CDUB98 said:

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Fuentes is not a good guy. Nobody should be defending him.

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Dude is one of the biggest tools on the Internet, but doxxing is a scourge.

Sea Speed said:

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Rapier108 said:

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captkirk said:

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Sea Speed said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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It seems kind of insensitive that he's calling the guy a killer. The guy didn't kill him at all.

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He killed three people and two dogs you dolt

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Someone above said this was all fake. Just like a pizza delivery guy, I guess, if he had just killed some people.

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The triple homicide happened, but Nick Fuentes doesn't seem to be involved other than maybe the guy, while running from the cops, tried to get into his house to hide.

Here is the real story.

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BERWYN, Ill. A suspect in a triple homicide in Central Illinois in was shot and killed late Wednesday night by police in Berwyn after authorities said he broke into a home and fatally shot two dogs.

Just before 11:40 p.m., Berwyn police responded to a report of a male with a gun in the 1800 block of Home Avenue.

Officers located the man, identified Thursday afternoon as John Lyons, 24, of Westchester, but he ran off. Lyons then forced entry into a home in the 1800 block of Wenonah Avenue and shot two dogs to death, according to police.

The resident of the home and owner of the dogs, Scott Wishecoby, said he found Lyons in his basement.

"When I turned on the light the guy was standing at the end of the basement and just started shooting. He shot, shot, shot. I blocked my son and I told him to get upstairs and get his mother and get out of the house. He ran. He was fast, and by the time I was running he was chasing me through the basement shooting," Wishecoby told WGN.

His wife and son got out of the house and ran to a neighbors. Officers later saw Lyons head eastbound into a yard back in the 1800 block of Home Avenue and proceeded to shoot at officers, according to police. They returned fire and fatally shot him.

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https://wgntv.com/western-suburbs/downstate-triple-homicide-suspect-shot-killed-by-police-in-berwyn/

The now dead killer was not targeting Fuentes and the OP's claim is fake news.

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There is literally video of him knocking on nicks door, pistol in hand, crossbow next to him, saying HEY NICK.

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So he took time, while running from the cops chasing him, to stop at Nick's house and call him by name.

Either it is two separate people, or the guy the cops was chasing wanted to kill a lot of people and was just going down a list. The former seems far more likely than the latter.

You Fuentes defenders need to take a very long look in the mirror.

Sea Speed said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Fuentes is not a good guy. Nobody should be defending him.

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Dude is one of the biggest tools on the Internet, but doxxing is a scourge.

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No one is supporting doxxing people.

One can say that is wrong without putting Fuentes on a pedestal.

Occam's razor says a guy brandishing a gun trying to get in to a house means to do harm.

You will also find no instance of me putting that tool on a pedestal.

CDUB98 said:

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Fuentes is not a good guy. Nobody should be defending him.

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They why is nobody providing links to his supposed nazism?

I don't know who this guy is, but I do know that leftists have been calling every single Trump supporter a Nazi for 8 years. So you guys are going to have to back yourselves up.

Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

aTmAg said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

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He is staunchly anti Jewish. He is part Mexican and many of his supporters are not white. He is not a Nazi because 99% of people these days don't even know what the words they use mean, but he is definitely anti Jewish.

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aTmAg said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

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He is staunchly anti Jewish. He is part Mexican and many of his supporters are not white. He is not a Nazi because 99% of people these days don't even know what the words they use mean, but he is definitely anti Jewish.

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Can you provide a link of him saying something anti-Jewish on video?

And I mean something like "all jews are bad" not mere decrying the fact that so many jews vote democrat or something tame like that.

I enjoy his takes, even if so don't agree with all of it.

Yea, this guy definitely just wanted to hide out. Definitely.

To the media which is currently attempting to sweep up the assassination attempt against me here is further evidence:

The killer drove 2.5 hours directly to my house where he parked, then attempting to gain entry to my home in the front & back for 10 minutes until police arrived pic.twitter.com/9R4ZALYt90

— Nicholas J. Fuentes (@NickJFuentes) December 20, 2024

Lots of people here that aren't familiar with Nick Fuentes. And it's not the people that aren't trying to defend him or play whataboutism.

The guy is not a good guy. Doxxing is bad, attempted murder for speech (or almost any other reason) is bad, but don't pretend that this guy hasn't been inviting conflict for years now.

aTmAg said:

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aTmAg said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

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He is staunchly anti Jewish. He is part Mexican and many of his supporters are not white. He is not a Nazi because 99% of people these days don't even know what the words they use mean, but he is definitely anti Jewish.

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Can you provide a link of him saying something anti-Jewish on video?

And I mean something like "all jews are bad" not mere decrying the fact that so many jews vote democrat or something tame like that.

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Fuentes, 25, often praises Adolf Hitler and questions whether the Holocaust happened. He has called for a "holy war" against Jews and compared the 6 million killed by the Nazis to cookies being baked in an oven. He wants the U.S. government under authoritarian, "Catholic Taliban rule," and has been vocal about his disdain for women, Muslims, the LGBTQ+ community and others.

"All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory," Fuentes said last year.

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Source is liberal, but I have seen him say those things and many other similar things.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/10/nick-fuentes-texas-meeting/

Not sure about Nazi, but I can see why people refer to him as a white supremacist/nationalist. Also has said he wants to marry a 16 yr old because that is when the milk is good, or something like that. Nothing justifies physically harming him, but this kid has been asking for it for years.

aTmAg said:

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gbaby23 said:

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aTmAg said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

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He is staunchly anti Jewish. He is part Mexican and many of his supporters are not white. He is not a Nazi because 99% of people these days don't even know what the words they use mean, but he is definitely anti Jewish.

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Can you provide a link of him saying something anti-Jewish on video?

And I mean something like "all jews are bad" not mere decrying the fact that so many jews vote democrat or something tame like that.

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Troll or not, he espouses beliefs of a political party that many of our fathers and grandfathers fought against first hand. The guy can piss up a rope.

Here's Nick Fuentes denying that the Holocaust happened.

Him and his followers are scum of the earth and their bad faith, anti-Semitic attacks should be shot down by the entire conservative movement. pic.twitter.com/7wJ9S7Q6zv

— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) October 30, 2019

Nick Fuentes is not even bothering to hide his adoration of Hitler these days: "'Hitler was a pedophile and kind of a pagan.' It's like, well, he was also really fucking cool. ... This guy's awesome, this guy's cool." pic.twitter.com/B6NFCF2eML

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 17, 2023

After admitting he once kissed a girl in high school, the Groypers in Nick Fuentes' superchat taunted him for being a "fakecel." He got defensive, invoked Hitler, & insisted that he doesn't want a relationship: "All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory." pic.twitter.com/lsM8A5z4eH

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 7, 2022

Here is an unrelated comment from him last month:




Sorry for the crazy bat**** lady playing the ukulele, couldn't find a direct source for the video.

Trump assassination attempt x 2
UHC CEO assassinated.
Fuentes attempted assassination.

Getting crazy out there.

Dude would be a card carrying SS trooper if he had the opportunity

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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aTmAg said:

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gbaby23 said:

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aTmAg said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Probably because you can easily Google it yourself.

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You are making the claim, not me.

I'm not interested in liberal characterizations of him (which is what Google will give me). I'm interested of actual video/audio with context of him saying nazi things.

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He is staunchly anti Jewish. He is part Mexican and many of his supporters are not white. He is not a Nazi because 99% of people these days don't even know what the words they use mean, but he is definitely anti Jewish.

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Can you provide a link of him saying something anti-Jewish on video?

And I mean something like "all jews are bad" not mere decrying the fact that so many jews vote democrat or something tame like that.

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Troll or not, he espouses beliefs of a political party that many of our fathers and grandfathers fought against first hand. The guy can piss up a rope.

Here's Nick Fuentes denying that the Holocaust happened.

Him and his followers are scum of the earth and their bad faith, anti-Semitic attacks should be shot down by the entire conservative movement. pic.twitter.com/7wJ9S7Q6zv

— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) October 30, 2019

Nick Fuentes is not even bothering to hide his adoration of Hitler these days: "'Hitler was a pedophile and kind of a pagan.' It's like, well, he was also really fucking cool. ... This guy's awesome, this guy's cool." pic.twitter.com/B6NFCF2eML

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 17, 2023

After admitting he once kissed a girl in high school, the Groypers in Nick Fuentes' superchat taunted him for being a "fakecel." He got defensive, invoked Hitler, & insisted that he doesn't want a relationship: "All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory." pic.twitter.com/lsM8A5z4eH

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 7, 2022

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"But he, he's not LITERALLY a Nazi from the 1940's, so all of you are wrong and I am right!"
-aTmAg

aka

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire

"Our First Amendment freedoms give us the right to think what we like and say what we please" -James Madison, The Father of the US Constitution

"For the people to rule wisely, they must be free to think and speak without fear of reprisal" -James Madison, The Father of the US Constitution

I agree with those statements. Just understand the 1st amendment is purely restricting the govts ability to interfere with our God given right to free speech and thought. It does nothing for you to hold a claim against another citizen attempting to do so.

If this guy would have murdered fuentes, he'd go to jail for murder. There wouldn't be a charge for him violating fuentes' free speech rights.

Who?mikejones! said:

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I agree with those statements. Just understand the 1st amendment is purely restricting the govts ability to interfere with our God given right to free speech and thought. It does nothing for you tonhold a claim against another citizen attempting to do so.

If this guy would have murdered fuentes, he'd go to jail for murder. There wouldn't be a charge for him violating fuentes' free speech rights.

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I don't get why this is so hard for people to understand. Same arguments were made when Alex Jones was getting sued.

It's not really hard these days to find anyone's home address. I wonder why he is angry at someone. The would be assassin could have found it himself.

That's enough for me. Thanks for actually providing a link. If he is trolling, then I'm not going to give him clicks to find out.

Muktheduck said:

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"Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" was always the left's justification for canceling people. This sounds great in your head because you view Fuentes as extreme right; your average lefty thinks there should be consequences for far right opinions like "10 year olds shouldn't be prescribed puberty blockers" and the exact same justification holds.

You either defend the far right's ability for political speech or watch the left come for you next. This is exactly what happened last time around with Trump where Charlottesville was a dry run for J6

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When Budweiser attempted to make Mulvaney their spokesman and people boycotted, was that not the consequences of their actions? When Bud Light called their customer base 'too fratty', and customers responded by not buying their beer, wasn't that inflicting a consequence on them?

When the NBA put 'black lives matter' on their courts and I stopped watching all NBA games, was I 'cancelling' them? Or was I just refusing to watch a marketing ploy that furthered a false narrative?

Reality is both the right and left participate in 'cancel culture', the difference is the right doesn't do it for 'thought crime' like the left.

Saying "You have the face the consequences of your actions" isn't 'cancel culture', it is real life. It also isn't suppression of speech, it is promotion of common sense.

It'll be interesting to see how the goalposts move.

Rapier108 said:

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Nick Fuentes is not some random "Political Youtuber".

Don't make him sound like some innocent victim.

Not that it is right, but when someone goes around sounding like a Nazi, he is going to get a bullseye on their back.

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American citizens doing free speech deserve to be killed in certain circumstances? Interesting

Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Nick Fuentes is not some random "Political Youtuber".

Don't make him sound like some innocent victim.

Not that it is right, but when someone goes around sounding like a Nazi, he is going to get a bullseye on their back.

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American citizens doing free speech deserve to be killed in certain circumstances? Interesting

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Said no one on this thread so quit lying about me.

Rapier108 said:

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Nick Fuentes is not some random "Political Youtuber".

Don't make him sound like some innocent victim.

Not that it is right, but when someone goes around sounding like a Nazi, he is going to get a bullseye on their back.

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American citizens doing free speech deserve to be killed in certain circumstances? Interesting

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Said no one on this thread so quit lying about me.

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"Don't make him sound like an innocent victim" (your words)
What crime did he commit?

Inviting how?

biglebowski said:

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Inviting how?

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Fuentes says antisemitic and racist ****, but hides it behind 'jokes' so he can claim it's humor. He's one of those people who think he's smarter than he is, and unfortunately believes he's smarter than everyone else. The nicest way to describe him is to say he's smarmy and obnoxious.

When you step over the line as often as he does, you're going to catch a beatdown at some point. The unfortunate thing for Fuentes and his 'groypers' is he's a pathetic little person, physically weak and lacks any type of courage.

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

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The first amendment was not created for popular speech.

The first amendment was created for controversial speech.

That is the whole point of the first amendment.

If the first amendment didn't protect controversial speech then it would be no different then what we have in Marxist Europe.

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The First Amendment is there to protect us from the government trying to limit our speech. It does little or nothing to protect us from other people who take exception to what we say.

The US Constitution said:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Rapier108 said:

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Nick Fuentes is not some random "Political Youtuber".

Don't make him sound like some innocent victim.

Not that it is right, but when someone goes around sounding like a Nazi, he is going to get a bullseye on their back.

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People say the same **** about all right wingers, Trump, Elon, etc. We're all Nazis to these left wing lunatics.

He hadn't committed a crime. He was a completely innocent victim in this scenario.

Yes, but he also says it himself.

After admitting he once kissed a girl in high school, the Groypers in Nick Fuentes' superchat taunted him for being a "fakecel." He got defensive, invoked Hitler, & insisted that he doesn't want a relationship: "All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory." pic.twitter.com/lsM8A5z4eH

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 7, 2022

But even the right wing calls fuentes a Nazi. That's how stupid he is

I'm not a fan of Fuentes, but words are not violence.

I can't go shoot up blm members because I find their rhetoric deplorable.