Avenging Small Pox...

Nasty Indians

Cannot wait to see all the new text books published clarifying this issue.

I thought this was common knowledge?

SwigAg11 said:

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Hasn't this been known forever? I remembering taking the diseases class at A&M and that was mentioned in discussion of the natives revenge for Europeans bringing smallpox.

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This

Bulldog73 said:

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agent-maroon said:

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Native Americans gave syphilis to the Europeans

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I'd say given the dynamics involved, a more correct statement is that the Spaniards took syphilis from the Native Americans.

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So... it's cultural appropriation then? Almost as offensive as straight up racism.

The Colombian Exchange is such great reading. What a time to be alive.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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I thought this was common knowledge?

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Maybe it is, but I hadn't heard this before and apparently neither had the article's author. Maybe the news is that they had hard evidence for the first time instead of speculation and potentially erroneous time sequencing? I honestly don't know.

The hard DNA evidence thing is probably new, but I feel like I've known for a long time that the Spanish and other explorers brought a lot of diseases back with them.

It's actually a little interesting that they could bring back VD and bring in stuff that killed millions of natives in the Americas, but they didn't bring anything back that turned into something like the plague. Weird how it only went one way. I assume that everything deadly killed anyone carrying it on the way back, but it's still a wonder that it didn't spread to others and then the rest of Europe.

I thought this had always been known.

This has been known forever

ShaggySLC said:

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This means the Dutton's get their ranch back in Yellowstone right?

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Whoa, spoiler alert!

titan said:

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We will have the identical problem on a far worse scale when landing on alien worlds. The moon was a bit of a freebie because virtually airless and so little risk. But that won't last when manned landings happen on worlds with atmosphere.

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Actually….

Earth's organisms use chiral molecules, such as amino acids and sugars, in specific forms. For instance, amino acids are almost exclusively left-handed (L-form), while sugars are predominantly right-handed (D-form). Enzymes and proteins are highly stereospecific, meaning they only interact with molecules of the correct chirality.

If alien life uses the opposite chirality (e.g., D-amino acids and L-sugars), their biochemistry would be incompatible with Earth's. Enzymes and other biochemical machinery from one life form would not recognize or effectively process the molecules of the other.

Slother93 said:

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titan said:

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We will have the identical problem on a far worse scale when landing on alien worlds. The moon was a bit of a freebie because virtually airless and so little risk. But that won't last when manned landings happen on worlds with atmosphere.

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Actually….

Earth's organisms use chiral molecules, such as amino acids and sugars, in specific forms. For instance, amino acids are almost exclusively left-handed (L-form), while sugars are predominantly right-handed (D-form). Enzymes and proteins are highly stereospecific, meaning they only interact with molecules of the correct chirality.

If alien life uses the opposite chirality (e.g., D-amino acids and L-sugars), their biochemistry would be incompatible with Earth's. Enzymes and other biochemical machinery from one life form would not recognize or effectively process the molecules of the other.

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Harking back to an earlier (and common thread query) THIS is an example of what makes the board so informative at times. There is nothing quite like the interplay of just completely different posters experiences or knowledge. You learn new stuff all the time! Just when imagine have some kind of broad general grasp of things, along comes a poster and revelation that re-sets all to some "ways to go" picture.

Columbus was about 130,000 years late finding North America… early hominins reached here 130,000 years ago… they probably had syphilis those dirty old people

titan said:

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This informative post by AGinHawaii perhaps it explains it.

Yes, we, of the 80's and 90s heard of it, but education curriculum more indoctrination; today no longer mentions such fundamentals:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3517646/replies/69309151

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American cultural holidays are no longer emphasized or are completely absent, especially Thanksgiving. Columbus Day is gone. My youngest did not learn about Columbus or the Pilgrims - at all. She has learned about the plight of Native Americans though.

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I had to google some of the stuff in his post. Intersectionality? Never heard of that, and I don't think I need to know anything about it.

Slother93 said:

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titan said:

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We will have the identical problem on a far worse scale when landing on alien worlds. The moon was a bit of a freebie because virtually airless and so little risk. But that won't last when manned landings happen on worlds with atmosphere.

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Actually….

Earth's organisms use chiral molecules, such as amino acids and sugars, in specific forms. For instance, amino acids are almost exclusively left-handed (L-form), while sugars are predominantly right-handed (D-form). Enzymes and proteins are highly stereospecific, meaning they only interact with molecules of the correct chirality.

If alien life uses the opposite chirality (e.g., D-amino acids and L-sugars), their biochemistry would be incompatible with Earth's. Enzymes and other biochemical machinery from one life form would not recognize or effectively process the molecules of the other.

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Aww, yeah! This is great news! No condoms necessary baby!

torrid said:

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titan said:

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This informative post by AGinHawaii perhaps it explains it.

Yes, we, of the 80's and 90s heard of it, but education curriculum more indoctrination; today no longer mentions such fundamentals:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3517646/replies/69309151

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American cultural holidays are no longer emphasized or are completely absent, especially Thanksgiving. Columbus Day is gone. My youngest did not learn about Columbus or the Pilgrims - at all. She has learned about the plight of Native Americans though.

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I had to google some of the stuff in his post. Intersectionality? Never heard of that, and I don't think I need to know anything about it.

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You haven't? Its one of the worst things of the Left this side of the gender-bender agenda. Pure unalloyed Marxism derivative, that Frankfurt school nonsense.

Burrus86 said:

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Fleet Marines discover this every time they interact with indigenous people.

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A couple of friends who are Navy veterans started casually talking the other night about getting the dreaded G word like it was no big deal...I just shook my head and walked away.

Gator92 said:

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Avenging Small Pox Large...

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FIXED

This can't be. Columbus is the white devil. All brown and black people are good and pure. This just can't be!

SwigAg11 said:

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Hasn't this been known forever? I remembering taking the diseases class at A&M and that was mentioned in discussion of the natives revenge for Europeans bringing smallpox.

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Yes, a few years ago (1993) there was an attempt to re-write history, by employing some flawed scientific analysis.

(journals.lww.com/stdjournal/citation/1993/03000/the_origin_of_syphilis__clinical_and_epidemiologic.10.aspx)

NoahAg said:

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Hmm this finding seems racist.

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Nice

Is Pocahantas going to claim she has syphilis now so she can prove she really is Native American?