Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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They have the power to reject every nominee for all 4 years. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so.

The same morons voted for Lloyd Austin, who was obviously going to be a complete disaster

Tom Fox said:

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As soon as Hegseth is removed from consideration they'll turn their attention to getting Kash Patel withdrawn as the FBI director nominee through some personal histiry anllegations and Rinos will go along with that too.

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Hegseth started taking significant heat from Day 1 as a very questionable pick.

The opponent is able to multi-task. I guarantee you their attention is simultaneously focusing on ALL the picks. And the weakest in the herd are getting singled out. Hegseth was one of the weakest from the beginning. Even best case, his background suggests someone who in their personal life is drama-laden and undisciplined.

Republicans have the presidency and both sides of congress and they are going to mess it up. Trump won even with all the headwinds. It's a miracle honestly but should make everyone realize the American people want him to run things the way he wants. For better or worse. Every republican in congress should get onboard.

And yet those people have been some of the best leaders that I have had. Their personal life had zero impact on their job performance.

My two worst leaders had completely buttoned down personal lives. Well at least from the outside looking in.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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The senate has to have the power to preclude a felon, serial killer, or Al Capone from being confirmed to an office if nominated by a misguided president.

They should not vote against someone who they just suspect is not up to the job. Let the President have his choices for his staff and live with the result. If the nominees are that bed, they will be fired very quickly.

flyrancher said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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The senate has to have the power to preclude a felon, serial killer, or Al Capone from being confirmed to an office if nominated by a misguided president.

They should not vote against someone who they just suspect is not up to the job. Let the President have his choices for his staff and live with the result. If the nominees are that bed, they will be fired very quickly.

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Blue star! The perfect summation of their role.

flyrancher said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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The senate has to have the power to preclude a felon, serial killer, or Al Capone from being confirmed to an office if nominated by a misguided president.

They should not vote against someone who they just suspect is not up to the job. Let the President have his choices for his staff and live with the result. If the nominees are that bed, they will be fired very quickly.

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Completely agree!

and these bungholes on the right voted for people like Buttgig, Austin, and Myorkas

here is Buttgig's vote:

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1171/vote_117_1_00011.htm

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Graham? Color me shocked that war hawk doesn't want a disruptive person into that position.

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If Graham wants a war wouldn't he want to rid the military of Biden's stench and bring it back to being all it can be?

Countries with weak, woke militaries don't have war hawks.

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Weak militaries embolden the enemies of the USA, which equals a higher likelihood of war. These people are not hawkish because they are bloodthirsty, they are hawkish because funding the war machine makes them rich.

Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

If you rid the military leadership of adulterers, you'd lose half of them.

If you rid the senate if adulterers, you wouldn't have enough people left to play a basketball game.

I don't like either of those points, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm more worried about having a military extremely efficient at killing people and breaking stuff.

oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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This is something the Trump team themselves only know and will probably impact how shaky of a ground he is actually on. Whether Hegseth was honest and forthright to Trump's team or whether this stuff truly surprised them.

Nobody generally likes being surprised.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

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You are really good at terrible takes and assumptions. Congrats.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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and Merrick Garland is still destroying lives. There is no excuse for this. The senate does not nominate for these positions.

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Votes by these Senators for Merrick Garland:

• Collins - Yes
• Graham - Yes
• McConnell - Yes
• Murkowski - Yes
• Thune - Yes

Bunch of RINO's

They all need to be primaried

flyrancher said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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The senate has to have the power to preclude a felon, serial killer, or Al Capone from being confirmed to an office if nominated by a misguided president.

They should not vote against someone who they just suspect is not up to the job. Let the President have his choices for his staff and live with the result. If the nominees are that bed, they will be fired very quickly.

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How did you come to this conclusion?

The President doesn't just get his choice. The Senate is also responsible for the well-being of this country.

sam callahan said:

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If you rid the military leadership of adulterers, you'd lose half of them.

If you rid the senate if adulterers, you wouldn't have enough people left to play a basketball game.

I don't like either of those points, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm more worried about having a military extremely efficient at killing people and breaking stuff.

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They haven't been killing people and breaking stuff all this time? And how does removing people that can kill and break stuff, but that don't fit someone's personal ideology, make our military better?

if he wanted to be accurate, he would have said:

The senate has to have the power to preclude anyone they want for any reason


whether they should or not is a matter of opinion

sam callahan said:

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If you rid the military leadership of adulterers, you'd lose half of them.

If you rid the senate if adulterers, you wouldn't have enough people left to play a basketball game.

I don't like either of those points, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm more worried about having a military extremely efficient at killing people and breaking stuff.

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It is the sexual assault/harassment stuff that is drawing the questions..not just adultery.

I'd like to think half of our present military leadership doesn't have a sexual assault accusation with an undisclosed financial settlement on their resume.

This guy DOES so I don't see any reason that should not give folks some pause to further question and evaluate this guy's personal past.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

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Sounds like an accurate description of many past/present senators. And has zero impact on his ability to deliver on the President's agenda.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

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You mean people that scream "that's unconstitutional!" at whatever they hate would not care about the same constitution when it comes to something they want to do?

They have been distracted by DEI and politics. The leaders are great at political maneuvers and not military ones.

See declining recruitment and dropping performance standards.

Throw in the cash grabs and buying influence and no…killing people and breaking stuff has not be the focus.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

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You are really good at terrible takes and assumptions. Congrats.

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Sticks and stones!

No Spin Ag said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

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You mean people that scream "that's unconstitutional!" at whatever they hate would not care about the same constitution when it comes to something they want to do?

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I personally disagree with folks on both sides of the political fence who would want to significantly bend the rules to get their way.

sam callahan said:

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They have been distracted by DEI and politics. The leaders are great at political maneuvers and not military ones.

See declining recruitment and dropping performance standards.

Throw in the cash grabs and buying influence and no…killing people and breaking stuff has not be the focus.

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So then would you be okay with transgenders (not wanting or needing any medical procedures) and women in he military in combat so long as they meet the standards that allow them to continue to be effective in the roles they've been in for years now?

Pumpkinhead said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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Apparently you disagree with the "Checks and Balances" concept between separate branches of government that the framers of the Constitution felt was important.

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You mean people that scream "that's unconstitutional!" at whatever they hate would not care about the same constitution when it comes to something they want to do?

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I personally disagree with folks on both sides of the political fence who would want to significantly bend the rules to get their way.

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Respect.

flyrancher said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

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Sounds like an accurate description of many past/present senators. And has zero impact on his ability to deliver on the President's agenda.

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How do you know this? Have you personally met with Hegseth and thoroughly vetted his background? Are you privy to whether he has been completely honest and forthright with the Trump team and was adequately vetted by them beforehand? Also, are you privy to what other legit choices Trump has to consider if he decides to dump Hegseth, to compare against?

I really don't see what the big deal is here. Hegseth is just a guy to me. Who seems to have some red flags and is taking some heat. Either he'll survive or he won't, if not then Trump will pick another guy.

Some posters here for some reason seem like its Hegseth of bust, when its not.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

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So, if true, big if, glad we're keeping a drunken philanderer out of D.C.. I don't know how Washington would ever function if we had those there, pheww! Might be refreshing to have a male candidate that likes to chase skirts as opposed to wear them.

the news reporting that DeSantis would be a backup choice if Hegseth doesn't make it

this would be AMAZING and a much better pick

why didn't Trump just pick Bondi and DeSantis THE FIRST TIME considering they are less scandal plagued and actually better qualified?!?!

hope this is an accurate report, DeSantis would be so great as SECDEF!

having the Trumps in DC is enough skirt chasing males to last a lifetime.



how about just focusing on QUALIFIED MAGA candidates?!

Pumpkinhead said:

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flyrancher said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

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Sounds like an accurate description of many past/present senators. And has zero impact on his ability to deliver on the President's agenda.

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How do you know this? Have you personally met with Hegseth and thoroughly vetted his background? Are you privy to whether he has been completely honest and forthright with the Trump team and was adequately vetted by them beforehand? Also, are you privy to what other legit choices Trump has to consider if he decides to dump Hegseth, to compare against?

I really don't see what the big deal is here. Hegseth is just a guy to me. Who seems to have some red flags and is taking some heat. Either he'll survive or he won't, if not then Trump will pick another guy.

Some posters here for some reason seem like its Hegseth of bust, when its not.

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No, were just tired of your ****ing circus, and as others have said, short of murder, this is Trump's decision and the country just gave him a mandate to make these mistakes if he chooses.

And the New Yorker? Really?

LMCane said:

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having the Trumps in DC is enough skirt chasing males to last a lifetime.



how about just focusing on QUALIFIED MAGA candidates?!

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And skirt chasing does what? Very few of these senators could pass their own purity test and voted for much worse candidate when they had a D by their name. Don't be a hypocrite.

Pumpkinhead said:

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flyrancher said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Logos Stick said:

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oldag941 said:

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The fact that Hegseth did not tell Trump or the transition team about a number of these "incidents" that are coming to light should call into question both his judgement and honesty. Not to mention honesty is a critical part of loyalty, which has been referenced as his strongest asset. If Trump can't trust him, why should this go forward?

Hegseth has caused a huge issue for Trump that was not necessary.

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Which incidents?

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1) in 2017, while in the midst of divorcing wife #2 that he had 3 kids with, and having had another baby just 2 months earlier with his mistress whom would eventually become wife #3, he attended a conference and went to a bar and....this is best case as admitted by him...there was alcohol and then a sexual encounter with a woman he met at the bar.

She however accused him of sexual assault, he says was consensual, he paid her an undisclosed sum of money a few years later with an NDA.

Then there is now this floating around:

2) New revelations after The New Yorker reported he was forced out of veterans' advocacy groups over allegations of mismanagement and personal misconduct, with the magazine describing a whistleblower report from former employees who claimed he was intoxicated at work events and pursued female staff. The magazine did not name the employees behind the complaints, and CNN has not independently reviewed the report. (A Hegseth adviser said the reports were "outlandish claims" from a disgruntled former associate).

Basically, there are questions whether he has adequate personal discipline controlling his alcohol consumption and keeping his fly zipped. Or would he spend an inordinate amount of time as DoD SEC with lips on a bottle and chasing the female staffers. Worse case, being a sexual harassment lawsuit liability waiting to happen.

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Sounds like an accurate description of many past/present senators. And has zero impact on his ability to deliver on the President's agenda.

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How do you know this? Have you personally met with Hegseth and thoroughly vetted his background? Are you privy to whether he has been completely honest and forthright with the Trump team and was adequately vetted by them beforehand? Also, are you privy to what other legit choices Trump has to consider if he decides to dump Hegseth, to compare against?

I really don't see what the big deal is here. Hegseth is just a guy to me. Who seems to have some red flags and is taking some heat. Either he'll survive or he won't, if not then Trump will pick another guy.

Some posters here for some reason seem like its Hegseth of bust, when its not.

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Hegseth's mommy on Fox News said so.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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flyrancher said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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So why do they have the power to reject the nominee?

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The senate has to have the power to preclude a felon, serial killer, or Al Capone from being confirmed to an office if nominated by a misguided president.

They should not vote against someone who they just suspect is not up to the job. Let the President have his choices for his staff and live with the result. If the nominees are that bed, they will be fired very quickly.

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How did you come to this conclusion?

The President doesn't just get his choice. The Senate is also responsible for the well-being of this country.

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You cannot believe the founding fathers of this country established that clause of the Constitution so that a few nitpicking senators could completely derail a president's program for frivolous reasons. They want to wield power over a president in order to perpetuate the deep state bureaucracy. Think about it critically, keeping in mind that the bureaucracy did not exist and was not envisioned when it was written.

Over my 65 years of voting, the Republican Party invariably fails to operate efficiently when in power because of internal power struggles and democrats will do all they can to promote those power struggles.

Maybe they were thinking about Benedict Arnold when they wrote that.