Schizophrenia cases linked to heavy cannabis use have tripled.

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In reply to bmks270 • 8:29p, 2/5/25
bmks270 said:
Weed causes schizophrenia in some people.

This has been known for decades but the pot head lobby has been trying to cover it up and debunk it for decades too.

My mom told me this since I was a kid and seems she was right. She worked in mental health and drug addiction as a PA.


Anyone that's been around a proper pot head for a long while has seen this as well.

Watching my buddy over his last couple of years was sad.
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In reply to samurai_science • 8:30p, 2/5/25
Back when I partook, THC levels in MJ were like 1%. Now it's 25-30%. Of course it's a mental health issue.

Safe, free, and effective. LoL
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8:42p, 2/5/25
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
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In reply to Rossticus • 8:47p, 2/5/25
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.


No one here is pretending very heavy alcohol use is healthy.
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In reply to p_bubel • 8:52p, 2/5/25
p_bubel said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.


No one here is pretending very heavy alcohol use is healthy.


Then why does anyone care whether or not cannabis is legal? The the clear point of this post is to make the point that pot is harmful and should therefore not be legal. If current legal consumption of harmful substances is of no concern based on one person's preference then why is another, of no greater impact, an issue? I don't smoke pot but I find the dynamics inherent in the hypocrisy of the matter to be highly interesting.
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In reply to Rossticus • 8:54p, 2/5/25
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
Start a thread then, this is about weed
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In reply to samurai_science • 8:59p, 2/5/25
samurai_science said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
Start a thread then, this is about weed


Alright. I'll frame it this way. Given the other substances that are currently legal, this thread still presents no compelling evidence that pot is comparatively harmful enough to be considered a greater danger. Mind altering substances create negative physical and mental consequences for a subset of users. Shocking.
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In reply to Teslag • 9:00p, 2/5/25
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Teslag said:
AgRyan04 said:
Teslag said:
If you don't want to do partake then don't. Seems easy.


Thats fine....as long as the schizos dont need benefits because they can't hold down a job.


Are all bourbon drinkers unable to hold down jobs? Or just the ones that abuse it?


I work in the recovery community and this argument is a complete non sequitur.
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:02p, 2/5/25
Rossticus said:
p_bubel said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.


No one here is pretending very heavy alcohol use is healthy.


Then why does anyone care whether or not cannabis is legal? The the clear point of this post is to make the point that pot is harmful and should therefore not be legal. If current legal consumption of harmful substances is of no concern based on one person's preference then why is another, of no greater impact, an issue? I don't smoke pot but I find the dynamics inherent in the hypocrisy of the matter to be highly interesting.


Grow up, be an adult, and do coke like everyone else that wants to be edgy.
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:03p, 2/5/25
Rossticus said:
samurai_science said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
Start a thread then, this is about weed


Alright. I'll frame it this way. Given the other substances that are currently legal, this thread still presents no compelling evidence that pot is comparatively harmful enough to be considered a greater danger. Mind altering substances create negative physical and mental consequences for a subset of users. Shocking.
Agreed, just don't make me pay for the aftermath and we have a deal.
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In reply to p_bubel • 9:06p, 2/5/25
p_bubel said:
Rossticus said:
p_bubel said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.


No one here is pretending very heavy alcohol use is healthy.


Then why does anyone care whether or not cannabis is legal? The the clear point of this post is to make the point that pot is harmful and should therefore not be legal. If current legal consumption of harmful substances is of no concern based on one person's preference then why is another, of no greater impact, an issue? I don't smoke pot but I find the dynamics inherent in the hypocrisy of the matter to be highly interesting.


Grow up, be an adult, and do coke like everyone else that wants to be edgy.


Wouldn't half mind the legal ability to just grow and use natural coca leaves as a natural stimulant. Coke is too dirty these days.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 9:06p, 2/5/25
Tom Fox said:
Rossticus said:
samurai_science said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
Start a thread then, this is about weed


Alright. I'll frame it this way. Given the other substances that are currently legal, this thread still presents no compelling evidence that pot is comparatively harmful enough to be considered a greater danger. Mind altering substances create negative physical and mental consequences for a subset of users. Shocking.
Agreed, just don't make me pay for the aftermath and we have a deal.


Society should never be on the hook for other peoples' poor decisions.
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In reply to TexAgsSean • 9:08p, 2/5/25
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TexAgsSean said:
Maybe this is why you shouldn't legalize-it…
but the pot-heads told us it just makes you hungry and there are no side effects....
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In reply to agracer • 9:10p, 2/5/25
agracer said:
TexAgsSean said:
Maybe this is why you shouldn't legalize-it…
but the pot-heads told us it just makes you hungry and there are no side effects....


Hungry… and maybe a little crazy. No biggie.
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In reply to TexAgsSean • 9:16p, 2/5/25
TexAgsSean said:
Maybe this is why you shouldn't legalize-it…


Or maybe you allow people to make their own decisions and stop being a nanny ass.

That aside, modern day weed is 100% addictive. But so is the alcohol most on this website consume to excess. So is nicotine.

Save me from your desire to control what others do with their lives. We don't need you to protect us.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
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In reply to General Jack D. Ripper • 9:31p, 2/5/25
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General Jack D. Ripper said:
TexAgsSean said:
Maybe this is why you shouldn't legalize-it…


Or maybe you allow people to make their own decisions and stop being a nanny ass.

That aside, modern day weed is 100% addictive. But so is the alcohol most on this website consume to excess. So is nicotine.

Save me from your desire to control what others do with their lives. We don't need you to protect us.


Or maybe you should TexAgs a little harder and understand that this was a joke regarding the poster Legalize-It-Ags, and his current situation.

Sounds like it might be you that's the nanny ass.

Whatever the hell that means.
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9:40p, 2/5/25
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But I thought pot was supposed to be a cure for schizophrenia, just like everything else.


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11:19p, 2/5/25
What did the scientists identify as the actual chemical mechanism of action by which THC caused the schizophrenia in their study?

Without a defined mechanism, this statistical correlation is not medical science and is a statistical narrative as valid as all the other sociology statistics that have been used for political reasons, such as "trans kids commit suicide in higher numbers, therefore it's because they're forced to live in the wrong body, therefore we need to give them hormones and surgeries to make them happy".

Nobody with any critical thinking skills should find it alarming that people with a tendency toward mental instability are more likely to seek out drugs, and then apply their mental instability to the frequency and dosage with which they use those drugs.
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11:36p, 2/5/25
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In reply to Rossticus • 12:33a, 2/6/25
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Rossticus said:
p_bubel said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
No one here is pretending very heavy alcohol use is healthy.
Then why does anyone care whether or not cannabis is legal? The the clear point of this post is to make the point that pot is harmful and should therefore not be legal. If current legal consumption of harmful substances is of no concern based on one person's preference then why is another, of no greater impact, an issue? I don't smoke pot but I find the dynamics inherent in the hypocrisy of the matter to be highly interesting.
What???

If you didn't mean the post you were replying to, and instead meant the original OP, he stated no opinion on legalization, one way or the other. Simply posted about a study.

You a little paranoid (*****zo)?
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2:18a, 2/6/25
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No comment from grape soda? Looks like we are going to need a wellness check. Maybe he forgot his password?
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In reply to TexAgsSean • 6:27a, 2/6/25
How in the world was anyone to get that reference?
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
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In reply to Aglaw97 • 6:29a, 2/6/25
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Aglaw97 said:
Teslag said:
AgRyan04 said:
Teslag said:
If you don't want to do partake then don't. Seems easy.


Thats fine....as long as the schizos dont need benefits because they can't hold down a job.


Are all bourbon drinkers unable to hold down jobs? Or just the ones that abuse it?


I work in the recovery community and this argument is a complete non sequitur.


And this is a hand wave
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In reply to samurai_science • 6:32a, 2/6/25
samurai_science said:
Very interesting, I wonder what other problems this causes? Thoughts?

he PARF for CUD associated with schizophrenia almost tripled from 3.7% (95% CI, 2.7%-4.7%) during the prelegalization period to 10.3% (95% CI, 8.9%-11.7%) during the legalization period


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829840



This isn't surprising when you think about how Schizophrenia works. Add in easy access and it's no different than when they turned 21 and could buy alcohol.

I'm just glad they're not trying to say the use of the drug makes people Schizophrenic.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to General Jack D. Ripper • 6:33a, 2/6/25
General Jack D. Ripper said:
How in the world was anyone to get that reference?


It was only the biggest thing happening on the site yesterday
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6:39a, 2/6/25
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I'm guessing cirrhosis of the liver skyrocketed when prohibition ended, too.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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In reply to General Jack D. Ripper • 6:45a, 2/6/25
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General Jack D. Ripper said:
How in the world was anyone to get that reference?


By reading TexAgs harder.

I also put 2/3 of his username in the post and used the winky face.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 7:08a, 2/6/25
Tom Fox said:
You remove my responsibility to support someone with my tax dollars then they can do whatever they want to themselves. Until then ...

I agree with you except for the "until then" part. That justification can be used for all kinds of assaults on freedom. Tax dollars shouldn't be taken from one person to support another for any reason whatsoever. But just because we stupidly do that very thing, does NOT mean we should start throwing away freedoms. It's the same argument as gun control….some people abuse guns and others get hurt, so therefore we should ban them. If we started banning every little thing that causes some negative outcomes, I don't think anyone would like where this leads.

It is pure hypocrisy to support the legality of alcohol and the illegal status of marijuana at the same time. Alcohol abuse causes vastly more harm than the other and it's not even comparable.
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In reply to Teslag • 7:16a, 2/6/25
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Teslag said:
AgRyan04 said:
Teslag said:
If you don't want to do partake then don't. Seems easy.


Thats fine....as long as the schizos dont need benefits because they can't hold down a job.


Are all bourbon drinkers unable to hold down jobs? Or just the ones that abuse it?
Damn...You just incinerated that strawman.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 7:16a, 2/6/25
Tom Fox said:
Teslag said:
AgRyan04 said:
Teslag said:
If you don't want to do partake then don't. Seems easy.


Thats fine....as long as the schizos dont need benefits because they can't hold down a job.


Are all bourbon drinkers unable to hold down jobs? Or just the ones that abuse it?
You remove my responsibility to support someone with my tax dollars then they can do whatever they want to themselves. Until then ...
This. And raise the consequences for anyone that causes harm to another. Not quite eye for an eye, but if people want to roll the dice with feel good but potentially harmful goods/actions then the consequences are raised to compensate.
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In reply to B-1 83 • 7:18a, 2/6/25
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B-1 83 said:
I'm guessing cirrhosis of the liver skyrocketed when prohibition ended, too.
Nope...because nobody actually stopped drinking. Kennedy's made sure of that.
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7:37a, 2/6/25
Cannabis use is the common factor in ALL mass shootings.

Daniel Penny knows the cannabis induced psychosis is a problem.
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In reply to torrid • 7:40a, 2/6/25
torrid said:
But I thought pot was supposed to be a cure for schizophrenia, just like everything else.




Uh, I detect a yuge problem with your filter bubble
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 7:42a, 2/6/25
DallasAg 94 said:
Then keep your windows closed (and on recirc) when you smoke.

Wash yourself before going into a restaurant...

So I don't have to smell it.
Who cares what you think? If I go into a business smelling like grass... what anyone thinks about me is none of my business.

So stay outta my business.

Besides, dining at Jack in the Box? C'mon, man.
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In reply to samurai_science • 7:44a, 2/6/25
samurai_science said:
Rossticus said:
Now cry about the physical and mental health impacts of heavy alcohol usage, which is perfectly legal. Crickets? Gtfo. lol.
Start a thread then, this is about weed
A drug is a drug is a drug.

Nation of idiots alright.
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