or issue that keeps it from commercial viability. 10% of the total effort will have gone into solving 90% of the problem, so everyone looking at it is bound to think that it's just sound the corner, but when you stop and look at it with experience, you realize you're really only 10% of the way there in terms of effort and time.


As for the uncanny valley-ness of a lot of these and the comparison to autotune, that's exactly the problem. These generation algorithms are almost too good in that everything is super smooth and fluid. It feels unnatural because there's none of the randomness or variance of reality. The motion and interpolation produced are overfit or biased (in the technical sense) to an average, whereas in real life there's natural variance and quirkiness to movements. It looks like autotune sounds.

The visuals themselves are also just too smooth. Hair and skin just don't look like that. Even some of the background things looked almost like they were really good realist paintings, but they lake a certain granularity of detail. It's like everything has a Snapchat filter on it.


And none of that has to do with computational power. It's all centered around the algorithms themselves and squeezing out the last 10% of the necessary accuracy, but that's exceedingly difficult.
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Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
Ummm....what type of video were you trying to make?


NSFW

https://instagr.am/p/DFYsTYppgma
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
Ummm....what type of video were you trying to make?


NSFW

https://instagr.am/p/DFYsTYppgma

Bobby the warrior had a bunch of dudes melting into each other.
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Eventually A.I. will replace posters on internet boards like this one. While a bunch of Dem and GOP 'bots' argue with each other over an endless range of topics...real humans will finally be able to get back to a productive existence off the internet spending time with their families, exercising, and adding productive work hours to the economy.
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LOVE IT!!!
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One interesting thing to watch with realistic AI is if someone can create a character and keep it the same across multiple videos with the same voice and mannerisms. Think of a digital James Bond or Thor or Black Widow but a brand new one that'll never die or age. That seems key to real success
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Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
Ummm....what type of video were you trying to make?


It says it right there in his username.
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And yet, we are still at the very earliest stages of this technology. Most are not ready for what is just over the horizon.
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AggieUSMC said:

The previous commercials were better. There's something cartoonish and "uncanny valley" about AI generated stuff.
Amen. We have all AI training at work and it sucks.
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Madman said:

RIP only fans also.

Well now computer nerds will just vacuum up the cash


Great - so young men can get their rocks off to unreal realistic looking women with unrealistic perfect bodies …

the slippery slope of legalized pr0n and sexually explicit businesses is a blight on society that must be addressed in the era of AI.
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aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
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aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
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More ironic that "Jeremy Boreing" sounds like he is on trans hormones. That voice is estrogenic.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Another decade and this stuff will get so good it will be difficult to distinguish from the real thing regarding media, at least in short cuts of it, and at least where it is showing something non-fantastical.

You will eventually need an AI to ensure what you are looking at in court is not also artificial, for example.


We will be there within 1 year; not 10.

The rapid advancement of this is almost hard to fathom.

We are writing 80% of our code with AI right now. Today.
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

aTmAg said:

I wonder what engine they used. I tried to make a video a while back and it had a bunch of dudes melting into each other and crap.
Ummm....what type of video were you trying to make?


It says it right there in his username.


I thought that you never go……there.
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