Shamwow guy making a comeback.

They made a big deal not too long ago on scientific websites about this thing repeating ignition.


IGNITION!

Claims like this are frequently made, and never delivered. They can build whatever they want, but they'd best have something pretty convincing to show how they're going to be the first commercially useful fusion energy plant after all this time.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Progress is being made (at a painfully slow rate) we've gotten over the positive energy hump and can now generate power via fusion. Unfortunately at this point the most ever produced was 69 megajoules or just enough to power one small apartment or house for a day

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To my knowledge nobody has ever generated any electric power from a fusion reaction. They have however generated more heat than the energy they put into the system. It's a nice milestone but blasting a single pellet is very different from feeding a constant flow of fuel into a reactor and then extracting that thermal energy and putting it to use.

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At the NIF in Livermore California they use massive lasers to shoot a target and there they have gotten more energy out of the fusion reaction that way a handful of times. Those experiments are for deep research into fusion reactions and not power generation.

The Tokamak being shown here has not been shown yet to be commercially viable as you stated. They are scaling the tokamak up in the ITER project that was supposed to show that this tech is viable in possibly generating power but it's been rife with issues.

I have a hard time believing this company can pull this off

We already have a functioning fusion reactor. No need to build a new one. If you want abundant electricity from it just start designing Starship maximizing launchable collection and delivery systems. I promise they'll be cheaper than the money pit that fusion reactor development has been.

Build Sol's Dyson sphere.

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I'm not a tin foil hat guy for the most part but I do think Fusion is being very intentionally slow rolled into the energy economy so that it doesn't utterly destroy it (and the fortunes of a lot of wealthy powerful people)

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So, you think the people making breakthroughs are going to slow play this so others remain rich, but the ones with a workable fusion reactor do not?

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Progress is being made (at a painfully slow rate) we've gotten over the positive energy hump and can now generate power via fusion. Unfortunately at this point the most ever produced was 69 megajoules or just enough to power one small apartment or house for a day

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To my knowledge nobody has ever generated any electric power from a fusion reaction. They have however generated more heat than the energy they put into the system. It's a nice milestone but blasting a single pellet is very different from feeding a constant flow of fuel into a reactor and then extracting that thermal energy and putting it to use.

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If I remember correctly from the 1971 nuclear energy symposium for high school students at Texas, they talked about being able to produce electricity directly from the fusion reaction.

The first time they initiated a fusion reaction with me there, I was about four feet from the tokamak and I really jumped at the sudden noise. I jumped every time, but that first one was very surprising.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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I'm not a tin foil hat guy for the most part but I do think Fusion is being very intentionally slow rolled into the energy economy so that it doesn't utterly destroy it (and the fortunes of a lot of wealthy powerful people)

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So, you think the people making breakthroughs are going to slow play this so others remain rich, but the ones with a workable fusion reactor do not?

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Hey, they have had a car that runs on WATER since the 1970's!

Gotta get that grift money now!

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EMY92 said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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I'm not a tin foil hat guy for the most part but I do think Fusion is being very intentionally slow rolled into the energy economy so that it doesn't utterly destroy it (and the fortunes of a lot of wealthy powerful people)

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So, you think the people making breakthroughs are going to slow play this so others remain rich, but the ones with a workable fusion reactor do not?

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Hey, they have had a car that runs on WATER since the 1970's!

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and the 50mpg carburetor...don't forget the oil industry covered that one up!

It does have an Elizabeth Holmes- Theranos vibe.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Progress is being made (at a painfully slow rate) we've gotten over the positive energy hump and can now generate power via fusion. Unfortunately at this point the most ever produced was 69 megajoules or just enough to power one small apartment or house for a day

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To my knowledge nobody has ever generated any electric power from a fusion reaction. They have however generated more heat than the energy they put into the system. It's a nice milestone but blasting a single pellet is very different from feeding a constant flow of fuel into a reactor and then extracting that thermal energy and putting it to use.

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If I remember correctly from the 1971 nuclear energy symposium for high school students at Texas, they talked about being able to produce electricity directly from the fusion reaction.

The first time they initiated a fusion reaction with me there, I was about four feet from the tokamak and I really jumped at the sudden noise. I jumped every time, but that first one was very surprising.

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Holy cow! I attended that symposium. Edward Teller's "Project Plowshare - Peaceful Uses of Atomic Explosives" it what got me interested in nuclear.

And.. to my knowledge you're still using fusion to produce heat energy and using that to produce electricity as we do now.

The crappy "beds" in Jester assured I'd never attend there. And yes, I was a year younger, took HS Chemistry as a sophomore.

Youngkin's people aren't dopes but it sounds like they will…not be competitively providing energy to the market anytime soon:

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However, it is notable that, at present, all fusion research and developmental plans are on paper, and, according to experts, it might still take years for this clean and abundant energy source to become a reality.

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US: World’s 1st commercial 400MW nuclear fusion plant to power 150,000 homeshttps://t.co/y0Tbht7RnH

— Interesting Engineering (@IntEngineering) December 19, 2024

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Ehhh. Tony Stark built an ARC reactor years ago.

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Tony Stark built one in a ****ing cave

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With scraps!

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A major milestone is expected in 2026 when SPARC is projected to achieve its first plasma, creating the extreme conditions necessary for fusion.

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That's such a long way from commercial viability.

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Ag87H2O said:

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Ehhh. Tony Stark built an ARC reactor years ago.

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Tony Stark built one in a ****ing cave

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With scraps!

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While being held captive by Middle East terrorists!