Jordan Neely's father sues Daniel Penny over subway death | Fox News


And of course, the article uses a picture of Neely from 15 years ago. Why is a mugshot never used?

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A copy of the complaint provided by Donte Mills, Zachary's attorney, alleged Penny negligently assaulted, battered and seriously injured Neely, causing his death.

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I would like to know just how much influence this "father" had on Neely. Was he there to help him with his addictions and mental illness? Did he offer him a place to stay, try to get him off the streets? When was the last time they spoke? I'm willing to bet it was very little seeing has how they don't share the same surname. Can questions like this be asked during a deposition to avoid an actual trial if in fact he was an absent father?

Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

odd he didn't care about his son while he was rotting in the new york city gutters for a decade, terrorizing people in the streets. probably a good person though i'm sure he deserves this money. pic.twitter.com/rPWPAVTUOc

— Mike Solana (@micsolana) December 5, 2024

bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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yup, counter sue them into bolivia and shut that crap down.

sue the doj for bringing bs charges while your at it

TIME: Father of the Year

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If that healthcare CEO wanted sympathy over his death he should have tried harassing people on the subway

— Jeremy Kauffman 🦔🌲🌕 (@jeremykauffman) December 5, 2024

Up and coming race pimp attorney Donte Mills, no less, representing this deadbeat dad

bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

normalhorn said:

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Up and coming race pimp attorney Donte Mills, no less, representing this deadbeat dad

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It would be interesting to see if he owed back child support?

Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Lawyers will kill* to prevent that from happening.

* it's hyperbole people!

Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Most such losers have no money to pay, so they wouldn't care anyway.

What's the payoff here? Does Penny have money? Or, are they going to use this to raise funds ala the other high profile "victims"?

It shouldn't even be a legal option to use civil system as retribution in a self defense case.

If you are cleared of criminal wrongdoing then the other party needs to pound sand.

In Penny's case, Neely's actions were an overwhelming contributor to his own demise.

Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

Leaving your homeless, sickle cell riddened, mentally ill son on the street and now wants money for hi pain and suffering.

Okay.

What a world

Ghetto lottery....

Neely was in foster care until he was 21 after his mother was murdered by a boyfriend at age 14.

Nice to see dad finally show up looking for a ghetto lottery payoff after being nonexistent while his son was alive.

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Most such losers have no money to pay, so they wouldn't care anyway.

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The lawyers would.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Terrible idea. Tons of people with legitimate suits will be discouraged because filing would come with way too much risk.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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We essentially already have "loser pays" in Texas and at the federal level. See Offer of Judgment. It's just that civil defendants rarely choose to invoke it based on risk vs. reward.

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Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

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Sadly a NYC jury will probably award him a crap ton of money. Why I do not understand, but they will.

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CDUB98 said:

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Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

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Sadly a NYC jury will probably award him a crap ton of money. Why I do not understand, but they will.

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I was going to ask what are the chances that the rotten apple tree gets something for his rotten apple, but then you brought me back to reality with the location.

Pretty good.

Would be another crime.

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CDUB98 said:

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Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

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Sadly a NYC jury will probably award him a crap ton of money. Why I do not understand, but they will.

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So his lawyer figured out that Penny has money? Insurance?

Penny should be able to sue that Dad for the negligent manner in which the perp was raised that caused him to become a public nuisance.

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CDUB98 said:

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Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

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Sadly a NYC jury will probably award him a crap ton of money. Why I do not understand, but they will.

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So his lawyer figured out that Penny has money? Insurance?

Penny should be able to sue that Dad for the negligent manner in which the perp was raised that caused him to become a public nuisance.

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Making parents responsible is only enforced when the offender is white and is the culprit of a mass shooting. No other parents are culpable for their children's actions.

Gigem_94 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Most such losers have no money to pay, so they wouldn't care anyway.

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Good luck finding an attorney to take the case. Attorney is skimming 40% off any winnings. Combine with what he sees as a possible notoriety/name bump. He's got time to lose right now and nothing more.

Win/win.

I'm all for loser pays! It would definitely cut down on lots of frivolous claims!

But you have to understand it would also make people never file lot of legitimate claims also!

Taking another hot topic this week: insurance claim denial.

People are going to be less likely to sue UHC if they may potentially owe the medical bills PLUS a couple hundred thousand in attorney's fees!!

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Up and coming race pimp attorney Donte Mills, no less, representing this deadbeat dad

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It would be interesting to see if he owed back child support?

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If?

File suit against the dad for being negligent. His son assaulted people. Penny had to risk his own life to keep his son from assaulting or killing more people. Not to mention all of Penny's legal fees just to defend himself because of his son. What a loser

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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bobbranco said:

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Irresponsible people abusing the legal system. We should do better.

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Make "loser pays" a federal law and abuse will stop.

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Terrible idea. Tons of people with legitimate suits will be discouraged because filing would come with way too much risk.

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Civil AND criminal acquittals should trigger a follow on hearing as to whether the aggressing party was acting reasonably. This should include allow for an airing of grievances to either judge or jury & a determination of whether the justice system was misused & guilty DAs / Claimants could be subjected to penalties corresponding to what they were seeking.

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Civil AND criminal acquittals should trigger a follow on hearing as to whether the aggressing party was acting reasonably. This should include allow for an airing of grievances to either judge or jury & a determination of whether the justice system was misused & guilty DAs / Claimants could be subjected to penalties corresponding to what they were seeking.

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Followed by Feats of Strength!!

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Shooter McGavin said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Didn't give enough of a **** about his son to get him help and take him in, but sure as hell wants to make a buck off his dead son.

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Sadly a NYC jury will probably award him a crap ton of money. Why I do not understand, but they will.

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So his lawyer figured out that Penny has money? Insurance?

Penny should be able to sue that Dad for the negligent manner in which the perp was raised that caused him to become a public nuisance.

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Making parents responsible is only enforced when the offender is white and is the culprit of a mass shooting. No other parents are culpable for their children's actions.

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They literally gave him the gun knowing he had violent tendencies and his mom left him at school when they asked her to take him home because he drew pictures of killing other kids with it. I mean she couldn't miss work to take her homicidal kid home, but she never had a problem skipping out to **** her sidepiece.

Yeah, they should be liable and responsible no matter what color they are. At least Neely's dad can say, "I wasn't around until he was dead."

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Civil AND criminal acquittals should trigger a follow on hearing as to whether the aggressing party was acting reasonably. This should include allow for an airing of grievances to either judge or jury & a determination of whether the justice system was misused & guilty DAs / Claimants could be subjected to penalties corresponding to what they were seeking.

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Followed by Feats of Strength!!

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Absolutely!

But seriously - all of the political bs that the jury gets shielded for like campaigning on asymmetric prosecution or absentee father status should be fair game when assessing whether the motives to bring the case were reasonable or not.

A case can fail to meet the threshold of conviction without being ill conceived, so I agree it shouldn't be an automatic "loser pays" system… but the threat of a jury reverse uno'ing the charges on you would cause folks to second guess the arithmetic of bringing a frivolous charge court.

At Neely's age, how does dear old Dad have standing?

Also, if I were Neely's Dad I'd seize upon the testimony that Neely was still alive when the cops got there and go after the city's much deeper pockets.

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At Neely's age, how does dear old Dad have standing?

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Likely bringing claims on behalf of the Estate!