*****TRUMP EXECUTIVE ORDERS*****

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Who?mikejones! said:


Burn it down baby!
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I just got back from lunch.
Took my wife out as today is 25 years since we first met.

Any new fun EOs in the time I've been away?
Donald ma maan juss keeps em comin'
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infinity ag said:

I just got back from lunch.
Took my wife out as today is 25 years since we first met.

Any new fun EOs in the time I've been away?
Donald ma maan juss keeps em comin'


Bye bye FEMA
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Whatever happened with them not going to houses that had Trump flags/signs?
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Whatever happened with them not going to houses that had Trump flags/signs?
the FEMA employee was fired
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Whatever happened with them not going to houses that had Trump flags/signs?


https://www.carolinajournal.com/fired-fema-official-alleges-wnc-homes-with-trump-signs-avoided-after-helene/
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aggiehawg said:



This is eye opening. Not in a good way.


Seems like we could cut the federal workforce by 94% and not miss a beat.
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Cen-Tex said:

MsDoubleD81 said:

Whatever happened with them not going to houses that had Trump flags/signs?
the FEMA employee was fired
For spilling the beans about it...not for not going to the houses of Trump supporters.
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Thanks.
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FTAG 2000 said:

aggiehawg said:



This is eye opening. Not in a good way.


Seems like we could cut the federal workforce by 94% and not miss a beat.

WTF??? 94%?? How is that even possible? Knowing the Govt, I know most of them don't even work unless there is someone to watch. Private sector has a better chance as you will get fired.

How can this be 94%?Just think about the cost savings.
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I was absolutely livid but you are correct, it's made him a far better President this time in just 5 days.
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Memorandum for the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (Trump EO Tracker)

Jan 25, 2025

This Memorandum revokes the Presidential Memorandum of January 28, 2021, "Protecting Women's Health at Home and Abroad,"

and reinstates the Presidential Memorandum of January 23, 2017, "The Mexico City Policy." It directs the Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, to implement a plan to make certain that foreign organizations receiving global health funding from any departments or agencies of the United States do not provide or promote abortion with any sources of funding.

In addition, to the extent permitted by law, the Memorandum directs the Secretary of State to ensure that U.S. taxpayer dollars do not fund organizations or programs that support or participate in the provision of coercive abortion or involuntary sterilization.
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Trump Executive Order Tracker

Temporary Pause of Agency Grant, Loan, and Other Financial Assistance Programs
Jan 29, 2025

This memorandum institutes a temporary pause on all federal financial assistance, effective January 28, 2025, at 5:00 PM.

It further requires all agencies to conduct a review of every federal financial assistance program and related activity concerning their compliance with the President's existing orders and policies.

Medicare and Social Security are excluded, and OMB may grant exceptions on a case-by-case basis. Programs identified by agencies and determined by the Office and Management and Budget (OMB) not to be contrary to the President's EOs as well as federal funding for the Medicaid and SNAP programs will ...

Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation (Trump EO Tracker)
Jan 25, 2025

The Executive Order announces that the United States "will not fund, sponsor, promote, assist, or support the so-called 'transition' of a child from one sex to another and will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these procedures.

The order directs all agencies to rescind and amend all policies that rely on guidance from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). The order makes additional directives to the heads of executive departments and agencies, such as the Secretary of HHS, to take immediate actions to prevent the "chemical and surgical mutilation of children."

The order also directs the Director of the Office of Personnel Management to include provisions in the Federal Employee Health Benefits and Postal Service Health Benefits programs exc...
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one safe place said:

Fat Black Swan said:


Should be all of them, regardless of the size of the endowments.


Rome wasn't built in a day. Got to start somewheres.
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one safe place said:

backintexas2013 said:

Cut all social programs for able bodied adults under retirement age that will increase the labor markets.
They should audit those on social security disability. Execute the first 100 they find that are not disabled, spread the word and give those on social security disability 48 hours to request being removed from disability or suffer the same fate. Go sit in a social security office and I would bet half to two-thirds of the people in there are under 50 years old.


Why not just do an audit of every city in the US, and nuke the US cities from orbit that are over a certain threshold of fraudulent claims. Would motivate entire cities to find and cut out the rot.

I was going to recommend cutting SS completely, but that would be a massive over reaction.
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it's been barely over a week

What this man has accomplished is close to unbelievable!

I'm Gipper
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Who?mikejones! said:

No, I will disagree with you here. Despite it's political machinations, it's an American company. We should go hard after something like the EU who is actively trying to curtail our American rights by coming down on a company like Google.

We can simultaneously pressure them to be less ****ty and advocate for America abroad.


Google wants to destroy American capitalism and replace it with a technocracy. Jeffery Dalmer was a US citizen, and he deserved his day in court, but that doesn't mean he was an American.

Google is, despite their early efforts, evil.
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infinity ag said:

Many of us were sad Trump lost in 2020 but it was probably the best thing to happen. He had time to think about success, defeats and strategy for how to do things better.

I believe he will be a very good President now.


Not sure that the good juice from a 2024 Trump presidency was worth the squeeze of a 4 year Biden presidency.
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I agree with you that it's a bad company. But, we need to address that in house using our own laws and legal actions.

What we do not need is a place like the eu attempting to curtail American companies, especially tech/speech companies, based on their very flawed opinion of free speech. That's what Europe is trying to do- suppressing american free speech trough their own draconian regulation. Its not dissimilar to California setting vehicle standards much more restrictive than the federal govt thereby pressuring the auto manufacturers to meet their standards.

And, as previously stated, the eu is funding their own bureaucracy through massive fines on our companies. **** that.
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Who?mikejones! said:

I agree with you that it's a bad company. But, we need to address that in house using our own laws and legal actions.

What we do not need is a place like the eu attempting to curtail American companies, especially tech/speech companies, based on their very flawed opinion of free speech. That's what Europe is trying to do- suppressing american free speech trough their own draconian regulation. Its not dissimilar to California setting vehicle standards much more restrictive than the federal govt thereby pressuring the auto manufacturers to meet their standards.

And, as previously stated, the eu is funding their own bureaucracy through massive fines on our companies. **** that.


I have a problem with EU trying to regulate American speech on American soil. I'm ok with the EU regulating EU speech by an American company. Not my business. Not every country can be as great as America.

I'm also OK with the EU regulating the EU economy. If the same laws are applied to all competitors equally, including US and EU companies, not my business.

If Google doesn't want to pay the EU fines, follow EU laws, or pull out of the EU.

And, Google has been a very bad actor when it comes to consumer privacy. That is what they are paying for in the EU. That, and their anti-competitive behavior related to their app store.
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LMCane said:

Trump Executive Order Tracker

Temporary Pause of Agency Grant, Loan, and Other Financial Assistance Programs
Jan 29, 2025

This memorandum institutes a temporary pause on all federal financial assistance, effective January 28, 2025, at 5:00 PM.

It further requires all agencies to conduct a review of every federal financial assistance program and related activity concerning their compliance with the President's existing orders and policies.

Medicare and Social Security are excluded, and OMB may grant exceptions on a case-by-case basis. Programs identified by agencies and determined by the Office and Management and Budget (OMB) not to be contrary to the President's EOs as well as federal funding for the Medicaid and SNAP programs will ...

Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation (Trump EO Tracker)
Jan 25, 2025

The Executive Order announces that the United States "will not fund, sponsor, promote, assist, or support the so-called 'transition' of a child from one sex to another and will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these procedures.

The order directs all agencies to rescind and amend all policies that rely on guidance from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). The order makes additional directives to the heads of executive departments and agencies, such as the Secretary of HHS, to take immediate actions to prevent the "chemical and surgical mutilation of children."

The order also directs the Director of the Office of Personnel Management to include provisions in the Federal Employee Health Benefits and Postal Service Health Benefits programs exc...
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Trump about to sign Laken Riley Act
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will25u said:



should this help in the long term

also the BITCOIN trust fund or whatever was in the earlier Executive Order?
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BusterAg said:

Who?mikejones! said:

No, I will disagree with you here. Despite it's political machinations, it's an American company. We should go hard after something like the EU who is actively trying to curtail our American rights by coming down on a company like Google.

We can simultaneously pressure them to be less ****ty and advocate for America abroad.


Google wants to destroy American capitalism and replace it with a technocracy. Jeffery Dalmer was a US citizen, and he deserved his day in court, but that doesn't mean he was an American.

Google is, despite their early efforts, evil.


I saw this pop up and it relates to our conversation



It is vitally important that Trump protects our tech companies from European totalitarianism. They are doing everything they can to silence us Americans and remove the ability for free speech. Just as California tries tonight our auto standards at home, the euros are attempting tonsubverybour forst amendment through onerous laws that will make it very difficult for companies like x or Google to operate.
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I think there is going to be some folks in Europe following whats going on here with DOGE and they are going to start digging deep into their own *****...they are still going to need their own Trump, Musk, Milei.
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Bro, the eu just passed/is about to pass a law where the eu can overturn elections of sovereign eu nations if the eu disagrees with the result.


We're learning just how far gone our govt is. The euros might be too far gone.
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Who?mikejones! said:

BusterAg said:

Who?mikejones! said:

No, I will disagree with you here. Despite it's political machinations, it's an American company. We should go hard after something like the EU who is actively trying to curtail our American rights by coming down on a company like Google.

We can simultaneously pressure them to be less ****ty and advocate for America abroad.


Google wants to destroy American capitalism and replace it with a technocracy. Jeffery Dalmer was a US citizen, and he deserved his day in court, but that doesn't mean he was an American.

Google is, despite their early efforts, evil.


I saw this pop up and it relates to our conversation



It is vitally important that Trump protects our tech companies from European totalitarianism. They are doing everything they can to silence us Americans and remove the ability for free speech. Just as California tries tonight our auto standards at home, the euros are attempting tonsubverybour forst amendment through onerous laws that will make it very difficult for companies like x or Google to operate.
1) EU forces Google to censor EU traffic
2) ????
3) Google censors American speech??

How in the world are EU countries silencing US speech? That is quite a leap. You do realize that most of the internet traffic in Germany is in.....German, right? It's not like American "free speech" and German "free speech" are manufactured in the same "free speech plant". Your comparison to gasoline is silly.

I could care less if Google went bankrupt tomorrow. I could care less if their business model of selling you and your data as the product goes away tomorrow.

This whole train of "thought" is silly.

p.s. I like what you did there, trying to put Google and X in the same boat. They are not.
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Quote:

DOGE - A Lawyer's Perspective on the
@elonmusk

@realDonaldTrump
Policy Centerpiece

I inherently do not trust the media so I decided to look into DOGE myself and see what is under the hood. Initially I was quite concerned about the legality of a "new agency" created by executive order but that - just like everything else - is a lie put out by the mainstream. The order is here and the thread is below:

To understand anything the government does it's usually best to start with the law or something else I might be able to sue over… in this case the executive order itself was the thing to see.

As you can see this document is barely 2 pages and certainly not written in legalise. While not a complicated read - the plan was brilliant. Trump did NOT actually create a new agency. Instead what he did was repurpose an existing agency - the USDS - into something more useful.

The USDS was an Obamacare office created to make government software better. They were essentially software development for the bureaucracy. Trump renamed the United States Digital Service (USDS) the United States DOGE Service which even kept the acronym the same. Not only did repurposing an appropriate existing department allow Trump to ensure there was funding for DOGE without having to fight with Congress - he also ensured its legality.

You see Trump has power to set priorities for Executive branch departments but there are limits. In the case of DOGE, Trump clearly had a team of lawyers looking at ways to accomplish this goal legally.

USDS was already there and funded for the specific purpose. 44 USCS Chapter 36 is the law that facilitates much of USDS. It is generally about developing tech for the government. This means that focusing on efficiency and evaluating the entire government through the lens of the IT that runs it is not really substantially altering the agency - just its focus.

At the same time Trump also wanted to bring in
@elonmusk
(and at the time
@VivekGRamaswamy
) and his team for an initial major audit/clean sweep. To do this Trump referenced another law 5 USC 3161. This law governs the creation of and staffing for what is known as a "temporary organization" in the government. This group will focus on pushing the DOGE agenda and will exist for 18 months (though their work will survive). By including this group as temporary, Trump dodged several potential lawsuits as he may not have been able to create his own new administrative entity on a permanent basis without Congressional approval.

Trump also ordered that DOGE teams be hired in every administrative branch agency. These teams are to include a team lead, a lawyer, an HR person, and an engineer. These teams work for USDS (DOGE) but work with and within various agencies. While all this is part of a "software modernization initiative," looking at the software and how things are managed is a great way to find out where there is waste - particularly when part of the mandate it to ensure efficiency.

The last part of the post is all important boilerplate. Trump orders all agencies to support the DOGE initiative, disclaims any other prior EOs that could interfere with this order, and makes a conflict of laws statement. This was further insulation to make this harder for political opponents to fight in court.

Last point. I don't like that this has to be done and think the executive branch has far more authority than they should. That said, this order was very well done and Trump and Musk have really done a good job strategically here. Here's to hoping these guys follow through on the MAGA/MAHA mandate that we the people have given and do everything possible to ensure the American people have the best future imaginable for our kids.
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will25u said:




Quote:

DOGE - A Lawyer's Perspective on the
@elonmusk

@realDonaldTrump
Policy Centerpiece

I inherently do not trust the media so I decided to look into DOGE myself and see what is under the hood. Initially I was quite concerned about the legality of a "new agency" created by executive order but that - just like everything else - is a lie put out by the mainstream. The order is here and the thread is below:

To understand anything the government does it's usually best to start with the law or something else I might be able to sue over… in this case the executive order itself was the thing to see.

As you can see this document is barely 2 pages and certainly not written in legalise. While not a complicated read - the plan was brilliant. Trump did NOT actually create a new agency. Instead what he did was repurpose an existing agency - the USDS - into something more useful.

The USDS was an Obamacare office created to make government software better. They were essentially software development for the bureaucracy. Trump renamed the United States Digital Service (USDS) the United States DOGE Service which even kept the acronym the same. Not only did repurposing an appropriate existing department allow Trump to ensure there was funding for DOGE without having to fight with Congress - he also ensured its legality.

You see Trump has power to set priorities for Executive branch departments but there are limits. In the case of DOGE, Trump clearly had a team of lawyers looking at ways to accomplish this goal legally.

USDS was already there and funded for the specific purpose. 44 USCS Chapter 36 is the law that facilitates much of USDS. It is generally about developing tech for the government. This means that focusing on efficiency and evaluating the entire government through the lens of the IT that runs it is not really substantially altering the agency - just its focus.

At the same time Trump also wanted to bring in
@elonmusk
(and at the time
@VivekGRamaswamy
) and his team for an initial major audit/clean sweep. To do this Trump referenced another law 5 USC 3161. This law governs the creation of and staffing for what is known as a "temporary organization" in the government. This group will focus on pushing the DOGE agenda and will exist for 18 months (though their work will survive). By including this group as temporary, Trump dodged several potential lawsuits as he may not have been able to create his own new administrative entity on a permanent basis without Congressional approval.

Trump also ordered that DOGE teams be hired in every administrative branch agency. These teams are to include a team lead, a lawyer, an HR person, and an engineer. These teams work for USDS (DOGE) but work with and within various agencies. While all this is part of a "software modernization initiative," looking at the software and how things are managed is a great way to find out where there is waste - particularly when part of the mandate it to ensure efficiency.

The last part of the post is all important boilerplate. Trump orders all agencies to support the DOGE initiative, disclaims any other prior EOs that could interfere with this order, and makes a conflict of laws statement. This was further insulation to make this harder for political opponents to fight in court.

Last point. I don't like that this has to be done and think the executive branch has far more authority than they should. That said, this order was very well done and Trump and Musk have really done a good job strategically here. Here's to hoping these guys follow through on the MAGA/MAHA mandate that we the people have given and do everything possible to ensure the American people have the best future imaginable for our kids.




For those concerned that trump can't make the right hires…time to drop that narrative for good.
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Should have been day 1. But I would rather him get it right, and able to withstand lawfare than half baked on day 1.

 
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