Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Tom Fox said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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jrdaustin said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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What makes this guy worth voting for?

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You don't like him for one!

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Please explain what I don't like about him?

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Playing dumb about a nominee who has been know for weeks is not a good look.

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Don't change directions. What is it about him that you think I don't like? Support your claim or just admit that you made a bull**** statement.

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I've seen your posting or should I say trolling for a while now and its not really worth discussing. If I made a mistake prove me wrong. Tell me how much you love Pete and conservative values. The only bull**** is your stick of acting ignorant.

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I don't love or hate the guy. Hence my question, why should they vote for him? That's not a partisan question.

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Yes it is.

Did you have issues with Austin? He was confirmed 93-2.
What about Pete Buttigieg, who's primary qualification was that he was gay and a mayor of a mid sized town? He was confirmed 86-13.
What about Anthony Blinken, the architect of the Hunter laptop letter that has been proven to be a political misinformation scheme? He was confirmed 78-22.
What about Mayorkas, who has picked and chosen what laws to enforce, thereby violating his oath of office? He was confirmed 56-43.
Let's not forget Merrick Garland, the most openly political AG in history who ushered in lawfare on the opposition. He was confirmed 70-30.

NONE of these people were denied consent. So it seems to me that the only time we have calls for denial of consent is when Republicans are being considered. So who are the partisans, again?

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So the Senate, despite being an equal branch of government to the executive, should roll over for any president's nominees, and thus abrogate their constitutional role in the nomination process?

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Yes, the Republicans should give Trump his first choices and if they do not work out that is on Trump. Exactly as was done for Biden.

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Why should they give him anything they want?

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As I said above. He's the leader of their party and it's what their constituents voted for. Every GOP senator comes from a state that elected Trump.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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What makes this guy worth voting for?

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You don't like him for one!

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Please explain what I don't like about him?

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Passive/aggression always looks so good coming from you.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Tom Fox said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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jrdaustin said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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What makes this guy worth voting for?

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You don't like him for one!

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Please explain what I don't like about him?

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Playing dumb about a nominee who has been know for weeks is not a good look.

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Don't change directions. What is it about him that you think I don't like? Support your claim or just admit that you made a bull**** statement.

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I've seen your posting or should I say trolling for a while now and its not really worth discussing. If I made a mistake prove me wrong. Tell me how much you love Pete and conservative values. The only bull**** is your stick of acting ignorant.

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I don't love or hate the guy. Hence my question, why should they vote for him? That's not a partisan question.

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Yes it is.

Did you have issues with Austin? He was confirmed 93-2.
What about Pete Buttigieg, who's primary qualification was that he was gay and a mayor of a mid sized town? He was confirmed 86-13.
What about Anthony Blinken, the architect of the Hunter laptop letter that has been proven to be a political misinformation scheme? He was confirmed 78-22.
What about Mayorkas, who has picked and chosen what laws to enforce, thereby violating his oath of office? He was confirmed 56-43.
Let's not forget Merrick Garland, the most openly political AG in history who ushered in lawfare on the opposition. He was confirmed 70-30.

NONE of these people were denied consent. So it seems to me that the only time we have calls for denial of consent is when Republicans are being considered. So who are the partisans, again?

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So the Senate, despite being an equal branch of government to the executive, should roll over for any president's nominees, and thus abrogate their constitutional role in the nomination process?

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Yes, the Republicans should give Trump his first choices and if they do not work out that is on Trump. Exactly as was done for Biden.

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Why should they give him anything they want?

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Asked and answered.

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So surely you have evidence to back up your assertion that the allegations against Hegseth are "made up sh/t", and that the Senators in question only have stopping Trump as their goal?

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You would think after the media lies and lies and lies and trots out the same playbook repeatedly that some of you would stop falling for it. I get that you want traditional Washington insiders to continue running the country, but that is not what most voters voted for.

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The allegations of Hegseth being an unruly drunk don't come from "the media". They come from a report to the management of the organization he was president of for 3 years.

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I believe Kelly has addressed this one as well. The "report" came to light recently in a New Yorker article authored by Jane Mayer that reads more as a standard hit job than it does a comprehensive view of Hegseth's past.

At the very least, the "report" is disputed by other members of the organization, who said the originators were former employees that had an axe to grind with Hegseth and it was personal. They vehemenently denied the strip club accusations.

That said, by all accounts, Hegseth is no saint. That said, he's 44 years old today, and was in his early to mid 30s when these 'events' are alleged. He'll have some explaining to do, but this looks much more like Kavanaugh smear than it does anything with true legs.

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No matter how hard or when, I would have Elon bankroll the opponent and Trump campaign against them actively even after he is out of office.

This bs has to stop.

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Elon is probably not that stupid with his money.

And by "bs" you mean the Senate performing its constitutional role in the nomination process?

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No big deal, the Senate didn't choose to fulfill their constitutional role in protecting our borders from illegal aliens and a corrupt administration.

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It is kind of funny how this is the hill some posters want to die on. Even Trump seems to be wavering.

No one knew or cared who this guy was a month ago. Now he is the only hope for the DOD.

Give me DeSantis. He is out of office in 2 years regardless and it'll be a waste to have him sit on the sidelines from 26-28.

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No you misunderstand the situation. Now, many folks are coming out of the woodwork to paint this guy as every bad thing in the world, when last week he was respected and well liked by the majority of this country. The MSM and the bias, uninformed folks like you jump on board the support the effort.

DeSantis would also be great, but he will still be around next cycle. The other possible candidates who might be acceptable or good have no bearing on the value of this nominee. If you focus on the mission rather than your emotion and dislike of him, he will look much better.

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Honestly, I'd rather have DeSantis at FBI or DOJ.

From the New Yorker article. Totally unbiased as per this paragraph...

Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut and a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, described the report of Hegseth's drinking as alarming and disqualifying. In a phone interview, Blumenthal, who currently leads the Senate committee that will review Hegseth's nomination, told me, "Much as we might be sympathetic to people with continuing alcohol problems, they shouldn't be at the top of our national-security structure." Blumenthal went on, "It's dangerous. The Secretary of Defense is involved in every issue of national security. He's involved in the use of nuclear weapons. He's the one who approves sending troops into combat. He approves drone strikes that may involve civilian casualties. Literally life-and-death issues are in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, and entrusting these kinds of issues to someone who might be incapacitated for any reason is a risk we cannot take."

I bolded the above to point out the sheer lunany of Blumenthal's argument. This, the same guy that was silent when Lloyd Austin was incapacitated for over a week without telling anyone - INCLUDING THE WHITE HOUSE - that he was having surgery.

The New Yorker article is a hit piece. Nothing more.

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From the New Yorker article. Totally unbiased as per this paragraph...

Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut and a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, described the report of Hegseth's drinking as alarming and disqualifying. In a phone interview, Blumenthal, who currently leads the Senate committee that will review Hegseth's nomination, told me, "Much as we might be sympathetic to people with continuing alcohol problems, they shouldn't be at the top of our national-security structure." Blumenthal went on, "It's dangerous. The Secretary of Defense is involved in every issue of national security. He's involved in the use of nuclear weapons. He's the one who approves sending troops into combat. He approves drone strikes that may involve civilian casualties. Literally life-and-death issues are in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, and entrusting these kinds of issues to someone who might be incapacitated for any reason is a risk we cannot take."

I bolded the above to point out the sheer lunany of Blumenthal's argument. This, the same guy that was silent when Lloyd Austin was incapacitated for over a week without telling anyone - INCLUDING THE WHITE HOUSE - that he was having surgery.

The New Yorker article is a hit piece. Nothing more.I

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I never heard anything come out of Blum's mouth that made any sense. He is and has been a political hack from day one.

Everyone should please remember, if you see the average democrat political office holder's lips moving, he/she is lying. It has been that way for years.

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It is kind of funny how this is the hill some posters want to die on. Even Trump seems to be wavering.

No one knew or cared who this guy was a month ago. Now he is the only hope for the DOD.

Give me DeSantis. He is out of office in 2 years regardless and it'll be a waste to have him sit on the sidelines from 26-28.

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No you misunderstand the situation. Now, many folks are coming out of the woodwork to paint this guy as every bad thing in the world, when last week he was respected and well liked by the majority of this country. The MSM and the bias, uninformed folks like you jump on board the support the effort.

DeSantis would also be great, but he will still be around next cycle. The other possible candidates who might be acceptable or good have no bearing on the value of this nominee. If you focus on the mission rather than your emotion and dislike of him, he will look much better.

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Honestly, I'd rather have DeSantis at FBI or DOJ.

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I don't really disagree, but Trump had others in mind and that is good enough for me.

This morning, Halperin was sure Hegseth would be out by tonight. He has had to retract just now.

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It is kind of funny how this is the hill some posters want to die on. Even Trump seems to be wavering.

No one knew or cared who this guy was a month ago. Now he is the only hope for the DOD.

Give me DeSantis. He is out of office in 2 years regardless and it'll be a waste to have him sit on the sidelines from 26-28.

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No you misunderstand the situation. Now, many folks are coming out of the woodwork to paint this guy as every bad thing in the world, when last week he was respected and well liked by the majority of this country. The MSM and the bias, uninformed folks like you jump on board the support the effort.

DeSantis would also be great, but he will still be around next cycle. The other possible candidates who might be acceptable or good have no bearing on the value of this nominee. If you focus on the mission rather than your emotion and dislike of him, he will look much better.

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Honestly, I'd rather have DeSantis at FBI or DOJ.

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The problem here is that nobody gives a F who you want. Who Trump wants is all that matters.

If the republicans roll over and give the MSM and D's the power to control this or any other nominee….. nothing will be accomplished going forward.

Stand strong or prepare to lose every close important issue

Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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If the republicans roll over and give the MSM and D's the power to control

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What in the last 25 years or so would give you the idea that the republicans would do anything other than roll over. The only power they are concerned with is their own personal power.

HTownAg98 said:

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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What's the problem with that? We know how libs feel about it. Since she seems to be in the middle of it, I think she has a right.

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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LOL. Hardly. Did you see her long interview on Fox and Friends this morning?

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HTownAg98 said:

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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LOL. Hardly. Did you see her long interview on Fox and Friends this morning?

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If it's not eithe on MSNBC or the weekly lib news letter, he doesn't see it.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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LOL. Hardly. Did you see her long interview on Fox and Friends this morning?

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She can do all the interviews she wants, especially since she had been thrust into this by what she'd previously said about her son. Personally calling senators on behalf of her son is a bit much.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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LOL. Hardly. Did you see her long interview on Fox and Friends this morning?

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She can do all the interviews she wants, especially since she had been thrust into this by what she'd previously said about her son. Personally calling senators on behalf of her son is a bit much.

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Never had a divorce in your family, I see. Congrats.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Stressboy said:

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What makes this guy worth voting for?

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You don't like him for one!

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Please explain what I don't like about him?

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Passive/aggression always looks so good coming from you.

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I was told I hate him. What exactly do I hate?

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HTownAg98 said:

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Pete Hegseth told RSC members his mom has been making calls to senators on his behalf, per source.

— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) December 4, 2024

So Pete's mom is a helicopter mom.

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LOL. Hardly. Did you see her long interview on Fox and Friends this morning?

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She can do all the interviews she wants, especially since she had been thrust into this by what she'd previously said about her son. Personally calling senators on behalf of her son is a bit much.

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Never had a divorce in your family, I see. Congrats.

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I don't know what that has to do with anything, but if I was married and dipping my pen into every inkwell that spread their legs for me, and being a general sex pest, I'm pretty sure my mom wouldn't be standing up for my character. Maybe my family is just different.

Look, Hegseth may turn out to be the best SECDEF our country has every known. But to have his mom involved in calling senators and doing news shows on his behalf is embarrassing. And then for him to publicly say he'd quit drinking alcohol if he gets the job..... It's the damned Secretary of Defense for the U.S. Primary advisor to the President on all things warfare, nuclear, etc. Is his mom going to join him in the senate hearings? Is his AA accountability partner going to be there? I can't believe I'm even typing this.

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Look, Hegseth may turn out to be the best SECDEF our country has every known. But to have his mom involved in calling senators and doing news shows on his behalf is embarrassing. And then for him to publicly say he'd quit drinking alcohol if he gets the job..... It's the damned Secretary of Defense for the U.S. Primary advisor to the President on all things warfare, nuclear, etc. Is his mom going to join him in the senate hearings? Is his AA accountability partner going to be there? I can't believe I'm even typing this.

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Trump is a convicted felon for paying hush money to a porn star. Is his probation officer going to meet with him in the Oval Office? Does this disqualify him from being President?

He wasn't sentenced. Remember? No probation officer. That's a strawman as well. I'm speaking to the nominee for SECDEF that has his mom calling senators to tell them how great a son he really has become since she wrote that letter. She's begging the senate for his job. This is all just comical.

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He wasn't sentenced. Remember? No probation officer. That's a strawman as well. I'm speaking to the nominee for SECDEF that has his mom calling senators to tell them how great a son he really has become since she wrote that letter. She's begging the senate for his job. This is all just comical.

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Trump is the one nominating and any allegations against Hegseth are not any worse than those against Trump. I suspect you wouldn't want Trump confirmed for a cabinet position either. So you think Trump actually gives a crap about these allegations?

oldag941 said:

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Look, Hegseth may turn out to be the best SECDEF our country has every known. But to have his mom involved in calling senators and doing news shows on his behalf is embarrassing. And then for him to publicly say he'd quit drinking alcohol if he gets the job..... It's the damned Secretary of Defense for the U.S. Primary advisor to the President on all things warfare, nuclear, etc. Is his mom going to join him in the senate hearings? Is his AA accountability partner going to be there? I can't believe I'm even typing this.

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I can't believe you are typing it either. Spare us this nonsense.

Who isn't embarrassed that the 6th in order of succession to the President of the US is having their mom call senators and advocate for him to get the job? Because he's a "changed man" (her quote)? And promising he'll "stop drinking" (his quote)? Trump can do better. And should.

Personally, Trump obviously doesn't. On behalf of the U.S., I believe he should give a crap. I guess we'll see over the next couple of days where he falls on this one.

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oldag941 said:

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Look, Hegseth may turn out to be the best SECDEF our country has every known. But to have his mom involved in calling senators and doing news shows on his behalf is embarrassing. And then for him to publicly say he'd quit drinking alcohol if he gets the job..... It's the damned Secretary of Defense for the U.S. Primary advisor to the President on all things warfare, nuclear, etc. Is his mom going to join him in the senate hearings? Is his AA accountability partner going to be there? I can't believe I'm even typing this.

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I can't believe you are typing it either. Spare us this nonsense.

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Hopefully the Rinos will start dying off soon or just switch parties.

RINOs galore!

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Look, Hegseth may turn out to be the best SECDEF our country has every known. But to have his mom involved in calling senators and doing news shows on his behalf is embarrassing. And then for him to publicly say he'd quit drinking alcohol if he gets the job..... It's the damned Secretary of Defense for the U.S. Primary advisor to the President on all things warfare, nuclear, etc. Is his mom going to join him in the senate hearings? Is his AA accountability partner going to be there? I can't believe I'm even typing this.

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Trump is a convicted felon for paying hush money to a porn star. Is his probation officer going to meet with him in the Oval Office? Does this disqualify him from being President?

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Good lord

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Who isn't embarrassed that the 6th in order of succession to the President of the US is having their mom call senators and advocate for him to get the job? Because he's a "changed man" (her quote)? And promising he'll "stop drinking" (his quote)? Trump can do better. And should.

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Our sitting president is in the process of wiping away crimes committed against us by his son and others and this is what embarrasses you? Get a grip.

It all does.

Our current SOD flat out disappeared for weeks and didn't tell anyone, but Pete is a bad fit?

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RINOs galore!

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They are what is wrong with this party, and a major disappointment. Their concern is becoming tiresome.