Like these UFOs over the Sea of Galilee. Oh wait… those were interior lights reflected off a window.

Can't unsee that, haha

TxAg82 said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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Okay…what is happening https://t.co/FOQ84dFjXE

— Stephen Diener - UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast™ (@UAPodcast850) November 27, 2024

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Certainly an interesting definition of "clear shot."

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Even more interesting definition of "drone", apparently someone has never seen a beach ball.

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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🍿 UAP over Washington DC - Nov 26, 2024

(#UFOTwitter #UFO #UFOs #UFOSightings #UAPTwitter) pic.twitter.com/9Nc2rkLUpS

— 💭 think tank (@528vibes) November 27, 2024

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Looks like 4 airliners on final to me.

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Sounds just like what a fed would say to coverup the alien encounter.

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Username checks out.

They are just doing a re-enactment of the 1952 sightings.

Don't understand the hyper defensive reactions from folks here. To say that sphere in Manchester is just "trash" is a joke.

I wonder why the hyper defensiveness. Given the near infinitesimal character of the universe, to think we are alone is silly. To think humans know everything about physics and space travel is even sillier.

But keep clutching your pearls and hand waving. Worlds gonna change eventually.

BenFiasco14 said:

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Don't understand the hyper defensive reactions from folks here. To say that sphere in Manchester is just "trash" is a joke.

I wonder why the hyper defensiveness. Given the near infinitesimal character of the universe, to think we are alone is silly. To think humans know everything about physics and space travel is even sillier.

But keep clutching your pearls and hand waving. Worlds gonna change eventually.

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Wake me when you have undeniable proof. Until then, I'll forego the crow.

100% absolutely.

Show me the live shot of that picture and the object hovering and not being blown around by wind.

I 100% think there is something else out there. Something that small and stupid enough to finally be the "gotcha on camera" absolutely not.

Execute Project Bluebeam.

Oh great, more illegal aliens.

Dr. Nefario said:

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Oh great, more illegal aliens.

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Things are really just getting out of this world level of bad

whatthehey78 said:

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BenFiasco14 said:

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Don't understand the hyper defensive reactions from folks here. To say that sphere in Manchester is just "trash" is a joke.

I wonder why the hyper defensiveness. Given the near infinitesimal character of the universe, to think we are alone is silly. To think humans know everything about physics and space travel is even sillier.

But keep clutching your pearls and hand waving. Worlds gonna change eventually.

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Wake me when you have undeniable proof. Until then, I'll forego the crow.

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What's "undeniable proof" to you? If we trotted out a ship or body I'm sure you'd deny it's legit or say a false flag or something

BenFiasco14 said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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BenFiasco14 said:

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Don't understand the hyper defensive reactions from folks here. To say that sphere in Manchester is just "trash" is a joke.

I wonder why the hyper defensiveness. Given the near infinitesimal character of the universe, to think we are alone is silly. To think humans know everything about physics and space travel is even sillier.

But keep clutching your pearls and hand waving. Worlds gonna change eventually.

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Wake me when you have undeniable proof. Until then, I'll forego the crow.

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What's "undeniable proof" to you? If we trotted out a ship or body I'm sure you'd deny it's legit or say a false flag or something

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This is so silly. Science has things called observation, and experimentation, and peer review, and so on. We don't base our knowledge of sharks on "that time someone said they saw something" and we don't base our knowledge of the location and composition of the sun on tribal myths. You're suggesting that humans can't tell the difference between something genuinely otherworldly and a dead animal or ceramic doll?

And this other "argument" that if you don't accept that every light and object you don't recognize is alien then that means you don't believe life exists anywhere else in the universe is laughable. First, as of now there's only one accurate answer about whether there's life elsewhere in the universe and that is "we don't know." Period. The end. Anyone on either side of the debate who tells you they know is outing themselves as someone who doesn't understand what knowledge is. Saying "C'mon, there just has to be.." or "Because I just know it" is not science. We have one data point right now: us. That's it. Any suggestion beyond that, pro or con, is belief, not knowledge.

But even if there is life elsewhere, even technologically advanced life, the odds of it overlapping in our location in our time is indescribably tiny. There could be trillions of advanced civilizations right now in the universe with none of them even within their own observable universe. Or, you could miraculously have two advanced civilizations in the same galaxy but 3 billion years apart.

But no, to the people on the UAP thread not only are we overlapping in time and in space with an alien species but there are "900+ Galactic Federation bases" (seriously, go look) here on earth representing at least 5 alien civilizations. And yet we're called hyper-defensive for not just going along with this.

People don't seem to have any concept of time or space. Do you know that if you randomly placed yourself in space within our own observable universe the chances are greater than 99.999999999% that you would see nothing but pitch blackness with the naked eye? The only reason we associate stars with space is because we're in a galaxy. And in the right conditions you can even see Andromeda with the naked eye millions of light years away. But in universal terms those are extreme anomalies. From any random spot in the universe even the nearest galaxy would be far outside of your vision.

From here on earth on a scale where the sun is a couple inches away then the nearest star is over 120 miles away. So no, every beach ball and airplane and bird **** on a lens is not aliens. And we WILL know when it is. This is reality, not Star Trek. And no actual scientists take any of this nonsense seriously. The only ones who say they do are the Loeb's of the world who are part of the mini-industry profiting off of paranoid delusional and fantasy-overloaded people.

So you don't think people would be in denial if actual "undeniable proof" was presented?

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So you don't think people would be in denial if actual "undeniable proof" was presented?

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I'm sure some would be, of course. Out of fear or because of their own preexisting belief systems that would require them to not accept it. On a spectrum of possible reactions you'd have some people on every part.

But that doesn't represent the sum total or apex of human knowledge. It's like when people say that "people used to think the earth was flat." Well, who are they talking about? I'm sure many simple people with no way of knowing otherwise would have accepted that because it would seem to be their experience. But anyone who spent time on a ship going back thousands of years certainly knew that the earth was a sphere. In fact, anyone who was intelligent and observant would know. The average person back then observed the planets and stars far more than we do, their lives depended on it. And no matter the day or season or time the shadow of the earth on the moon was always round. And Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth incredibly accurately over 2000 years ago. That's all proper science. But does that mean that some farmer in 1256AD in western Russia would know that? Probably not. I mean we humans collectively obviously know how to build cars, but I sure don't.

I have said and will continue to say, I am totally open to any compelling evidence or proof of alien life here. Who wouldn't be? I completely understand the fascination. I share it. But we'll know it when we see it.


And here's the other thing, in the meantime it's not men in black or feds going around saying "nothing to see here" that discredits the alien claims. It's the community itself that is a self-parody. Nothing I could say to minimize the claims could do more damage than the people who go around claiming that they've seen alien spaceships many times in their lives and their brother was abducted and their neighbor is a lizard man and Putin is in an alliance with insect men from Pollux.

There are so many contradictions in these claims that nothing ever holds up and it makes the threshold to be taken seriously even higher. There are countless "stories" from the past century that are up close and personal but now that there are 8 billion cellphones and door cameras and parking lot cameras and security cameras and so on the excuse has become that "none of those take good photos from miles away".

We're told that aliens have been here for thousands of years (and seriously, they have a whole universe to explore and they just hang out here for that long??) but somehow the current US government is the big boogieman that prevents the world from knowing. They miraculously get to every event before anyone else does on the whole planet.

We're told that it's a super secret tiny group of people who know what's going on but simultaneously the claim is that seemingly half the people on the planet are "paid off" or are part of the coverup. Even the major news networks are "paid off" to keep it out of the news. It's all just so ridiculous. And it doesn't help any when the mantra of the whole community is "I want to believe!!"

We're told that aliens are being masterfully hidden from us while at the same time social media claims that people are taking undeniable clear photos and videos of aliens from every car and plane on the planet all day every day. Which is it?

And the obsessive association with nukes is what really makes it hard to take seriously. First, why the hell have they been here for thousands of years if their concern was nukes? But the very idea that aliens are concerned about nuclear weapons cannot be taken seriously. These creatures are supposed to have mastery over time and space and the physical world but they're worried about our 1940s invention????? They're baby pop guns on any scale outside of our own. Does anyone have any idea how much heat and radiation a star makes? And they give away that really all this is about is a power fantasy that some aliens will come take control over us and babysit us like in The Day the Earth Stood Still.

Here's the thing, if you want to believe in anything you can find whatever you want to validate that if you choose to. There are just as many photographs and stories and documentaries of ghosts and religious miracles and fairies and Bigfoot monsters as there are of aliens.