Maybe police your cabal of baby killing doctors first.
School shooting in Wisconsin
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Maybe police your cabal of baby killing doctors first.
It's Wisconsin.
Nordic peeps.
Nordic peeps.
Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
Keep moving. Leave the political discussion to the adults.
This is another case of too much internet.
I could point to countless examples of kids being raised by online communities that fill their heads with hate. They don't find belonging in life but they can find it online. And in certain dark spaces it is especially harmful. There are very few (if any) online communities that express more love than hate. And even places like this board aren't exempt from that.
Read up on this girl and you will see that the internet played a major role in her worldview and actions.
I could point to countless examples of kids being raised by online communities that fill their heads with hate. They don't find belonging in life but they can find it online. And in certain dark spaces it is especially harmful. There are very few (if any) online communities that express more love than hate. And even places like this board aren't exempt from that.
Read up on this girl and you will see that the internet played a major role in her worldview and actions.
Being online destroys adolescents unless they're monitored very closely. In fact, a 15 year old shouldn't have a smart phone or access to be online other than for school work. Problem solved.
Survivability Onion:Logos Stick said:Travelag08 said:
Having kids carry a bullet proof backpack? That should not be a solution at all!!! I can't believe that we have even come to that point.
Possible solutions: require better firearm storage, require gun registration (like car registrations), make guns harder to get. This won't end school shootings, but we could at least try to change something!
None of what you suggest will do ***** Backpacks might save a life.
Don't be there
Don't be detected
Don't be targeted
Don't be hit <- speed is here (and above)
Don't be penetrated <- SAPI plates are here
Don't be killed
Sure, if I'm getting shot I want body armor… but anyone who's tried athletic movement with added weight knows it slows you down. In anything other than direct engagement a mildly fit kid who drops their bag and runs is likely better off than one who keeps it on.
Oh, and a solid text book is probably pretty equivalent to most of these plates anyhow… if kids are still carrying physical 300 pagers these days…
Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
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So was the 1st Amendment.
I'm good with the government taking your keyboard away.
Suggested that about 8 years ago on aggies only and was mocked/taunted about how ridiculous it was. I told you so doesn't quite cover it.
The inate selfishness, ultimately muted evil, in all humans is often left out of this discussion. It should be front and center. In the history of humanity there are zero examples of power left unchecked that does not migrate to opression. That is what we humans do, period.
These shootings are terrible. They are evil. Removing citizens means to defend does not make the evil go away. It does create an imbalance that fosters opression. The power structure will expand that opression over time (10 years from now or 100) and there you are staring evil in the face again. To say "the founding fathers did'nt know what 2024 would look like and therfore we should throw out the second amenedment" is short sighted (ironic indeed). They did'nt formulate the idea based on how they thought humanity would advance. They formulated the idea based on what they knew about humans which has not changed, we are capable of very bad things.
The second amendment is designed to limit a power structure from doing very bad things on a massive scale. It also provides an imperfect means of protection from aggression on your life or private propert by your naughty neighbor. Because it is imperfect we also put laws on the books to discourage such behaviour. Exposing yourself to the power structure in hopes that your neigbor will only be able to punch or stab you is not the way.
Keeping guns out of the hands of bad people is a healthy discussion. Believeing you will remove guns from society and fix the problem is naive. Trusting your government has your interest at heart by proposing such measures is a mistake.
These shootings are terrible. They are evil. Removing citizens means to defend does not make the evil go away. It does create an imbalance that fosters opression. The power structure will expand that opression over time (10 years from now or 100) and there you are staring evil in the face again. To say "the founding fathers did'nt know what 2024 would look like and therfore we should throw out the second amenedment" is short sighted (ironic indeed). They did'nt formulate the idea based on how they thought humanity would advance. They formulated the idea based on what they knew about humans which has not changed, we are capable of very bad things.
The second amendment is designed to limit a power structure from doing very bad things on a massive scale. It also provides an imperfect means of protection from aggression on your life or private propert by your naughty neighbor. Because it is imperfect we also put laws on the books to discourage such behaviour. Exposing yourself to the power structure in hopes that your neigbor will only be able to punch or stab you is not the way.
Keeping guns out of the hands of bad people is a healthy discussion. Believeing you will remove guns from society and fix the problem is naive. Trusting your government has your interest at heart by proposing such measures is a mistake.
-- Hdt. 9.122.3Quote:
"Go ahead and do this, but if you do so, be prepared no longer to be rulers but rather subjects. Soft lands breed soft men; wondrous fruits of the earth and valiant warriors do not grow from the same soil."
Gunny456 said:
How come in the 70's we carried rifles and pistols in our pick up's in high school…….. we had no registration…….guns much easier to get then than now…..
And we never had school shootings….
We can pass 1000 more gun laws but we will never legislate our way to morality.
The issue is the hands holding the guns and the people attached to those hands.
Needs another star.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
According to the Daily Mail, mom and dad married and divorced each other three times by 2022.
That's wild.
ETA details:
Mom was married before 2009. Had a daughter whom she has never had custody of.
Mom and Dad marry in 2011( (two years after she is born)
*divorce in 2014
*remarry in 2017
*divorce in 2020
*remarried within months of 2020 divorce
*divorce again in 2021
In the custody hearing at *this* divorce proceeding, the judge warned them to not remarry again.
That's wild.
ETA details:
Mom was married before 2009. Had a daughter whom she has never had custody of.
Mom and Dad marry in 2011( (two years after she is born)
*divorce in 2014
*remarry in 2017
*divorce in 2020
*remarried within months of 2020 divorce
*divorce again in 2021
In the custody hearing at *this* divorce proceeding, the judge warned them to not remarry again.
I am reposting this just to give it another starAgFan1974 said:
The inate selfishness, ultimately muted evil, in all humans is often left out of this discussion. It should be front and center. In the history of humanity there are zero examples of power left unchecked that does not migrate to opression. That is what we humans do, period.
These shootings are terrible. They are evil. Removing citizens means to defend does not make the evil go away. It does create an imbalance that fosters opression. The power structure will expand that opression over time (10 years from now or 100) and there you are staring evil in the face again. To say "the founding fathers did'nt know what 2024 would look like and therfore we should throw out the second amenedment" is short sighted (ironic indeed). They did'nt formulate the idea based on how they thought humanity would advance. They formulated the idea based on what they knew about humans which has not changed, we are capable of very bad things.
The second amendment is designed to limit a power structure from doing very bad things on a massive scale. It also provides an imperfect means of protection from aggression on your life or private propert by your naughty neighbor. Because it is imperfect we also put laws on the books to discourage such behaviour. Exposing yourself to the power structure in hopes that your neigbor will only be able to punch or stab you is not the way.
Keeping guns out of the hands of bad people is a healthy discussion. Believeing you will remove guns from society and fix the problem is naive. Trusting your government has your interest at heart by proposing such measures is a mistake.-- Hdt. 9.122.3Quote:
"Go ahead and do this, but if you do so, be prepared no longer to be rulers but rather subjects. Soft lands breed soft men; wondrous fruits of the earth and valiant warriors do not grow from the same soil."
They would be foolish not to. It only becomes harder to reverse a tyranny once all disarmed. Go for Yugoslavia trial before North Korea every time.Baseball Is Life said:Esteban du Plantier said:BurnetAggie99 said:
If the second amendment was ever abolished or gun confiscation was passed then you likely have the next Civil War
Certainly.
'You're going to die for this cause?'
'Oh, someone is.'
That is the point of no return. Yes, people will fight and die on that hill. You're silly if you think otherwise.
AviatorAg said:
This is another case of too much internet.
I could point to countless examples of kids being raised by online communities that fill their heads with hate. They don't find belonging in life but they can find it online. And in certain dark spaces it is especially harmful. There are very few (if any) online communities that express more love than hate. And even places like this board aren't exempt from that.
Read up on this girl and you will see that the internet played a major role in her worldview and actions.
This is true about most of the ills and idiocy in our society.
I'll always say that if you got rid of social media (podcasts included) you'd get rid of the vast majority of the bad that happens in this country.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Quote:
I'll always say that if you got rid of social media (podcasts included) you'd get rid of the vast majority of the bad that happens in this country.
Do that many people listen to podcasts, I mean, really listen?
Podcasts get linked all the time on TexAgs, and the posters say YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS!
I open the link, and it's boring hosts droning on for two or three hours.
No thanks
Anti-taxxer said:
According to the Daily Mail, mom and dad married and divorced each other three times by 2022.
That's wild.
ETA details:
Mom was married before 2009. Had a daughter whom she has never had custody of.
Mom and Dad marry in 2011( (two years after she is born)
*divorce in 2014
*remarry in 2017
*divorce in 2020
*remarried within months of 2020 divorce
*divorce again in 2021
In the custody hearing at *this* divorce proceeding, the judge warned them to not remarry again.
Sounds like maybe mom is a little unstable and dad kept trying to make it work if they were so on again, off again and Mom has already been married with a kid she never got custody of.
The private Christian school we sent our boys to had an interview process to ensure they weren't accepting people who needed to get away from their previous problems.
I'm certain this family would have never been allowed near the front door.
And before someone says "that's very un-Christian", it's a school, not a church.
I'm certain this family would have never been allowed near the front door.
And before someone says "that's very un-Christian", it's a school, not a church.
I would tend to agree with you. The private school in my hometown just ousted a kid who had attended for years because his parents' social media drama was "creating a distraction".
But…I wonder what…I'm having a hard time putting words to it…I wonder what their belief system is? But I don't think that's accurate.
I wonder if the school is in-line with the church the dad is the preacher of - rainbow flag, alpha letters, etc.
But…I wonder what…I'm having a hard time putting words to it…I wonder what their belief system is? But I don't think that's accurate.
I wonder if the school is in-line with the church the dad is the preacher of - rainbow flag, alpha letters, etc.
CanyonAg77 said:Quote:
I'll always say that if you got rid of social media (podcasts included) you'd get rid of the vast majority of the bad that happens in this country.
Do that many people listen to podcasts, I mean, really listen?
Podcasts get linked all the time on TexAgs, and the posters say YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS!
I open the link, and it's boring hosts droning on for two or three hours.
No thanks
Good point. I'm like you, I tried listening once then realized they were saying things i already knew or agreed with.
Maybe it's more because people see there are others who think like them, and because of that type of connection, that's all they need because that's what they're looking for, to know there's others like them, so they listen.
I'd rather watch the grass grow, but that's just me.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Staff, can we ban the 12 year old?howitzercannon said:schmellba99 said:Your reading comprehension - across the entire spectrum - sucks.howitzercannon said:Burdizzo said:infinity ag said:Swan Song said:
I just realized this girl is a few months younger than my freshman daughter.
Yep.. she is a year younger than my daughter (my youngest child). It is scary how kids are going nuts like this.
16yo daughter has a female friend who for the past year or so has insisted on being called he/him in spite of appearing to like boys. The topic came up again last night, and our daughter is confused because previously butch female friend has flipped to being "hot Cheetos girl". She is kind of done with high maintenance friends who do things to get attention. A life lesson in how to pick friends.
Kids are messed up these days
You are saying your kid is messed up? You admitting you are terrible at being a parent then?
HTMFH.
You said kids are messed up now a days. You have a kid. I just assumed you are admitting you messed up your kid since kids are messed up these days.
This...while they did give us the below warning/disclaimer...they could have never predicted the dishonest, wicked and depraved nature of the modern progressive. Or how progressivism would one day basically become a warped and evil religion, where things like deceit, envy, sexual depravity and spite are cornerstone VIRTUES.titan said:Yes life is very different now. With the 20th and 21st Centuries we learned that government could be far, far more evil and wicked and self-serving than the Founders ever imagined. The need for an armed citizenry confirmed ten times over. They probably would have built in more accountability and punishment safeguards for corrupt officials and a more coherent process than impeachment had they seen those century's totalitarians.CDUB98 said:Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
wow.just.wow
You are a prime example of the public school's indoctrination and you obviously learned nothing about natural rights.
How about "NO?!"Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
Government is much more intrusive today than it was in 1791. There are plenty of fascist paradises for you to move to. Leave us alone.
Democrats are the universal threat to our freedom and prosperity.
Considering the degree the MSM drives the whole shooter hype and 10/15 minutes of fame, that is probably closer to the truth. We don't need to hear constantly about crimes and greivances in distant cities. Dallas police died for an non-sequitur having nothing to do with the city but up in MN in 2016. That's a product of the "nationalization" of the negative. Not saying your idea that social media going away is bad either, but this problem of the press pre-dates 2007 (iphone creation)No Spin Ag said:AviatorAg said:
This is another case of too much internet.
I could point to countless examples of kids being raised by online communities that fill their heads with hate. They don't find belonging in life but they can find it online. And in certain dark spaces it is especially harmful. There are very few (if any) online communities that express more love than hate. And even places like this board aren't exempt from that.
Read up on this girl and you will see that the internet played a major role in her worldview and actions.
This is true about most of the ills and idiocy in our society.
I'll always say that if you got rid ofsocial media (podcasts included)national media you'd get rid of the vast majority of the bad that happens in this country.
Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
So was the first amendment. So we should restrict internet access based on your IQ level and mental health. Society would be much better off, right?
Anti-taxxer said:
According to the Daily Mail, mom and dad married and divorced each other three times by 2022.
That's wild.
ETA details:
Mom was married before 2009. Had a daughter whom she has never had custody of.
Mom and Dad marry in 2011( (two years after she is born)
*divorce in 2014
*remarry in 2017
*divorce in 2020
*remarried within months of 2020 divorce
*divorce again in 2021
In the custody hearing at *this* divorce proceeding, the judge warned them to not remarry again.
Some people suck at personal relationships and it infects every facet of their lives.
I worked with woman who was a horrible, angry, person most days. She had moments of lucidity and kindness, but if you got on her bad side it became personal with her and was damn near impossible to get off her sht list. After learning more about her personal life things started to make sense. She had been divorced and then remarried the same guy, then divorced him again. The second time she got divorced she listed her wedding band for sale on an internal company flea market website. If people tried to wish her a happy birthday she got really angry because she hated her own birthday. Come to find out her birthday was also her second wedding anniversary. She spoiled her kids rotten, and they turned out badly. Son was allegedly a skinhead, and the daughter got all tatted and pierced to bat for the other team. Crazy, crazy, woman. She eventually got fired/forced retirement for yelling at the wrong person.
I truly prayed for her that God would come into her life and help her figure out all her broken relationships because it made her in bearable to be around. I think the more we learn about the Wisconsin shooter's home life the more wee will find some similarities.
Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
Yes, it is different.
In 1791, we had just defeated an oppressive government, using an Ad Hoc army and militia that had better weapons than that government.
Civilians owned cannon, their rifles were better than English muskets, and the precursors of automatic weapons were being developed. All of them were legal for private citizens.
Now we have a government that can be oppressive, and they are better armed, as far as the effectiveness of the weapons.
The civilians hold the edge in number of weapons, thank goodness.
Simple Aside here:
Quote:
Come to find out her birthday was also her second wedding anniversary.
Rule for the Wise. Avoid, if at all possible, having a wedding or major personal ceremony on a holiday or day of significance like one's own birthday. If it later becomes a wash-out or a negative event, that holiday for every year after is thus damaged if not ruined in enjoyment.
An interesting thought exercise is a what-if the Founders had been able to write the Constitution after the publication of The Communist Manifesto. What would they change?El Gallo Blanco said:This...while they did give us the below warning/disclaimer...they could have never predicted the dishonest, wicked and depraved nature of the modern progressive. Or how progressivism would one day basically become a warped and evil religion, where things like deceit, envy, sexual depravity and spite are cornerstone VIRTUES.titan said:Yes life is very different now. With the 20th and 21st Centuries we learned that government could be far, far more evil and wicked and self-serving than the Founders ever imagined. The need for an armed citizenry confirmed ten times over. They probably would have built in more accountability and punishment safeguards for corrupt officials and a more coherent process than impeachment had they seen those century's totalitarians.CDUB98 said:Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
wow.just.wow
You are a prime example of the public school's indoctrination and you obviously learned nothing about natural rights.
Fascinating what-if, and one of the best ones for provoking fresh thought have heard in a while. One could guess some safeguards regarding public education on political matters (such as was) might enter into it, but hard to say.CDUB98 said:An interesting thought exercise is a what-if the Founders had been able to write the Constitution after the publication of The Communist Manifesto. What would they change?El Gallo Blanco said:This...while they did give us the below warning/disclaimer...they could have never predicted the dishonest, wicked and depraved nature of the modern progressive. Or how progressivism would one day basically become a warped and evil religion, where things like deceit, envy, sexual depravity and spite are cornerstone VIRTUES.titan said:Yes life is very different now. With the 20th and 21st Centuries we learned that government could be far, far more evil and wicked and self-serving than the Founders ever imagined. The need for an armed citizenry confirmed ten times over. They probably would have built in more accountability and punishment safeguards for corrupt officials and a more coherent process than impeachment had they seen those century's totalitarians.CDUB98 said:Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
wow.just.wow
You are a prime example of the public school's indoctrination and you obviously learned nothing about natural rights.
Good advice. Dad passed on Christmas Day 2011.
It was hard, but it got easier. Not easy, but easier.
It was hard, but it got easier. Not easy, but easier.
If you could also somehow show them visuals like below, I would like to see what safeguards they would implement to help preserve American culture and traditional morals/values. Hell, I'd just like to see the looks on their faces. I would not even tell them that almost all 2024 liberals support men playing against women in sports and showering/changing with them after...or that we are lopping the breasts off 13 yr old girls of blocking childrens' puberty. You'd have to slow drip it to em over time bc it would be too much BSC sh** to take in at once.CDUB98 said:An interesting thought exercise is a what-if the Founders had been able to write the Constitution after the publication of The Communist Manifesto. What would they change?El Gallo Blanco said:This...while they did give us the below warning/disclaimer...they could have never predicted the dishonest, wicked and depraved nature of the modern progressive. Or how progressivism would one day basically become a warped and evil religion, where things like deceit, envy, sexual depravity and spite are cornerstone VIRTUES.titan said:Yes life is very different now. With the 20th and 21st Centuries we learned that government could be far, far more evil and wicked and self-serving than the Founders ever imagined. The need for an armed citizenry confirmed ten times over. They probably would have built in more accountability and punishment safeguards for corrupt officials and a more coherent process than impeachment had they seen those century's totalitarians.CDUB98 said:Travelag08 said:
Yes and the 2nd amendment was written in 1791, so life is much different now.
And yes, more government might be a good thing in this scenario.
wow.just.wow
You are a prime example of the public school's indoctrination and you obviously learned nothing about natural rights.
Sad to hear. Yes, that's an example. You didn't choose it though, but it does illustrate the poignant point. That woman has that kind of issue (and more).CanyonAg77 said:
Good advice. Dad passed on Christmas Day 2011.
It was hard, but it got easier. Not easy, but easier.
What most had in mind is those who think its cute to be proposed on Valentine's Day or get married on it. But it holds for others.
I think the Founders had a pretty good idea just how evil our Constitution in the hands of an immoral people could be. They had a front row seat to the French Revolution, including Robespierre, the Cult of Reason, the Cult of the Supreme Being, and the guillotine.El Gallo Blanco said:This...while they did give us the below warning/disclaimer...they could have never predicted the dishonest, wicked and depraved nature of the modern progressive. Or how progressivism would one day basically become a warped and evil religion, where things like deceit, envy, sexual depravity and spite are cornerstone VIRTUES.titan said:
Yes life is very different now. With the 20th and 21st Centuries we learned that government could be far, far more evil and wicked and self-serving than the Founders ever imagined. The need for an armed citizenry confirmed ten times over. They probably would have built in more accountability and punishment safeguards for corrupt officials and a more coherent process than impeachment had they seen those century's totalitarians.
titan said:
Simple Aside here:Quote:
Come to find out her birthday was also her second wedding anniversary.
Rule for the Wise. Avoid, if at all possible, having a wedding or major personal ceremony on a holiday or day of significance like one's own birthday. If it later becomes a wash-out or a negative event, that holiday for every year after is thus damaged if not ruined in enjoyment.
I got married on my birthday. Best birthday present ever.
You're sinisterly brilliant, as you simultaneously shifted the burden of an anniversary gift onto your spouse with their obligation to get you a birthday present; BRAVO!!!
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