When will A&M stop this?

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Ellis Wyatt
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Wow! Look at all these other university presidents "thumbing their nose at the law." It's almost as if they know something that you don't!
Whatever excuse you use to defend racism will not fly with me.
Anonymous Source
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ttu_85 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

This is about a university ignoring the law.
Exemptions are carved out for recruiting events, which is what this was. This conference, as a result of those exemptions, did not violate SB 17. If you don't like that, direct your ire at Abbott, not Welsh. He's the one that signed it as written.
The university was knowingly thumbing their nose at the law. They happened to get caught.
Except this event is exempt from the law, since it's a recruiting event. But do carry on.
Ah so in your jacked up, contradictory, left-wing world this is okay 'cause "Its a recruiting event." Hey lets "carry on" justifying racism as long as it pushes an agenda forward.
No, it's OK because it's how the law...which apparently you have not read...is written.
Sounds like a loophole to be closed with extreme prejudice. Anyone with a brain knows this was reverse discrimination in reality and in fact. And here you are dancing around saying its the law when its nothing but a loop hole.

Its racism shut it down.
Contact the Governor's Office. He signed it that way.
Gig 'Em
Anonymous Source
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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Wow! Look at all these other university presidents "thumbing their nose at the law." It's almost as if they know something that you don't!
Whatever excuse you use to defend racism will not fly with me.
It's amazing to me that you can pull your pud over this all day long without apparently having read it.
This isn't my excuse. It's how the thing was written.

And it won't fly with you? Gosh...whatever am I to do?
Gig 'Em
1836er
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Whether or not Welsh knew about this particular conference beforehand is largely beside the point.

He should have spent the last year+ sending clear messages/directives to every program in the TAMU system to put the kibosh on anything DEI related, and that the continuance of stuff like this is unacceptable and grounds for dismissal.

If he had done so, more (not all) of it would be nipped in the bud already.
Vance in '28
Dr. Perry Cox
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agent-maroon said:

Dr. Perry Cox said:

I don't understand the backlash toward Welsh when he stopped this within hours of discovering it. The faculty and faculty administrators promoting the conference should be held accountable. To think that Welsh endorsed or approved A&M's involved in this conference is ridiculous and shows a clear ignorance of how things work on a large college campus. The Office of General Council does NOT report to the President of A&M, they report to the Texas A&M System/Chancellor.

Abbott unnecessarily blew this up before knowing any of the facts. Welsh clearly took the time to ask some questions before pulling the plug on this, in a matter of hours I should point out. The story should be about how Welsh stopped this like a mature decisive leader, not how the guy in the capital called him out on social media.
Disagree. The last thing that should should have happened was to handle this quietly. The best thing that could have happened was to have a very public embarrassing of every last individual involved. Hoping heads will roll so that any other DEI proponents will cease their activities for fear of losing their jobs.
Abbott could have said that TAMU would take care of this immediately. If Abbott just couldn't control himself he could have even thrown in "or I will".

How do you expect anyone to want the job of A&M President if this is how they are judged for making the right decision (but just didn't word the communication the way I want him to)? My gosh. This board is showing its ignorance on both leadership and on higher education administration.
Red Fishing Ag93
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1836er said:

Whether or not Welsh knew about this particular conference beforehand is largely beside the point.

He should have spent the last year+ sending clear messages/directives to every program in the TAMU system to put the kibosh on anything DEI related, and that the continuance of stuff like this is unacceptable and grounds for dismissal.

If he had done so, more (not all) of it would be nipped in the bud already.
How do we know he didn't?

I'm giving Welsh some credit for this.
gbaby23
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A&M is a captured diploma mill and it would take basically destroying the university as it currently stands to fix it.
1836er
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1) It makes it less likely that any future TAMU presidential candidate that is inclined to allow DEI to remain stealthily embedded into college programs will even apply for the job. That is a good thing, IMO, as it helps somewhat to limit future candidates to only those in line with the Governor's (and the voters of the state of Texas) stance on DEI.

2) In addition, the entire administrative status quo in higher education, which is woefully corrupt and entirely beholden to woke cultural marxism, needs to be deconstructed anyway. The fewer people who are currently employed in academic administration remaining employed in academic administration... the better.
Vance in '28
halfastros81
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The answer to OP's question, when we ring out all the DEI people out of decision making positions.
txags92
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gbaby23 said:

A&M is a captured diploma mill and it would take basically destroying the university as it currently stands to fix it.
Your terms are acceptable if it means we root out every last vestige of DEI discrimination in the process.
zgolfz85
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imagine being in any of these high ranking academic roles and gambling your career on something so blatantly wrong. These people are ****ing morons
agent-maroon
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This board is showing its ignorance on both leadership and on higher education administration.
I see higher education leaders/administrators either unaware or indifferent to the participation of A&M students/professors/whomever in a clearly racist DEI conference. Pardon me if I wait to assess subtleties in any public messages until after the DEI cancer has been completely removed from the university. Again, if it's an overreaction that causes enough pain to rid A&M of this blatant White/Asian racism then I'm all for it.
Tookieclothespin
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CatD11Ag said:


I'm very late to the party, but this guy is bad news (as are, I'm sure, most leadership involved). He's a local leader in his church and I have it on good authority he pushes woke things there too. So I doubt his gushing statement to the committee was just so he could get the job, he probably does believe it.

Libs just can't help themselves when they get into powerful positions.

None of these guys are going to get in trouble beyond a slap on the wrist. The best we can hope for is that as leaders phase out, we get less wokies, but we all know that's never going to happen.
Iraq2xVeteran
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As an Asian American, I am disappointed but not surprised that Texas A&M excluded Asians from a trip to DEI conference. Asian Americans were essentially slaves building the railroads and then massively discriminated against during World War II. There were just as many restrictions against them as there were against African Americans. The difference is they never played the victim mentality broadly. I am Asian American, and I am appalled how the progressives never realize that their regular use of diversity penalizes Asian American children for their academic achievements. Asian Americans follow the success sequence of finishing at least high school, getting a full-time job, and getting married before having children better than any other ethnic group. Because out of wedlock births rarely crosses their minds, Asians lead the country in college education, income, and marriage success rates.

Backyard Gator
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

As an Asian American, I am disappointed but not surprised that Texas A&M excluded Asians from a trip to DEI conference. Asian Americans were essentially slaves building the railroads and then massively discriminated against during World War II. There were just as many restrictions against them as there were against African Americans. The difference is they never played the victim mentality broadly. I am Asian American, and I am appalled how the progressives never realize that their regular use of diversity penalizes Asian American children for their academic achievements. Asian Americans follow the success sequence of finishing at least high school, getting a full-time job, and getting married before having children better than any other ethnic group. Because out of wedlock births rarely crosses their minds, Asians lead the country in college education, income, and marriage success rates.
Because 'minority' is often defined as 'under-represented at the college level', Asians have never been considered minorities. For their percentage of the population, they are over-represented at the college level, which means they're free to be discriminated against.

FWIW, the study on mortgage lending done in the '90s that was used to create the Community Re-investment Act (CREA) that fueled the subprime mortgage crisis found that Asians are the most credit-worthy borrowers, and have the highest approval rating for mortgages. Media and activists use that study to claim blacks and Hispanics were discriminated against in favor of whites, but no one claimed whites were victims of discrimination in favor of Asians, because claiming whites are the victims of discrimination simply isn't believable.

Just some random trivia.
Backyard Gator
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CatD11Ag said:


How do we get him fired, too?
rgvag11
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

Asian Americans were essentially slaves building the railroads and then massively discriminated against during World War II. There were just as many restrictions against them as there were against African Americans. The difference is they never played the victim mentality broadly.



That difference is hardly the reason the two groups have faired differently.

Just as many restrictions during WWIi? Sure, maybe more due to the Japs being our enemy. Throughout US history? Definitely not.

Asians in the USA, as a whole, did not have their culture stripped from them as a part of a legalized, generational slave system. Asian Americans still have deep ties to their culture, which was taken away from African Americans. Asian Americans still get a whole lot of support from their Asian cultures abroad.
Tookieclothespin
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It's not going to happen.

https://texasscorecard.com/state/am-business-school-dean-historically-supports-dei-and-esg/

This says to contact the regents with concerns but i doubt they care what the plebs think.

Even though I disagree with the conference and think Sharp has expressed stupid views, I don't think this is a fireable offense because they performed the CYA move of contacting the OGC (even if they were wrong).
 
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