Trump wants to occupy Gaza Strip

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6:28a, 2/5/25
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I'm in wait-and-see mode…

Maybe this IS the plan…or maybe it's the start of a negotiation with the rest of the ME…

The man has had 4 years to stew over everything he thinks is wrong with America and the world, and he has been moving at lightning speed to implement his agenda…

And some of that has been making bold statements/demands and the negotiating a deal that backs off yet still gets what he wants…

Right now, I don't think he is off his rocker…I think there's more to it…we will have to wait and see…

I've read "The Art of the Deal"…he's sticking to it very closely this time around…at least for now…

And what for him off track last time…maybe DOGE defunding all of the well-funded anti-Trump influences will by him the time for his message to win and keep him focused on winning his agenda here and abroad…

We shall see…
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6:38a, 2/5/25
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In reply to FireAg • 6:40a, 2/5/25
FireAg said:
Dan Scott said:
He said in the press conference is the move the Palestinians the currently to another land and the U.S. would occupy Palestine and develop it.

That's going to stir things up

He said rebuild it and then welcome them back…


That sounds more like something Trump would say.
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6:47a, 2/5/25
This is the equivalent of telling a man you are going to come over and mow his overgrown grass…in front of his wife and kids. He will get it done on his own pretty quickly after that.
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7:07a, 2/5/25
No. The Palestinians wanted to be bombed back to the stone age. Our task is too keep the grown up weapons away from them.
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7:10a, 2/5/25
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Sounds like a great way to invite another 9/11.
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7:14a, 2/5/25
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People with good jobs and a livelihood are less likely to buddy up to the false promises offered by Hamas and Company.

Just a thought.
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7:16a, 2/5/25
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This is Trump. He tosses out big, often unconventional ideas and asks really why they can't be done, and considers the responses. Sometimes the idea has serious problems and isn't worthwhile and he doesn't pursue it.

Other times, it ends up being plausible and with some net positive value and he might go for it even if it was previously dismissed as unworkable.
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7:20a, 2/5/25
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It's a great deal for Israel. Iran can just point their rockets at us instead.
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7:26a, 2/5/25
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7:46a, 2/5/25
I love Trump, but I don't want to spend tax dollars in Gaza. Maybe he can get Iran to pay for it.
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In reply to fc2112 • 7:51a, 2/5/25
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Contrast that to Hamas's vision...

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In reply to Dan Scott • 7:52a, 2/5/25
The best thing that can ever happen to 3rd world ****holes is the US taking over and occupying. We'll do more for that society than they've done for themselves in 100 years.
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In reply to ts5641 • 7:56a, 2/5/25
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ts5641 said:
The best thing that can ever happen to 3rd world ****holes is the US taking over and occupying. We'll do more for that society than they've done for themselves in 100 years.
Careful there. Not all administrations assist 3rd worlders nicely. The Democrats want to steal the funds, and indoctrinate and sexually mutilate children.
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8:02a, 2/5/25
Are the folks in North Carolina who lost their homes in the floods "refugees" in the United States?

No.

Then why are "Palestinians" in "Palestine" considered refugees

while simultaneously claiming they can't be moved out of "their land"?!



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8:03a, 2/5/25
I've been thinking the same thing. The whole ME will not want the US anywhere over there. Probably not even Israel. So by Trump saying the US will move in and make it ours, he is forcing the ME to come to some form of agreement on what will happen in Gaza... to keep the US away.

ETA: This may have already been put forth, but I didn't read the whole thread.

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8:05a, 2/5/25
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I'm thinking that we see a consortium of ME countries and us step in to manage Gaza, which would make sense to me because everyone would have a vested interest in keeping the riff raff out. Build it up like Dubai as a destination.

I can see it working but Israel is going to have to give up something for that security IMO.

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In reply to will25u • 8:15a, 2/5/25
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That's my gut feeling as well…he's forcing them to all play nice so as to keep the US out…
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In reply to Cepe • 8:17a, 2/5/25
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Just not paying Israel to defend itself over and over again will be worth it. If they would actually turn it around and start investing and putting money in building up versus defense, It would be huge.
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In reply to Jeeper79 • 8:19a, 2/5/25
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Sounds like a great way to invite another 9/11.
Are you claiming the Palestinians will blow up buildings in the USA

because Trump wants to build them beautiful neighborhoods?!

sounds illogical!
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8:38a, 2/5/25
Hamas responding exactly as we would expect

from terrorists who raped, murdered, pillaged, shot down 70 dogs, burned babies to death, took elderly and children hostage...



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9:25a, 2/5/25
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Trump supporters since 2020:
"We have to stop regime change/nation building! It's not our business and wastes money we don't have!"

"We must end "forever wars" and get out of the foreign entanglement game!"

"We are going to stop foreign aid! Let the world take care of themselves, it's not our problem!"

"The US needs to focus on development at home! It's not our problem to help foreign countries!"

Trump, 15 days into his second term:
"We're going to take over Gaza, forcibly remove the people that live there, then rebuild and develop it. And if necessary we will send the US military in to secure it!"

Trump supporters:
"It's brilliant! Best idea ever! It will bring peace to the middle east! THIS time we will do nation building right! What could possibly go wrong?!"

This is the single dumbest foreign policy idea ever proposed.

Even if you ignore the obvious and substantial question of where Trump derives any authority at all to take over a sovereign territory, forcibly remove its residents, annex it and subsequently spend the tens of billions of dollars (at least) to try to turn Gaza into Arab Vegas, there are mountains of other huge problems that come along with this terrible idea.

And it is hysterical to watch the same people that made all the above claims and touted how Trump was going to fix all of these problems suddenly toss all that aside in the dead sprint to support Trump at all costs, even when he is proposing something that diametrically opposes all the reasons they supported him in the first place.

Smart people can have dumb ideas. It doesn't make them stupid. It just means they had a dumb idea. Not supporting a dumb idea is not somehow turning your back on Trump. It is simply not supporting a stupid idea because it is stupid, not because of who had it.
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9:33a, 2/5/25
The U.S. will always have Israel as an ally in the region, but there is no way in hell we are going to occupy territory there in any meaningful way. The whole region was Great Britain's disaster from the beginning, just as Vietnam was France's disaster. I think America is tired of foreign interventions, and this would be a massive increase in that direction.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 9:38a, 2/5/25
Dan Scott said:
He said in the press conference is the move the Palestinians the currently to another land and the U.S. would occupy Palestine and develop it.

That's going to stir things up
It's jaw dropping how many times you have been wrong.

Seriously I have to know, why do you hate your country so much??
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In reply to LMCane • 9:40a, 2/5/25
Being Hamas is a crime against humanity.
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In reply to pagerman @ work • 9:40a, 2/5/25
pagerman @ work said:
Trump supporters since 2020:
"We have to stop regime change/nation building! It's not our business and wastes money we don't have!"

"We must end "forever wars" and get out of the foreign entanglement game!"

"We are going to stop foreign aid! Let the world take care of themselves, it's not our problem!"

"The US needs to focus on development at home! It's not our problem to help foreign countries!"

Trump, 15 days into his second term:
"We're going to take over Gaza, forcibly remove the people that live there, then rebuild and develop it. And if necessary we will send the US military in to secure it!"

Trump supporters:
"It's brilliant! Best idea ever! It will bring peace to the middle east! THIS time we will do nation building right! What could possibly go wrong?!"

This is the single dumbest foreign policy idea ever proposed.

Even if you ignore the obvious and substantial question of where Trump derives any authority at all to take over a sovereign territory, forcibly remove its residents, annex it and subsequently spend the tens of billions of dollars (at least) to try to turn Gaza into Arab Vegas, there are mountains of other huge problems that come along with this terrible idea.

And it is hysterical to watch the same people that made all the above claims and touted how Trump was going to fix all of these problems suddenly toss all that aside in the dead sprint to support Trump at all costs, even when he is proposing something that diametrically opposes all the reasons they supported him in the first place.

Smart people can have dumb ideas. It doesn't make them stupid. It just means they had a dumb idea. Not supporting a dumb idea is not somehow turning your back on Trump. It is simply not supporting a stupid idea because it is stupid, not because of who had it.
The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
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In reply to pagerman @ work • 9:41a, 2/5/25
Ultimately where I'm at but I'm gonna let trump cook. If it's a failure, then I will criticize him.
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In reply to 93MarineHorn • 9:42a, 2/5/25
93MarineHorn said:
pagerman @ work said:
Trump supporters since 2020:
"We have to stop regime change/nation building! It's not our business and wastes money we don't have!"

"We must end "forever wars" and get out of the foreign entanglement game!"

"We are going to stop foreign aid! Let the world take care of themselves, it's not our problem!"

"The US needs to focus on development at home! It's not our problem to help foreign countries!"

Trump, 15 days into his second term:
"We're going to take over Gaza, forcibly remove the people that live there, then rebuild and develop it. And if necessary we will send the US military in to secure it!"

Trump supporters:
"It's brilliant! Best idea ever! It will bring peace to the middle east! THIS time we will do nation building right! What could possibly go wrong?!"

This is the single dumbest foreign policy idea ever proposed.

Even if you ignore the obvious and substantial question of where Trump derives any authority at all to take over a sovereign territory, forcibly remove its residents, annex it and subsequently spend the tens of billions of dollars (at least) to try to turn Gaza into Arab Vegas, there are mountains of other huge problems that come along with this terrible idea.

And it is hysterical to watch the same people that made all the above claims and touted how Trump was going to fix all of these problems suddenly toss all that aside in the dead sprint to support Trump at all costs, even when he is proposing something that diametrically opposes all the reasons they supported him in the first place.

Smart people can have dumb ideas. It doesn't make them stupid. It just means they had a dumb idea. Not supporting a dumb idea is not somehow turning your back on Trump. It is simply not supporting a stupid idea because it is stupid, not because of who had it.
The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
forced resettlement

the terrorists are not going to leave willingly
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In reply to 93MarineHorn • 9:52a, 2/5/25
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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.
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9:55a, 2/5/25
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Could be an awesome vacation destination, AI seems to agree with me.

I apologize, but I am not able to generate, create, edit, manipulate or produce images. I can only perceive and analyze existing images. I cannot generate a hypothetical picture of Gaza rebuilt by Trump.

Instead, I can describe what such a hypothetical rebuilt Gaza might look like based on Trump's statements:

Trump envisions transforming Gaza into "the Riviera of the Middle East"[1][4]. This would likely involve extensive redevelopment of the coastal area, potentially including luxury hotels, resorts, and beaches catering to international tourists. The plan would involve clearing existing structures, leveling the land, and constructing new buildings and infrastructure[5]. Trump mentioned creating "unlimited numbers of jobs and housing"[4], suggesting a mix of residential and commercial development. The rebuilt Gaza in Trump's vision would likely feature modern architecture, wide boulevards, parks, and amenities designed to attract visitors and businesses from around the world.

However, it's important to note that this plan is highly controversial and faces significant opposition from Palestinians, Arab states, and the international community[3][6]. The proposed forced relocation of Gaza's population raises serious ethical and legal concerns.

Citations:
[1] https://www.foxnews.com/world/history-gaza-amid-trumps-plan-rebuild-enclave
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/us/politics/trump-gaza-netanyahu-takeover.html
[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gw89x8x11o
[4] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/trump-says-us-will-take-over-and-own-gaza-in-redevelopment-plan
[5] https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/inside-donald-trumps-plan-to-make-gaza-beautiful-again-and-legal-hurdles-to-it-7638157
[6] https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/nx-s1-5287576/trump-gaza-takeover
[7] https://responsiblestatecraft.org/trump-gaza-own/
[8] https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-palestine-netanyahu-gaza-israel-b2692241.html
[9] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/world-reaction-to-trumps-comments-on-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza
[10] https://nypost.com/2025/02/04/us-news/trump-thinks-gaza-will-be-demolition-site-for-up-to-15-years-and-that-its-best-for-residents-to-leave-officials/
[11] https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-netanyahu-gaza-cabinet-tariffs-02-05-25/index.html

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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:59a, 2/5/25
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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.
Agreed. This is going to be a massive campaign to get the world on board with the plan for resettlement of Gazans. What Trump's ultimate goal here is of course a mystery. Taking over Gaza? Doubtful. Resettling Gazans? Maybe. Forcing Gazans to come to terms more favorable to Israel and the US? Probably.
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10:03a, 2/5/25
Devil's advocate: say trump follow through with exactly what he said. What happens when the dems eventually come back into office? Abandon Gaza, back to the Palestinians and we start this whole mess over again?
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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.
I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.
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Ag87H2O said:
aggiehawg said:
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The look on Bibi's face gave it away. Trump is not serious about taking over Gaza the same way he was not serious about taking over the Panama Canal. He is throwing this out to get people to start thinking about resettling Gazans because the last 70 years has been a disaster. He's throwing it out to let Gazans know he is 100% in Israel's corner and they need to come to terms with the new reality that much of the world has had enough of their bs. He's trying to make them feel isolated and overwhelmed.
I am slowing my roll on what to make of Trump's suggestion about rebuilding Gaza.

On Halperin's show this morning, Sean mentioned several ME leaders are going to see Trump in the next few weeks, Al Sisi is coming next week, for instance. Plus Trump is trying to get back the Abraham Accords with the Saudis.

Get the Egyptians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians together with the Israelis to clean up Gaza? Using sovereign wealth funds? Is that a piece of the puzzle here?

There's a lot of moving parts that I am not seeing, yet. Need some more details. There is a method to the madness, I suspect.
I think this is likely what it is. None of those countries wants the U.S. to have land in the Middle East, so the idea Trump floated will force them to work together to prevent it from happening. And they will pay for the rebuild as part of the remedy.

But - with Trump you never know. He might be serious. The uncertainty is what gives him such a strong position in negotiating deals.
Why would those nations oppose the US spending its money cleaning up Gaza? They don't give a crap about the Palestinians and they have no reason to want to involve themselves in a boondoggle with no upside to them.
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In reply to Boomer#85 • 10:14a, 2/5/25
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My bad Boomer. Trump said "take over" not occupy. I didn't realize those 2 words mean completely different things and occupy is a triggering word.
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