Swan Song said:

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TAMU1990 said:

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Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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It has to be done. We were heading for a financial cliff and ruin. How do they not see that? Do they think the deficit and inflation aren't real or believe it's all transitory?

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TBH, I don't think they do think like that. Like time military then Government employees. It's just all they know. Plus, live in a very liberal big city.

It's more about how hard this is on all their coworkers. I get it! I've had to layoff and terminate a ton of people in my career, it's not fun!

They have really convinced themselves that Trump is the devil and this is all his doing.

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IF there're CAREER gov they have thought EVERY conservative was the devil. Water is wet.
My dad was career gov. I was career small business owner. No way we would ever see things the same.

Most CAREER gov types are the killers of dreams and innovation and nothing but a hindrance . We have way too many. Useless parasites losing their jobs can be a good thing. Maybe they will get out in the world and build something instead.

Good article. Thanks for sharing.

Amazing to read that. I have been hoping and praying that Trump has been planning to leap into action on Jan 20 and obviously getting Elon on his team has been huge.

The basic idea of a permanent job, regardless of one's performance, is not comprehensible to a sane person. It is incompatible with production and success of any endeavor.

That applies to government bureaucrats, academic tenure, and even Supreme Court lifetime appointment. These concepts were created by folks who were inherently lazy, or so conceited with their superiority that they were above criticism. In the case of the Supreme Court it was designed to insulate them from corruption. Unfortunately, it doesn't insulate them from their own ideology.

The entire concept is flawed.

Great Awakening.

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AggieAL1 said:

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That's all well and good. But not a shred of it is constitutional. Of course, if the Supreme Court continues to trash the Constitution, illegality may reign.

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Do you even know what is in and what isn't in the constitution?

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Agree, just more liberal garbage and yet another democrat lie. Something they always do.

the greatest shock is that there are ANY PAYMENTS AND PROCESSES to even map!!

the USG computer systems are so old and corrupt and never communicate with each other.

I wonder how in the hell our young coders are figuring all this out on systems that were built in 1989

LMCane said:

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the greatest shock is that there are ANY PAYMENTS AND PROCESSES to even map!!

the USG computer systems are so old and corrupt and never communicate with each other.

I wonder how in the hell our young coders are figuring all this out on systems that were built in 1989

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Probably read a copy of "COBOL for Dummies" on Elon's jet on the way to DC.

Houston Lee said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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That's all well and good. But not a shred of it is constitutional. Of course, if the Supreme Court continues to trash the Constitution, illegality may reign.

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Do you even know what is in and what isn't in the constitution?

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They can't even define what is a woman.

Hard R on that one.

Tailgate88 said:

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LMCane said:

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the greatest shock is that there are ANY PAYMENTS AND PROCESSES to even map!!

the USG computer systems are so old and corrupt and never communicate with each other.

I wonder how in the hell our young coders are figuring all this out on systems that were built in 1989

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Probably read a copy of "COBOL for Dummies" on Elon's jet on the way to DC.

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Whether its COBOL, Python, C, *SQL, etc most data is stored in tables, most with some form of encryption or funky proprietary file format. Resolve the format and its game on. The parent application that managed that data doesn't matter at this point.

ttu_85 said:

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Tailgate88 said:

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LMCane said:

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the greatest shock is that there are ANY PAYMENTS AND PROCESSES to even map!!

the USG computer systems are so old and corrupt and never communicate with each other.

I wonder how in the hell our young coders are figuring all this out on systems that were built in 1989

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Probably read a copy of "COBOL for Dummies" on Elon's jet on the way to DC.

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Whether its COBOL, Python, C, *SQL, etc most data is stored in tables, most with some form of encryption or funky proprietary file format. Resolve the format and its game on. The parent application that managed that data doesn't matter at this point.

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Spot on. I actually programmed in COBOL back in the 80's and the table formats then are similar to my SQL tables today. They just need to read the data and understand the relations and they can suck it into their own tools. Word on the street is they are putting it all into GROK too.

LMCane said:

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the greatest shock is that there are ANY PAYMENTS AND PROCESSES to even map!!

the USG computer systems are so old and corrupt and never communicate with each other.

I wonder how in the hell our young coders are figuring all this out on systems that were built in 1989

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Mentioned it in a thread yesterday - if you can interact with a program via a keyboard, you can build interfaces that can move faster and with more stamina than any user ever could.

The source DB doesn't have to be powerful, it just needs power.

If it crashes from the demand side, you throttle the demand and move on to something else. It's the beauty of automation. You don't have to spend hours in repetiive tasks but if you spend the time to build out the automation process the right way, the first time, then the database is yours. The algorithms can troubleshoot themselves and at this point, re-write their own code to adjust for the antiquated interface.

Though I haven't followed the make up of the team itself, Musk knew what he was looking for because of his time with X/PayPal.

I think it would be perfect irony if all of these chrony politicians revive their love for physical currency because they realize their digital footprints are less obscure today than they have ever been.

Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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Their votes would have cost me my job. Sounds like they are getting a taste of what we face in private sector everyday. Tough but they might need to see it to help them grow.

mjschiller said:

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AggieAL1- You are showing your ignorance regarding the Constitution.

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Had to do it...

Burpelson said:

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Elon and his Muppets have out flanked trump

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lolwut?

angus55 said:

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Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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Their votes would have cost me my job. Sounds like they are getting a taste of what we face in private sector everyday. Tough but they might need to see it to help them grow.

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I'm only stereotyping, so this may not apply -

But if I worked at a company that everyone increasingly was becoming aware didn't offer a valuable product and had been cashflow negative for...centuries?...and also got everyone to buy their product by using the threat of force, I might be worried about my job too.

All that being said, there are government departments and employees that are absolutely essential in their role and purpose. They are legal and transparent in their organization. Their duty and goal is to serve the American people and their shared interests. If your family members work for those departments, they've got nothing to worry about.

Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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I don't take any joy in honest people losing jobs, but the fact is the path we were on wasn't sustainable, and taking a new one is going to hurt a little. There's no way around it.

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If you haven't read this substack, you should. After all we've endured, after all my family sacrifices to fund our government, change is here.

https://open.substack.com/pub/eko/p/override?r=dzrj0&utm_medium=ios

While media focused on campaign rallies and political theater, a quiet army was being assembled. In offices across DC, veteran strategists mapped the administrative state's pressure points. Think tanks developed action plans for every agency. Policy institutes trained rapid deployment teams. Former appointees shared battlefield intelligence from previous administrations' failures.
By Inauguration Day, over 1,000 pre-vetted personnel stood readyeach armed with clear objectives, mapped legal authorities, and direct lines to support networks. This wasn't just staffing; it was a battle plan decades in the making.
"This is the new normal," Vice President JD Vance declared from his West Wing office, studying real-time data flows across agency systems. "He's having the time of his life," he added, referring to the President's relentless drive. "We've done more in two weeks than others did in years."




Across Washington, officials who had weathered every reform since Reagan began quietly updating LinkedIn profiles. A Deputy Director: "Open to opportunities." An Agency Chief: "Exploring new challenges." A Bureau Head: "Time for change."
DOGE's algorithms weren't just programsthey were archaeology tools, excavating decades of buried networks. Each data point connected to another. Each discovery revealed new targets. Each pattern exposed larger systems.
"It's beautiful," one of the coders whispered, watching connections form across his screen. "Like watching a galaxy map itself."

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Love it. Any idea who the author might be and what's his/her source, etc?

I don't know, just started follow the substack.

87IE - I was being kind to him.

mjschiller said:

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87IE - I was being kind to him.

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Yes you were..

I had to cut back my initial response....

"here to stay" Yeah, that's what all political movements say.

Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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Find another dang job. I switched entire industries twice in my career and jobs probably 7 or 8 times. Having a blast with current consulting firm, best one yet.

Not that difficult, just build a network

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Swan Song said:

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I have family members that work in government and they are worried for their jobs. Blame Musk and his cronies. Also quite upset that their family has voted for Trump knowing they may lose their jobs.

It's a tough situation.

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Find another dang job. I switched entire industries twice in my career and jobs probably 7 or 8 times. Having a blast with current consulting firm, best one yet.

Not that difficult, just build a network

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If you eliminated government retirement and healthcare benefits then people would have no problem job hopping out for better opportunities in the private sector as soon as they could secure one. Government jobs need to be made as unattractive as possible so as to keep the sector's employment numbers low.

Trump and Elon are just attacking this from the wrong angle. The pay already bites. Eliminate the only current incentives (the benefits) to stay with the government long term and you've "fixed the glitch". People will leave on their own in droves and you won't even have to pay severance.

AggieAL1 said:

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That's all well and good. But not a shred of it is constitutional. Of course, if the Supreme Court continues to trash the Constitution, illegality may reign.

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Wrong!! The Supreme Court is following the original intent of the constitution.

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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That's all well and good. But not a shred of it is constitutional. Of course, if the Supreme Court continues to trash the Constitution, illegality may reign.

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Everything President Trump and Republicans are doing is constitutional.

Biden and Democrats forcing the vaccine on the public through OSHA, and Biden and Democrats forgiving all cherry picking student loan debt forgiveness is unconstitutional. Biden spent his last days in office helping the worst murderers and rapists in modern US history.

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FIFY...

Meh. I'm for just waiting to see what happens.

Elon gutted twitter and it still seems to work just fine. The crazy left wingers left, but who cares.


Also, just as example. Where in the Constitution is grounds for a federal department of education? While we are talking about what is and what is not constitutional, let's discuss that.

Squadron7 said:

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I wonder how long Elon's Wunderkinds have actually been working on this in advance?

Maybe even before the election itself.

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No doubt they have been preparing software and techniques for a while to hit the ground running. They were probably practicing on existing systems.

Plus they've had Elon's experience with bringing Twitter to its knees.

AggieAL1 said:

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That's all well and good. But not a shred of it is constitutional. Of course, if the Supreme Court continues to trash the Constitution, illegality may reign.

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Stop lying. DOGE is an existing agency (USDS) that has already been approved.

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