Fins Up! said:

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Most farm workers are H2A, so that means they are legal.

I'm not buying that mass deportations are going to disrupt agriculture.

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Even if true that "most" are legal and I will be incredibly charitable and grant you that 7 out 10 are

if 70% of farm Workers are legal and 30% Arent & that 30% if workforce stops showing up most operations will not function well ( if at all ) with that many people not showing up

Meat packing plants are another location that without illegal alien employees showing up every day they can't function smoothly
Meat processing plants is staffed strictly with guys with bogus id's and because we like cheaper meat and hate unions nobody is interested in shutting those places down. If also helps many of them are located in "red" America

Your hypothetical 30% can also be replaced in a few days. There's still plenty of illegals to choose from.

Fins Up! said:

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Most farm workers are H2A, so that means they are legal.

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Not true.

In fiscal year 2024, 378,513 H-2A positions were certified, equal to 17% of the total agricultural workforce.
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/debunking-h-2a-myths

HumbleAg04 said:

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We had fruit before Dems let 30 million illegals in.

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Picked by legal labor?

Artimus Gordon said:

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So none of these "farm workers" had seasonal work visas? Besides, what are they paying these Hiden Biden illegals?

Maybe they should have thought of the possibility of this happening. somewhere around November 6th.
Farmers in CA don't seem to be any smarter than their elected officials. I guess that's why they call it La La Land.

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Yep, picking fruit during the day and stealing and killing at night. Obviously not all of them, but a high enough percentage to be a real problem for our citizens.

jagvocate said:

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We need to jail the employers who hire illegal aliens. A few well-publicized biz owners in cuffs will stop this nationwide, with the quickness.

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Add in civil forfeiture of all business and personal assets for hiring illegals.

I am perfectly fine with targeting employers violating the law.

But if we are going to do that, we need to remove government from the market to stop interfering with wages and worker availability.

End entitlements and the minimum wage. The fruit will get picked at whatever wage the market dictates.

MAGA might need to be changed to Make America mow their own lawn again.

Maybe we need a temporary visa program. They get their visa, work for some months and go back. If they don't they are blacklisted.

jagvocate said:

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We need to jail the employers who hire illegal aliens. A few well-publicized biz owners in cuffs will stop this nationwide, with the quickness.

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This.

Illegals can't work if Americans don't hire them.

ETA: If Trump actually goes after the Americans who hire illegals, then we'll know he's doing everything he can to get rid of the problem, roots and all. I truly hope he does that. It's about time the entire chain of people involved in this problem are held accountable.

infinity ag said:

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Maybe we need a temporary visa program. They get their visa, work for some months and go back. If they don't they are blacklisted.

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That's exactly what GWB and my industry advocated for prior to 9/11. Obviously the world changed that day.

Seasonal work program absolutely makes sense. There are plenty of Mexican nationals who don't really care to live here full time. I don't expect those are really the people we care about in this instance, but they are going to be caught in the middle until we can figure out an actual solution.

1. This is awesome

2. Oh ****, I hope my cleaning lady Consuela shows up today

Ciboag96 said:

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1. This is awesome

2. Oh ****, I hope my cleaning lady Consuela shows up today

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"Learn to mop" should be our new rallying cry.

HumbleAg04 said:

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We had fruit before Dems let 30 million illegals in.

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We'll still have fruit. It will just cost more. I'm ok with that.

Sq 17 said:

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Fins Up! said:

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Most farm workers are H2A, so that means they are legal.

I'm not buying that mass deportations are going to disrupt agriculture.

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Even if true that "most" are legal and I will be incredibly charitable and grant you that 7 out 10 are

if 70% of farm Workers are legal and 30% Arent & that 30% if workforce stops showing up most operations will not function well ( if at all ) with that many people not showing up

Meat packing plants are another location that without illegal alien employees showing up every day they can't function smoothly
Meat processing plants is staffed strictly with guys with bogus id's and because we like cheaper meat and hate unions nobody is interested in shutting those places down. If also helps many of them are located in "red" America

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Where is this "cheaper meat" of which you speak?

ak451ag said:

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HumbleAg04 said:

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We had fruit before Dems let 30 million illegals in.

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Picked by illegal in labor?

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Fify

Cheaper as in not as expensive
Union meat packers cost more money as employees
El Salvadorans with bogus IDs are cheaper

agaberto said:

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A surprising immigration raid in Kern County foreshadows what awaits farmworkers and businesses

https://newrepublic.com/post/190555/donald-trump-immigration-deportations-farm-workers

A good start.

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Really, New Republic, I haven't seen that old commie, 1960's vintage hippy rag quoted in forever. The fact that you did tells me all I need to know