Boots on the ground?

Stonegateag85 said:

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Devil's advocate: say trump follow through with exactly what he said. What happens when the dems eventually come back into office? Abandon Gaza, back to the Palestinians and we start this whole mess over again?

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That's why you need the Arab buy-in from neighboring countries. They have skin in the game, even Dems in the WH won't make that much difference.

I agree with a few others here - i think this is a terrible idea however i believe this is nothing more than a starting point for others to deal with and negotiate. I don't see it happening but i do see a deal in the future that will keep us out and secure the territory.

No.

I think Trump is just saying this for some other goal, he doesn't mean we will do it.

Israel capitulated for years, pulling back from the Gaza Strip to let the Palestinian locusts take over, and it (as expected) never did a damn thing good for peace.

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I agree with a few others here - i think this is a terrible idea however i believe this is nothing more than a starting point for others to deal with and negotiate. I don't see it happening but i do see a deal in the future that will keep us out and secure the territory.

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Sort of a "IF y'all don't figure this out we are going to come in and turn it into DisneyMecca. So hurry hurry hurry the clock is ticking!"

Trump Hotel Gaza Resort & Casino.


F it. I'm down. Let's do it.

Edit: Also - is there any good scuba there? Red Sea diving is on my bucket list. Maybe I can stay at The Trump Hotel Gaza.

I'll have to admit, I am kind of curious what "The Gaza Strip" Club is like.

What's fishing like in the Med? Anybody with experience?

pagerman @ work said:

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.

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Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.

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I don't think they mind the U.S. spending money there at all, but them not wanting the U.S. to have land over there takes priority over any financial considerations. With Trump, you never know if he is bluffing or being serious, thus it forces them to the negotiating table and they will end up paying for the project if they want to be certain to keep the U.S. out.

My working assumption is the neighboring countries don't want those mongrels either.

Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

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I'll have to admit, I am kind of curious what "The Gaza Strip" Club is like.

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It's hard to tell.

a $10 tip will get you some ankle showing for 2 minutes.

Stonegateag85 said:

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My working assumption is the neighboring countries don't want those mongrels either.

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That seems to be the prevailing sentiment. So guess that is motivation for them to be involved in rebuilding Gaza and providing a group security force.

If you mensas honestly think Trump is actually going to send troops to Gaza, you are missing the points.
Trump is putting on a clinic on how to troll the left. Be it taking over Gaza which is a brilliant troll, to what is currently going on with Musk and DOGE. The left and the media have been caught flatfooted. They are eating their own. They can't keep up with the winning.
All you leftist and CM's should be ashamed that you wanted this man put in jail for the rest of his life. He is a true patriot and yes he does belong on Mount Rushmore.

Musk is the modern day Ben Franklin, Thomas Edison, and DeVinci all wrapped up in one.

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Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

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I'll have to admit, I am kind of curious what "The Gaza Strip" Club is like.

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It's hard to tell.

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2-1-3 maybe. At least the glitter won't be a problem.

Stonegateag85 said:

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My working assumption is the neighboring countries don't want those mongrels either.

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Egypt already said they won't take them last week.

pagerman @ work said:

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Stonegateag85 said:

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My working assumption is the neighboring countries don't want those mongrels either.

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Egypt already said they won't take them last week.

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Tariffs incoming on Egypt in 3, 2, 1....

GeorgiAg said:

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Trump Hotel Gaza Resort & Casino.


F it. I'm down. Let's do it.

Edit: Also - is there any good scuba there? Red Sea diving is on my bucket list. Maybe I can stay at The Trump Hotel Gaza.

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Great question! From a quick AI query the answer is maybe? I couldn't find much on youtube, one from 2020.

Rocky reefs visual survey dive in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

There is limited information available about scuba diving sites specifically near Gaza. However, the Red Sea region, which is relatively close to Gaza, offers excellent diving opportunities.

While not directly in Gaza, some notable diving locations in the broader area include:

1. Eilat, Israel: Located on the Gulf of Aqaba, Eilat is known for its excellent diving conditions[2]. It offers sites suitable for divers of all levels, with water temperatures ranging from 19C to 29C and visibility often exceeding 40 meters[2].

2. Red Sea: The Red Sea, which is in proximity to Gaza, is renowned for its diving opportunities. Countries like Egypt and Jordan offer popular diving destinations in the Red Sea[6].

It's worth noting that diving activities in Gaza itself may be limited due to various factors. A local diver, Ramy Miqdad, has been documented exploring Gaza waters and sharing photos of marine life on social media, suggesting there is some underwater beauty to be found in the area[7]. However, organized scuba diving activities or established dive sites in Gaza are not well-documented in the provided search results.

For those interested in diving in the region, it would be advisable to explore options in nearby areas with established diving infrastructure, such as Eilat or other Red Sea destinations, while being mindful of current travel restrictions and safety considerations.

Citations:
[1] https://www.alexinwanderland.com/a-guide-to-diving-in-israel-red-sea-dead-sea-mediterranean-sea-diving/
[2] https://diveadvisor.com/israel
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1glv96i/scuba_dive_trips_in_eilat/
[4] https://www.ndtv.com/travel/10-of-the-best-scuba-diving-destinations-in-the-world-you-cant-miss-6610530
[5] https://www.padi.com/diving-in/palestinian-territory/
[6] https://www.girlsthatscuba.com/red-sea-diving-trio-jordan-israel-egypt-which-comes-out-on-top/
[7] https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/2325151/gaza-diver-relays-beauty-local-marine-life
[8] https://www.middleeasteye.net/features/leap-faith-miracle-diver-gaza

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Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share

Cool. As I said, I'm down. No American Troops - maybe deploy the undocumented immigrants?

Did it escalate terrorism when the Allies forced 15 million ethnic Germans east of the Oder-Neisse Line to relocate? No, we just made the Germans suck it up and take the loss, and most people today don't even know that the expulsions ever happened.

It can be the same with Gaza. Glad to have a President finally proposing a final solution to the jihadist problem.

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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Agreed. This is going to be a massive campaign to get the world on board with the plan for resettlement of Gazans. What Trump's ultimate goal here is of course a mystery. Taking over Gaza? Doubtful. Resettling Gazans? Maybe. Forcing Gazans to come to terms more favorable to Israel and the US? Probably.

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More Trump hotels?

pagerman @ work said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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aggiehawg said:

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.

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Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.

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If Trump is going t move the Palestinians out, he will have to move them somewhere. Do you think that these other countries want to take the Palestinians?

Besides, they probably get far more mileage out of the Palestinian "plight" than from anything else. If they want to solve the issue, it is more likely by removing the Jews from Israel.

There is no upside to any Arab country to this if they end up having to accept the Palestinians into their country. All that would accomplish is to destabilize their own country. The Palestinians are the ultimate victims wherever they go -- they are the visitors who won't leave.

aggiehawg said:

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Stonegateag85 said:

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Devil's advocate: say trump follow through with exactly what he said. What happens when the dems eventually come back into office? Abandon Gaza, back to the Palestinians and we start this whole mess over again?

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That's why you need the Arab buy-in from neighboring countries. They have skin in the game, even Dems in the WH won't make that much difference.

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Do you really think that they want a couple of million of fifth rate rabble rousing twits moving in to destabilize their country? That would be about the stupidest move they could make.

Ag87H2O said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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aggiehawg said:

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.

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Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.

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I don't think they mind the U.S. spending money there at all, but them not wanting the U.S. to have land over there takes priority over any financial considerations. With Trump, you never know if he is bluffing or being serious, thus it forces them to the negotiating table and they will end up paying for the project if they want to be certain to keep the U.S. out.

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Why should they negotiate? Their best chance is to refuse to negotiate to let in a bunch of low grade losers who would only destabilize their own countries.

eric76 said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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aggiehawg said:

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.

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Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.

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If Trump is going t move the Palestinians out, he will have to move them somewhere. Do you think that these other countries want to take the Palestinians?

Besides, they probably get far more mileage out of the Palestinian "plight" than from anything else. If they want to solve the issue, it is more likely by removing the Jews from Israel.

There is no upside to any Arab country to this if they end up having to accept the Palestinians into their country. All that would accomplish is to destabilize their own country. The Palestinians are the ultimate victims wherever they go -- they are the visitors who won't leave.

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These countries don't have to take the "relocated" Palestinians, and Trump can't make them.

He can incent them to do so by bribing them, but that is simply more money being spent by the US on foreign aid, which Trump is allegedly going to stop.

pagerman @ work said:

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Stonegateag85 said:

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My working assumption is the neighboring countries don't want those mongrels either.

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Egypt already said they won't take them last week.

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Don't forget that Hamas started in Egypt. The last thing they would want is to bring those violent losers back to Egypt.

pagerman @ work said:

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eric76 said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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aggiehawg said:

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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.

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I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.

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I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.

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Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.

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If Trump is going t move the Palestinians out, he will have to move them somewhere. Do you think that these other countries want to take the Palestinians?

Besides, they probably get far more mileage out of the Palestinian "plight" than from anything else. If they want to solve the issue, it is more likely by removing the Jews from Israel.

There is no upside to any Arab country to this if they end up having to accept the Palestinians into their country. All that would accomplish is to destabilize their own country. The Palestinians are the ultimate victims wherever they go -- they are the visitors who won't leave.

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These countries don't have to take the "relocated" Palestinians, and Trump can't make them.

He can incent them to do so by bribing them, but that is simply more money being spent by the US on foreign aid, which Trump is allegedly going to stop.

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Yes. How much of our money does Trump want to give them to import terrorism and destabilizing unrest into their countries?

Trump's been moving at warp speed for two weeks now. This is the first one that doesn't make sense for America. It might make sense for Israel, but not for us. At the end of the day, the Muslims will continue to stand alongside other Muslims, regardless.

Have you ever had relatives that you may talk with from time to time, but there is no way in hell that you would ever want them to move in with you?

eric76 said:

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Have you ever had relatives that you may talk with from time to time, but there is no way in hell that you would ever want them to move in with you?

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You mean all of them?

HGTV shows gonna hit so hard when we take over Gaza.

“This week on Fixer Upper, Chip and Joanna head to Rafah.” pic.twitter.com/kea9fXDiEn

— Prison Mitch (@MidnightMitch) February 5, 2025

as opposed to the always ungrateful Palestinians who have taken LITERALLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM AMERICAN TAXPAYERS and repay us by launching rape and murder campaigns..

this is how grateful Israelis view POTUS Trump:

שלטי החוצות היום באיילון. מדינת ישראל מודה לנשיא טראמפ🙏🏼🇺🇸🇮🇱 pic.twitter.com/FXjvayPZd8

— Libby Blanca Alon לבי בלנקה אלון (@libby_alon) February 5, 2025

SEC. RUBIO: "What President Trump announced yesterday is the offer, the willingness of the United States to become responsible for the reconstruction of [Gaza]...It was not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as a very generous move." pic.twitter.com/ss9rfsrwOK

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 5, 2025