Bering Air Caravan flight disappears

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Horn_in_Aggieland
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/search-overdue-plane-10-board-alaska-rcna191137

Flight didn't arrive in Nome, Alaska when it was supposed to land about 6 hours ago. 10 people aboard.

Coast Guard and Air Force trying to find the plane.


Waffledynamics
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What the heck is going on with planes lately?
titan
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Probably more attention is all. 10 passenger size is not large; and Alaskan climate very bad for flying with its unpredictable williwaws and other such phenomena.
FobTies
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Bering > Boering > Boeing
titan
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FobTies said:

Bering > Boering > Boeing
No, Bering Sea is a locale up there, and the air line uses it apparently. (You may have been joking)
Ellis Wyatt
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The weather isn't good right now. This is definitely not FAA related. They think it's in the ocean.

There are no Coast Guard stations anywhere close to Nome, but hopefully they're on scene by now. Right now, just a search and rescue team from Nome and one from Unalakleet are trying to find the plane.

In central Texas, it's very hard to relate to the remoteness. There isn't a lot of backup to help. For perspective, the closest Wal-Mart is something like 500 miles away…and you can't drive there.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/jDX5FfOh5Cs?si=H0XBUytw9pvZZM5I

Here's some coverage of the story. There is/was a search plane in the area.

Edit: wrong link
Ellis Wyatt
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Nome is served by Alaska Airlines 737s from Anchorage and Bering Air to all the villages. They used to have ERA Alaska/RAVN, but they went bankrupt, so Bering is their only commercial service. I've flown on it many times.
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This picture was taken a couple of years ago, probably within 10 miles of where the plane went in, also in February. The sea ice today is in sheets, as in the picture, and most likely not solid.

Terrible. No one will survive in that water longer than 15 minutes.


Ellis Wyatt
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https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2025/02/07/report-possible-plane-with-10-onboard-down-near-nome/

Zero visibility.
ts5641
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Not making me feel better about flying on Sunday.
Ellis Wyatt
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This will end up being weather related or just equipment malfunction. Grand Caravans are large single-engine planes.

The crash has still not been located due to weather and location (water). A C-130 was searching last night. I assume CG vessels are en route to assist.
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titan said:

FobTies said:

Bering > Boering > Boeing
No, Bering Sea is a locale up there, and the air line uses it apparently. (You may have been joking)


Oh boy.
JFABNRGR
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Its Alaska….sometimes the planes are never found.

doubledog
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Waffledynamics said:

What the heck is going on with planes lately?
Something about gravity, I think.
agdaddy04
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ts5641 said:

Not making me feel better about flying on Sunday.

Are you flying to Nome?
Ellis Wyatt
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JFABNRGR said:

Its Alaska….sometimes the planes are never found.


I would be shocked if this one is not found, but weather, darkness, and ice will make it difficult. They don't usually fly very high, so unless something catastrophic happened aboard, the plane would likely be fairly intact. I would assume spatial disorientation on this crash, without knowing anything else.

Sun won't come up there today until about 10:30 local time and will go down about 6. And it is 2* presently. It is amazing this doesn't happen more often up there.

**just read that its last transmission was from 3,400 feet.
Rapier108
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Waffledynamics said:

What the heck is going on with planes lately?
Really, nothing out of the ordinary. Accidents and incidents happen. Most do not result in the loss of the aircraft and/or passengers/crew. When one does, it makes the news if it is a commercial passenger aircraft, or the accident is spectacular. General aviation accidents rarely do outside the local area unless some high profile person dies, or it crashes into something other than the ground. And GA accidents happen regularly.

If it wasn't for the crash at DCA and then the Learjet in Philly, few would think much of this one.
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AgBQ-00
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Lots of planes disappear in AK
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DallasAg 94
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Shark attack.
Catag94
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Sad. Bering Air serves lots of small villages in AK especially in the westerns AK like Wright does more interior. I've watched so many of these Caravans come and go in Kotzebue, AK.
Ellis Wyatt
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Catag94 said:

Sad. Bering Air serves lots of small villages in AK especially in the westerns AK like Wright does more interior. I've watched so many of these Caravans come and go in Kotzebue, AK.
It is the only way these folks travel within their region. Crushing to the communities there.
Horn_in_Aggieland
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AgBQ-00 said:

Lots of planes disappear in AK
Is this really true?

A quick search found this but I only see 9 in Alaska since 1907.

List of missing aircraft - Wikipedia

AgBQ-00
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Missing as in crash, go missing, run into trouble regularly. Sorry was not clear in using disappear as a catchall
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Catag94
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

Sad. Bering Air serves lots of small villages in AK especially in the westerns AK like Wright does more interior. I've watched so many of these Caravans come and go in Kotzebue, AK.
It is the only way these folks travel within their region. Crushing to the communities there.


It is certainly the primary way. Alaska Airlines has a couple flights a day to Kotzebue from Anchorage and I've seen school teams on them. But small village to small village, these small caravan type planes are a major way, if not almost the only way to travel efficiently.
Horn_in_Aggieland
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Gotcha! I was starting to wonder where have I been if planes are regularly falling out of the sky in Alaska never to be found like that Malaysian flight.
Ellis Wyatt
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Catag94 said:




It is certainly the primary way. Alaska Airlines has a couple flights a day to Kotzebue from Anchorage and I've seen school teams on them. But small village to small village, these small caravan type planes are a major way, if not almost the only way to travel efficiently.
Yeah, I mean the village travel. In the winter. Almost no one in native villages has personal airplanes. Some villages can snow machine from one to another in the winter, but not all. Nome and Kotz are the "big cities," which is amazing to me.
AG1904
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This is going to end up like the train derailments from several years ago. Everyone got fired up over some conspiracy taking out our trains, and it turns out trains derail all the time, we just never paid attention until the big one in East Palestine in 2023.
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

AgBQ-00 said:

Lots of planes disappear in AK
Is this really true?

A quick search found this but I only see 9 in Alaska since 1907.

List of missing aircraft - Wikipedia



Aviation is a way of live in rural Alaska. It is a necessity as the size and geography of the state makes it not feasible to build roads to every village. I was born at home because the Cessna 172 wouldn't start to fly Mom to the hospital. (dad left it out of the hanger that night and it got too cold to start ) During his time as a bush pilot Dad would fly a group of kids across the river every day to get to/ from school.

Many unscheduled/uncontrolled landings happen every year in Alaska. Most wrecks are located and many are recovered. Very few truly disappear.
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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Kenneth_2003
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The Cessna Caravan uses a de-icing fluid bleed system along the leading edge of the wings. That fluid is then carried by the airflow over the top of the wing to keep it clear and free of ice. This is opposed to an inflatable rubber boot used on other aircraft.

Both systems have advantages and disadvantages.

Makes me wonder if perhaps they ran out of fluid or if perhaps the pump failed, leading to wing icing.
Mega Lops
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Man I hope those folks didn't suffer

Edit: wtf, wrong emoji
Catag94
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What do they use on the prop?
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